Flicker Vertigo

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Flicker Vertigo

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Enlighten me, oh wise ones, as to what "everybody knows", and the nonsense Transport had us repeat for years.
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Last I heard about that one was that it has quietly disappeared from the TC curriculum (sp?). The few cases that were attributed to "flicker vertigo" were actually traced back to people suffering from mild epilepsy.

This is all third hand info so if someone has something concrete confirming the above or otherwise I'd like to hear it.
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Post by peeelot »

If you are landing into a setting sun and look through the prop that will cause it.
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Post by Benwa »

:shock:

Welcome to the real world peeeelot.

Ever landed into the setting sun ?
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Ever landed into the setting sun ?
I've landed into the sun (NO, not actually INTO the sun, you know what I mean :lol: ), and a few times at sunset :wink:

Never actaully experienced it, mostly it's just the flicker that's annoying. Last I heard, possibly not true, is that there is no such thing.
The few cases that were attributed to "flicker vertigo" were actually traced back to people suffering from mild epilepsy.
I heard the same.
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Post by 5x5 »

Here's an interesting link that talks about flicker vertigo - and a bunch of other interesting conditions as well.

http://www.vnh.org/FSManual/09/09Percep ... rders.html
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obviously you don't get it every time you land into the sun. I think it's very angle and prop condion specific. I did have a definate flicker effect one time on approach into the sun with a Caravan. The torque was perhaps 300lbs so the prop was in about a corase a setting as possible in flight. There was a very pronounced flicker effect. I didnt' experience any urge to bank with the prop or make pitch movements. I do see how if it had been more severe an illusion might be convincing.
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Post by Benwa »

You will see a flickering effect quite often at night while taxiing... but we're talking VERTIGO here.

By the way, it's a good way to check your tachometer...
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Post by peeelot »

Sorry I was mistakened Flicker Vertigo is as stated Results from the strobe effect caused by looking through a windmilling prop into the sun
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...or watching Japanese cartoons. ;)
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You watch "The Simpsons" waaay too much!
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You know only by watching The Simpsons too much would you get where that comes from... :P
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Yeah but I admit I have too much free time on my hands; besides, I'm trying to cut down.
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