Joined: Tue Oct 24, 2006 2:59 am
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|Here are the real facts on Jazz
I have been with the company for nearly 3 years now. I love it, mind you I am easy to please.
12 Guarantee days off a month. Usually, unless you are on reserve, or bid inefficient flying, you will get about 15-16 day off a month.
We have a preferential bid system at Jazz where you can bid pairings, days off, etc. You can bid for 1-4 day pairings
Typical month. RJ with a block:
-15 days on.
-10 nights away from home
-9 hours days (can range from 3 hrs to 13hrs)
-3-4 legs (I have seen 6)
On the dash 8 you will work about the same no. of day but you may fly more legs (4-7) and work slightly longer days.
Turnaround times between flight, 25 minutes to 4.5 hours.
Status pay (pay is the same on all a/c types)
This is from the Airline pilot Central, not 100% accurate but close. (actual pay is a bit more)
Yr 1 35.8K/yr
Yr 2 41.8K/yr
Yr 3 $50/hr
Yr 13 $65/hr
Yr 1 $72/hr
Yr 2 $74/hr
Yr 7 $84/hr *most likely what you will make when you upgrade give upgrade times.
Yr 16 $105/hr
Flat pay for 1st two years, then on hourly pay on year 3.
There is profit sharing, ensemble, etc.......not a lot I'd say about 1200 take home in a year total.
Perdiems, about 500-800 and month depending on what type of flying you do.
No bond for training. Like mentioned before, you do pay for half of your uniforn, I think the total came out to 400 bucks (I think, it has been a while) it is payroll deducted. If you leave inside of 2 years, you pay for your uniform.
Full AC flight beneifts for day one, + jumpseat agreements with 60+ airlines including some of the largest in North America . Pension, STD, LTD, Excellent medical, dental benefits, though they are pricey. Company pays for 50%. Lots fo good discounts with various retailers.
Depends, most guys and gals are really good to work with and are generally happy. but there are the exceptions. Keep in mind this airline has been through a merger, CCAA, restructuring in the past 10 years. Despite all this there are still a lot of good top notch people here. The grumpy ones are the minority.
Dealing with ACGHS and agents can be frustrating.
The airline is good, Overall very safe operation,
Our planes, some are old, some are new. For the most part they are well maintained. They are also well equiped. EFIS, FMS, SCDA Appr., ACARS, (for those who don't know, you can print out wx, ATIS send messages to maint. CP. etc.) , Huds on the RJ.
The flying is great, lots of variety. On the Dash, you will be doing NDB (GPS) in to a 3500 foot strip in YGP or YGR one, day. Then shooting an ILS into YUL, YOW, the next. Or flying in the mountains out west if you are lucky. the RJ you will fly all over North America. You will be in YZF, YYC, YVR, LAX, IAH one week, then BOS, LGA, ORD, ATL, YHZ, YQM, YQB the next
Training is excellent
Stability, Career progression, etc
You know what, just like any other airline.
Food for thought, we have not laid off a soul since CCAA and we are hiring 60 pilots this year. Mind this is aviation and that can all change.
Upgrades, 7 in YYZ, 12 to 16 out west. Some people commute for an upgrade.
Also, Cathay, Emirates, Westjet, Air Transat ,Sunwing, all like to and have hired Jazz pilots in the past.
Now those are the facts. I am not sugar coating any of this. Anyone that works at Jazz and cares to correct me, go ahead.
Now on to the bashers
Like I said on another post, most of these people don't work or have never worked at Jazz and thus don't have a F#$% clue what they are talking about. Not sure what their motivation is. Maybe they got turned down or never got called, maybe they are trolling, I don' know. If those are the reasons than maybe they should grow up and get over it.
BTW good post Metro, glad to hear you guys are doing well!!!
I think both companies are good, I have heard nothing but good things about Porter.
Apply to both and go to whoever calls you first.