Seneca orientation / test

[MCB]

You guys have so much to learn.....

I'm not saying I know it all, but I am a first year student who's been through the application/acceptance process and have made it through a semester and a half of the program, so I'm open to questions.

How was the orientation this weekend? I was at the airport this weekend for flight training, so I couldn't sneak into the orientation for refreshments and to hear about how amazing the program is like 'gustind' planned on

[Dujan]

I thought the orientation was really informative...They basically went over how the program would be laid out over the 4 years and what's expected. The testing was really easy for me, except for a few of the math questions. I'll just wait and see how I did. What did everyone else think?

[flyordie17]

yeah i thought the exact same as you did. They go by testing and grades though so we'll have to see what happens

[Dujan]

My grades are pretty good so I'm hoping if I screwed up the test a little bit I'll still get in. Don't know where I'll go if I don't...I don't really feel like going to Sault or Confederation.

[Omzmoh]

Same here. I felt like I could have done better on the math test but I also have decent grades. I went to college and started a degree program before I decided to switch. I only finished two semesters but I had a 3.4 GPA so I'm hoping that may sway their decision in my favour, even if I didn't do that well on the tests. I'm wondering if there is a lot more weight put in to the english tests considering there was twice as many english questions as there were math.

I've wanted to do this for a long time and have taken this very seriously so I'm going to be disappointed if I don't get accepted and someone else that's not sure if this what they want does get in because they did better than me on the tests. I guess that's like all programs though.

[C-GOYR]

I was there for the orientation but rescheduled the testing. I thought it was informative and when that one lady asked about the wage scale for new grads....i almost let out a burst of laughter. The presentation had nothing at all about wages but totino was honest in his answer in that it isn't that great in the beginning. Can any of you guys that did the testing remember some of the math questions you couldn't get? What were they asking on the english portion (essay topic)

ps. they really drove the no drug policy home...specifically marihuana.

[flyordie17]

so you went to the orientation, but couldnt write the test, now you want us to help you? gutless. seeing how you claimed you were already going to seneca back in december i dont think you need any help

[MCB]

I've gotta agree with flyordie17 here. that is kinda low.

The testing isn't anything insane, just do the practice ones to prep yourself.

[aspire]

My friend is an admission councillor at Seneca, he was helping out during the orientation. I had a talk with him the night before orientation. He said literacy competency is one of the most important aspect second to math. They over rule the grades over this entrance test.

[flyordie17]

i beleive admissions will be decided tommorow and should be posted on the site. fingers crossed. as far as the testing goes, i thought the essay topic should have been on why you want to be a pilot, or why you want to go to seneca. this would not only help the students who want to be there, but also help the school produce more graduates who know they want to be pilots. thats just my opinion though

[Omzmoh]

WOW...that's pathetic. You sat through the orientation but couldn't stick around for an extra 2 hours to write the tests.....something tells me you probably had this planned. If you went to the orientation you should have suffered like everyone else and written the tests hungry and tired. Now you're asking for our help.....you're lame man.

[C-GOYR]

Don't get your panties in a knot you three. There's no need to be douche bags because Seneca ISN'T gonna administer the same test each and everytime. The reason I asked was to see if anyone was surprised or overwhelmed by any of the questions based on the practice test. The three practice tests aren't anything too difficult (I'd say grade 11 math). Omzmoh, they fed you sugar laden snacks before the testing so why the fcuk are you complaining you were hungry and tired? I love the attitude though...just the kind of people you want in your class.


"something tells you I had this planned"...you should reach around and pull that something out your arse dude.

[Omzmoh]

I just think it's lame that you would even think to come on this thread after the orientation and ask what the essay topic was and if there any math questions we can remember that were difficult. Sugar laden snacks....if you didn't notice...within minutes the only snacks left on the table were nasty carrot/raison muffins...doesn't surprise me considering there were dumba**es like you that showed up, ate the food, and skipped the tests.

Like flyordie said....if you already KNOW that you're going to seneca, why the f*ck would you ask us for help.

"by the way i'm starting seneca in sept." Posted: Sun Feb 15, 2009 8:05 pm

So who's the one with something stuck in their ass?

"I love the attitude though...just the kind of people you want in your class.".......I'm sure people would rather have someone that skips tests to get tips on it before they have to do it.

[flyordie17]

wouldn't know what getting my panties in a knot would feel like, but apparently it was an unhappy experience for you. if the test isnt the same why ask? does it matter how hard they are? if you had any clue youd do your best and it wouldnt matter how hard they are. no one said you have to write them. if your going to be a pilot and your flying an airliner and you have an emergency procedure are you gonna ask your co pilot if the task is hard. just do the test, doesnt matter how hard it is, if you want it bad enough it shouldn't matter. dont knock down others on this website because their stating facts and you dont like it

[C-GOYR]

Perhaps I didn't elaborate what I'd be taking in sept. but it wasn't FPR. I am going to build on my previous diploma and was planning on taking a forensics course (accounting) just in case. I recalled mentioning about the testing for a regular college course somewhere. A career change along with a passion for aviation has led me to this cross road that' i'm currently at. My bad if I didn't make that clear. Damn!! I should have visited the snack table...I love carrot/raisin muffins and they were the costco size ones I bet.

