Sky News reports another helicopter ditching
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Re: Sky News reports another helicopter ditching
from pprune regarding this accident........it's a classy site.... full of bs......kind of like here sometimes"Anyone who is not touched by this tragedy is in the minority. There were, however, a number of posts which would be better in a separate thread"
Quote explained
"We dont care what you think we want the dirty gossip . Condolences are a waste of time ."
be very careful what you believe as there are lots of "moonlighters"
I for one am going to wait for facts to come out....not rumours.....
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Press and Journal
Tests begin on aircraft’s data recorder
Probe into Puma crash ‘could run for months’
By Ross Davidson and Joanna Skailes
Published: 07/04/2009
The investigation into the cause of the North Sea helicopter crash which killed 16 people began yesterday with the examination of the aircraft’s wreckage and cockpit voice and flight data recorder.
The fuselage was recovered from the seabed 15 miles off Peterhead and brought ashore to Aberdeen harbour early yesterday before being transported to the Air Investigation Branch (AAIB) headquarters at Farnborough, Hampshire.
The cockpit voice and flight data recorder was flown there from the crash site on Sunday. They are now being examined to see if they will yield any clues revealing the cause of the accident.
An AAIB spokesman said there was no fixed timescale for the investigation and it could run for several months depending on the amount of evidence available.
He said: “If there are any findings which need to be made public immediately, an interim report will be issued before the publication of the full report.”
The investigation will undoubtedly involve looking at previous crashes involving Super Pumas since their first flights in 1986. It is thought investigators will closely examine the crash of a Super Puma off Norway’s coast 12 years ago, which killed 12 people. An earlier model of the helicopter in last week’s crash, it plunged into the sea on September 8, 1997.
The crash, near Statoil’s Norne oil platform in the Norwegian Sea, was caused by a technical fault and similarly hit the water moments after the warning lights started flashing.
In February last year, a Super Puma crashed off Rio de Janeiro in Brazil, killing five of the 17 people on board. The cause of the accident is still unknown.
The wreckage of the Bond Super Puma helicopter was brought into Aberdeen harbour yesterday morning.
The Bibby Topaz docked at 12.30am, also bringing the last eight bodies of flight 85N to shore. As the 350ft vessel, usually used as a specialist diving boat, tied up alongside Albert Quay, a sombre silence descended on the docks.
The crew started the painstaking task of lifting pieces of the wreckage by crane from ship to dock and then on to waiting Dyce Carriers lorries. Drivers started the long journey to Farnborough just after 4am.
At 5.30am, the bodies of the two pilots and six oil workers were driven away in a hearse and private ambulance under police escort.
Positive identification has not yet taken place.
A police spokesman said: “Confirming the identities of the victims is of the highest priority for Grampian Police and the Crown Office and Procurator Fiscal Service.
“It is not yet possible to confirm when this will be completed. The next of kin are being kept fully informed of any developments.”
Brian Taylor, chief operating officer of KCA Deutag which lost 10 employees in the crash, said: “All at KCA Deutag wish to send our thanks and appreciation to those involved in the successful operation to recover the remaining eight bodies.
“It has been a traumatic five days for all at the company and we are relieved to know that the bodies of each of the 16 men have been recovered.
“We all hope that this will be some small comfort to the next of kin, relations, friends and colleagues of the deceased. They are in our thoughts.”
Tests begin on aircraft’s data recorder
Probe into Puma crash ‘could run for months’
By Ross Davidson and Joanna Skailes
Published: 07/04/2009
The investigation into the cause of the North Sea helicopter crash which killed 16 people began yesterday with the examination of the aircraft’s wreckage and cockpit voice and flight data recorder.
The fuselage was recovered from the seabed 15 miles off Peterhead and brought ashore to Aberdeen harbour early yesterday before being transported to the Air Investigation Branch (AAIB) headquarters at Farnborough, Hampshire.
The cockpit voice and flight data recorder was flown there from the crash site on Sunday. They are now being examined to see if they will yield any clues revealing the cause of the accident.
An AAIB spokesman said there was no fixed timescale for the investigation and it could run for several months depending on the amount of evidence available.
He said: “If there are any findings which need to be made public immediately, an interim report will be issued before the publication of the full report.”
The investigation will undoubtedly involve looking at previous crashes involving Super Pumas since their first flights in 1986. It is thought investigators will closely examine the crash of a Super Puma off Norway’s coast 12 years ago, which killed 12 people. An earlier model of the helicopter in last week’s crash, it plunged into the sea on September 8, 1997.
The crash, near Statoil’s Norne oil platform in the Norwegian Sea, was caused by a technical fault and similarly hit the water moments after the warning lights started flashing.
In February last year, a Super Puma crashed off Rio de Janeiro in Brazil, killing five of the 17 people on board. The cause of the accident is still unknown.
The wreckage of the Bond Super Puma helicopter was brought into Aberdeen harbour yesterday morning.
