Q about navigation databases

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Q about navigation databases

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Helloooo... I have an evil plan to dominate this forum with dumbass questions tonight. :lol:

Let us imagine I wanted to build an aviation database full of lat/longs for airports, VORs, NDBs, waypoints... You know, all the pertinent stuff for navigation.

Let us further imagine I want to keep it current.

Can anyone imagine where I could find such a creature? Can I just call Jeppesen and say "Hi! I'll take a nav database, please."

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I think you might need to qualify this question with an answer to "WHY?".

You do realize, I assume, that GPSs FMSs RNAVs etc are mostly updateable with new databases.
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It's in the back pages of the CFS
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Why? Well, I have been toying with the idea of making a flight planning system for our aircraft.

No, I'm not sure what I'm getting into just yet. :smt040

I realize it's in the back of the CFS, but I was hoping for a digital copy.

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There is (or was) an electronic copy of the CFS that used to be available 4-5 years ago to certain government departments (dnd, maybe others).

All the chart data in Canada is copyrighted (held by the gov/queen iirc) unlike in the US where it is considered in the public domain. So in the US you can have sites like skyvector.com which publish sectional charts on-line. I've never seen similar for Canada.

You might want to look around at some other flight planners and see where they got their data. Must be some free-ware ones flying around. Or just use one of those free-ware flight planners instead of doing yet another one...
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LinksInAChain wrote:Let us imagine I wanted to build an aviation database full of lat/longs for airports, VORs, NDBs, waypoints... You know, all the pertinent stuff for navigation.

Let us further imagine I want to keep it current.
As far as I know the aerodromes, VORs, NDBs etc, do not tend to move around all that much.

Make your flight planning program with the ability to enter points and save them - that way you can enter them as you need them and avoid a lot of work upfront. Our company has an excellent planner that works this way - have only had to add two new points in the past 3 years.
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sakism wrote:As far as I know the aerodromes, VORs, NDBs etc, do not tend to move around all that much.
LOL - an excellent point!

Can you say where your company got the aerodrome/VOR/NDB data?

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I don't know if it is still available, but there used to be an online database (I think it was called DAFIF). I used it a few times with different programs, I'm sure you can find a copy with enough digging online.
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I don't know where they got the information (it precedes me at the company), but if I was to do it today I would just get them from available charts and pubs (ie. CFS, CAP, and equivalents for other nations).

Start with the ones you tend to use the most and then just enter a few each day - done before you know it. As I mentioned, make the program with the ability to add more when needed and then you don't have to worry about creating an exhaustive list initially.
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Benwa wrote:http://navaid.com/GPX/

There you go.
Fantastic! Thanks! :D
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