Now fellas, even if someone besides yourselves were to have posted as much questions as they could remember it doesn't mean myself or anyone else should just rely solely that to pass the testing. I asked because like myself others were nervous and understandably so. If it wasn't for a death in my family I would have stayed and done the testing and had one of you asked(I'm sure you wouldn't have) I'd tell you what I remembered but also remind you don't expect the same questions.

I know jobs are hard to come by but for christ sake don't think if you were to spew a few questions you will be cheated out of a job by me or someone else.

Anyway enough of this riff raff. I'm gonna go get me a carrot/raisin muffin.

[flyordie17]

sorry about the loss. you have to understand that seneca is a dream for some pilots, so when it comes to getting accepted its obviously going to be competitive. so given the situation no one will really be open to giving help on what the questions are. if one of us helps you and you get in over them because you got the one question no one else did, it would be like shooting yourself in the foot. thats our reasoning, at least as far as im concerned

[Omzmoh]

I thought that was obvious....but clearly it's not to some people.

[MCB]

What you guys will discover first year is that this really is a program where you need to make friends and work together.

There is way too much to try and tackle homework problems and assignments alone. There will be many times where working together with a close group of friends will be far better than putting yourself in a corner and trying to tackle shit on your own.

However, there is a line between cheating and working together. C-GYOR, my apologies for maybe jumping to conclusions, but that was just my initial reaction when reading your post.

Best of luck on the applications to all of you.

[C-GOYR]

MCB, you too the words right outta my mouth brother with regards to making friends. In my opinion it would be tough for someone to hack this out by themself...maybe it's possible. No need to apologise...I don't think I was clear enough in my prior post.

Fly, I didn't think of it that way but what you said makes perfect sense. I recalled the registration guy at the orientation told me afterwards that there are only roughly 80 spots this year and about 110 applicants (don't know how true it is) so high school grades and grades on the testing is key. I can see why you along with every other students would want any edge you can get.

During the tution part of the orientation it stated $ 43000....does this included the flying portion? I don't think it does because when i was flying at TAL they told me to put aside roughly 60 000 dollars for my ppl and cpl. Did anyone else see this during the presentation?

[MCB]

That does include the flying. God I love government subsidies!

[Omzmoh]

Anyone hear from seneca yet?

[Dujan]

No. I somehow don't think that they were actually accepting anyone today. It didn't sound like it by the way they talked at the orientation, even if the admissions page they gave us did say today would be when the first acceptances would be sent out.

[Lurch]

I'm so glad that the three of you are the future of aviation.

Here is a quick lesson for free

This is a VERY small industry, the four of you will possibly be working closely together for the next four years. You will be helping each other out during your four years of school. You will be giving the questions and answers to each other for all future exams, just look at the help given on this site. You will be running into each other for the rest of your career. Play nice now, you may not like the person, and that's fair, but be civil. They will be working at a company you will someday want to work for, The CP will be asking them what they think of you.

C-GOYR was just asking a simple question, now should you give them a leg up by giving the exact questions you had, NO, but you could have been courteous and given them non-specific help, given them an idea about where they could find the study material, or said nothing at all. Not act like a bunch of spoiled brats and cursing C-GOYR out.

Nice start to your career kids, that may have burnt a few bridges before you have even started.

Lurch

[flyordie17]

yeah i called the college yesterday and they said it wont be until at least friday, possible even monday. dont panic yet lol. the wait is killing me too, but im gonna make time fly by going flying tommorow haha. that will take my mind off it, for an hour at least lol

[Omzmoh]

To be 100% honest, I do agree with you Lurch and maybe a few of us got off on the wrong foot. We probably shouldn't have jumped to conclusions and criticized C-GOYR for asking for our help. I guess I just perceived his post in the wrong manner. I didn't join this forum to be critical of other's posts and opinions or call anyone names, it just seems that until we are offered an opportunity to be potential members in this industry, we are in competition with each other.

That being said, I do understand that if we all happen to be accepted in to the program, this can't be our attitude towards one another.

C-GOYR, not knowing your circumstances and reasons for not writing the tests that day, I probably shouldn't have been quick to say some things I did. You have to understand that to some people this is a high stress time and to voluntarily help someone else with their future testing is only going to hurt our chances of getting accepted.

In the end, I believe the better suited candidates should come out on top and whether that be myself or someone else, in the mean-time, I don't think any of us should be immature and bitter to each other in the process of acceptance.