The Bibby Topaz docked at 12.30am, also bringing the last eight bodies of flight 85N to shore. As the 350ft vessel, usually used as a specialist diving boat, tied up alongside Albert Quay, a sombre silence descended on the docks.
The crew started the painstaking task of lifting pieces of the wreckage by crane from ship to dock and then on to waiting Dyce Carriers lorries. Drivers started the long journey to Farnborough just after 4am.
At 5.30am, the bodies of the two pilots and six oil workers were driven away in a hearse and private ambulance under police escort.
Positive identification has not yet taken place.
A police spokesman said: “Confirming the identities of the victims is of the highest priority for Grampian Police and the Crown Office and Procurator Fiscal Service.
“It is not yet possible to confirm when this will be completed. The next of kin are being kept fully informed of any developments.”
Brian Taylor, chief operating officer of KCA Deutag which lost 10 employees in the crash, said: “All at KCA Deutag wish to send our thanks and appreciation to those involved in the successful operation to recover the remaining eight bodies.
“It has been a traumatic five days for all at the company and we are relieved to know that the bodies of each of the 16 men have been recovered.
“We all hope that this will be some small comfort to the next of kin, relations, friends and colleagues of the deceased. They are in our thoughts.”
Re: Sky News reports another helicopter ditching
Things are not looking well at the moment for the S92 as a Bristow Norway S92 has had to make an emergency low level 15 minute run to a Conoco Phillips rig, the Tor. The helicopter had 19 pax on board and made a safe landing on the Tor.
Aircraft was enroute to Sola from the Ekofisk when it encountered an oil leak situation. No definition at this time about the nature of the leak.
carholme
Aircraft was enroute to Sola from the Ekofisk when it encountered an oil leak situation. No definition at this time about the nature of the leak.
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Re: Sky News reports another helicopter ditching
It seems there are a number of parties at fault in this situation, from Sikorsky to the FAA and JAA... quite a mess.
stl
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Re: Sky News reports another helicopter ditching
Concerning the Bond Super Puma, Skynews has just released the following brief headline:
http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/UK-New ... n_Gear_Box
There can be nothing more physcologically distressing than the departure of a Main Rotor Head. Poor bastards never had a chance.
carholme
http://news.sky.com/skynews/Home/UK-New ... n_Gear_Box
There can be nothing more physcologically distressing than the departure of a Main Rotor Head. Poor bastards never had a chance.
carholme
Re: Sky News reports another helicopter ditching
Here is the AAIB interim report: Gruesome
http://www.aaib.gov.uk/cms_resources/G- ... Report.pdf
carholme
http://www.aaib.gov.uk/cms_resources/G- ... Report.pdf
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Re: Sky News reports another helicopter ditching
Wow.
Not sure what's in the drinking water lately... But this is all weird.
stl
Not sure what's in the drinking water lately... But this is all weird.
stl
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From the Scotsman paper
« Previous « PreviousNext » Next »View GalleryPublished Date: 12 April 2009
By Marc Horne
ALL Super Puma helicopters should be grounded in the wake of the North Sea tragedy, it was claimed last night.
Bob Crow of the RMT has accused employers of playing fast and loose with oil workers' lives by not suspending flights to allow full safety checks to take place.
It comes after the crash which led to the deaths of 16 men was found to have been causADVERTISEMENTed by "catastrophic" gearbox failure.
The British Airline Pilots' Association (Balpa) has also raised concerns that safety is being jeopardised for the sake of commercial pressures.
The investigation found the gearbox had suffered a "major failure", which was not yet fully understood, leading the main rotor blades to break off and hit the helicopter.
The report by the Air Accidents Investigation Branch (AAIB) said the aircraft's manufacturer, Eurocopter, should carry out "additional inspections and enhanced monitoring" on its AS332 L2 models of Super Puma helicopters.
It also recommended that the European Aviation Safety Agency evaluates these checks and, when satisfied, makes them compulsory. Crow said he wanted all similar Super Pumas kept on the tarmac until they got the all-clear.
He said: "Our position is pretty clear: they should be grounded for a full inspection to take place before our members are absolutely satisfied that those Super Pumas are OK to fly.
"We're saying to our members: 'If you don't feel safe about going into those Puma helicopters then you should refuse to work on the grounds of health and safety.'"
Balpa general secretary Jim McAuslan wanted the investigation into the crash to look at wider issues about safety within the industry.
He said:
"Something is giving. The commercial pressures are making safety give a bit."
Chris Allen, health and safety director for Oil & Gas UK, the leading representative body for the UK offshore oil and gas industry, said: "Oil & Gas UK can confirm that helicopter companies operating flights to UK offshore installations today (Saturday] have carried out the additional checks that were required in the alert service bulletin issued by the manufacturer, Eurocopter, last night (Friday].
"The bulletin, which was made mandatory by the European Aviation Safety Agency, requires daily checks to be carried out on the Super Puma L2 and EC 225 to verify the condition of the main gearbox.
"The industry is committed to implementing all the recommendations which have so far been made by the AAIB and any others which emerge from the continuing investigation. The UK leads the world in the safety of offshore helicopter operations and we will do everything within our power to maintain and improve that position in order to protect the safety of our people."
A Scottish Government spokesman said: "It is vital that the cause of the crash is established so lessons can be learned and these types of tragedies can be avoided in future."
The 14 passengers and two crew who died were returning from BP's Miller platform when the helicopter crashed in the sea, 14 miles off the coast of Aberdeenshire.
The bodies of the victims have all been recovered and identified. Eight came from the north-east of Scotland, seven from the rest of the UK, and one from Latvia.
A memorial service for those who died is to be held on Wednesday in Aberdeen.
THE Prince of Wales and Duchess of Cornwall will attend a memorial service for the victims of last week's North Sea helicopter crash, it was confirmed today.
Buckingham Palace said Charles and Camilla will join the hundreds of mourners at Wednesday's service in Aberdeen's Kirk of St Nicholas.
The service has been organised to remember the 16 men who lost their lives when their Super Puma crashed in the sea on Wednesday last week.
The 14 passengers and two crew were returning from BP's Miller platform when the helicopter crashed around 15 miles from Peterhead.
The bodies of the victims have all been recovered and identified.
Half the victims came from the north east of Scotland, seven from the rest of the UK, and one from Latvia.
The wreckage of the helicopter was brought ashore at the weekend and is currently being examined by accident investigators.
« Previous « PreviousNext » Next »View GalleryPublished Date: 12 April 2009
By Marc Horne
ALL Super Puma helicopters should be grounded in the wake of the North Sea tragedy, it was claimed last night.
Bob Crow of the RMT has accused employers of playing fast and loose with oil workers' lives by not suspending flights to allow full safety checks to take place.
It comes after the crash which led to the deaths of 16 men was found to have been causADVERTISEMENTed by "catastrophic" gearbox failure.
The British Airline Pilots' Association (Balpa) has also raised concerns that safety is being jeopardised for the sake of commercial pressures.
The investigation found the gearbox had suffered a "major failure", which was not yet fully understood, leading the main rotor blades to break off and hit the helicopter.
The report by the Air Accidents Investigation Branch (AAIB) said the aircraft's manufacturer, Eurocopter, should carry out "additional inspections and enhanced monitoring" on its AS332 L2 models of Super Puma helicopters.
It also recommended that the European Aviation Safety Agency evaluates these checks and, when satisfied, makes them compulsory. Crow said he wanted all similar Super Pumas kept on the tarmac until they got the all-clear.
He said: "Our position is pretty clear: they should be grounded for a full inspection to take place before our members are absolutely satisfied that those Super Pumas are OK to fly.
"We're saying to our members: 'If you don't feel safe about going into those Puma helicopters then you should refuse to work on the grounds of health and safety.'"
Balpa general secretary Jim McAuslan wanted the investigation into the crash to look at wider issues about safety within the industry.
He said:
"Something is giving. The commercial pressures are making safety give a bit."
Chris Allen, health and safety director for Oil & Gas UK, the leading representative body for the UK offshore oil and gas industry, said: "Oil & Gas UK can confirm that helicopter companies operating flights to UK offshore installations today (Saturday] have carried out the additional checks that were required in the alert service bulletin issued by the manufacturer, Eurocopter, last night (Friday].
"The bulletin, which was made mandatory by the European Aviation Safety Agency, requires daily checks to be carried out on the Super Puma L2 and EC 225 to verify the condition of the main gearbox.
"The industry is committed to implementing all the recommendations which have so far been made by the AAIB and any others which emerge from the continuing investigation. The UK leads the world in the safety of offshore helicopter operations and we will do everything within our power to maintain and improve that position in order to protect the safety of our people."
A Scottish Government spokesman said: "It is vital that the cause of the crash is established so lessons can be learned and these types of tragedies can be avoided in future."
The 14 passengers and two crew who died were returning from BP's Miller platform when the helicopter crashed in the sea, 14 miles off the coast of Aberdeenshire.
The bodies of the victims have all been recovered and identified. Eight came from the north-east of Scotland, seven from the rest of the UK, and one from Latvia.
A memorial service for those who died is to be held on Wednesday in Aberdeen.
THE Prince of Wales and Duchess of Cornwall will attend a memorial service for the victims of last week's North Sea helicopter crash, it was confirmed today.
Buckingham Palace said Charles and Camilla will join the hundreds of mourners at Wednesday's service in Aberdeen's Kirk of St Nicholas.
The service has been organised to remember the 16 men who lost their lives when their Super Puma crashed in the sea on Wednesday last week.
The 14 passengers and two crew were returning from BP's Miller platform when the helicopter crashed around 15 miles from Peterhead.
The bodies of the victims have all been recovered and identified.
Half the victims came from the north east of Scotland, seven from the rest of the UK, and one from Latvia.
The wreckage of the helicopter was brought ashore at the weekend and is currently being examined by accident investigators.
