for a job to get work experience on medium/large turbine air

afzal · Post by **afzal** » Sun Feb 27, 2005 8:28 am

Hi friends!
I have passed transport canada SPM, Airframe, Powerplant and air Reulations technical exams for M licence. I have over 20 years of experience in India in aircraft maintenance/management. T.C. wants to produce 70% of of aircraft maintenance sample task as listed in appendix B - part 1 before licence is issued.I have done about 60% of them. Plese suugest/guide me that where I apply to get a job to have those experience.I am in greater Montreal area and will prefer in this area.I would accept to work evev for minimum salary.Thank you

Vickers vanguard · Post by **Vickers vanguard** » Sun Feb 27, 2005 12:13 pm

living in the greater montreal area and want to stay there ?
you're not going to find a job in downtown montreal unless you're a striper

look everywhere not only there, the best opportunities for a job with a turbo-prop operator are not in Montreal unless you want to work in the manufacturing industry (OEMs)
Willing to work at minimum salary ?
are you F#@&*ing nut ?

Don't screw yourself

Pat Richard · Post by **Pat Richard** » Sun Feb 27, 2005 12:44 pm

I can understand that you want to get your task's signed off, but like Vick says, why be willing to do it for minimum salary? Show some pride and stand up for yourself!

I mean, where does it go from there? You start accepting minimum wages, then someone else, etc. Do you comprehend where this is going?

Vickers vanguard · Post by **Vickers vanguard** » Sun Feb 27, 2005 1:28 pm

hey Afzal, I don't mean to be rude to you but if you go out there and tell an employer that after 20 years in the industry you are willing to work for minimum wage, the message you'll be sending is simply that you're not worth a tech's salary and need further training ! I wouldn't hire somebody who tells me that !
Just getting a damn licence won't make you a better tech. Let's say you find somebody to give you that min-wage job and you finally get your AME certification, do you really think that same employer will just double your salary the next moorning ?
Wake-up buddy, this is Canada ! the Aviation industry here is already F@#&*cked enough, thanks to some idiots who still consider airplanes as toys and will do anything to put their hands on them.
Even plumbers make more money than we do when we start !

afzal · Post by **afzal** » Mon Feb 28, 2005 8:01 am

afzal wrote:Hi friends!
I have passed transport canada SPM, Airframe, Powerplant and air Reulations technical exams for M licence. I have over 20 years of experience in India in aircraft maintenance/management. T.C. wants to produce 70% of of aircraft maintenance sample task as listed in appendix B - part 1 before licence is issued.I have done about 60% of them. Plese suugest/guide me that where I apply to get a job/apperenticeship to have those experience.

afzal · Post by **afzal** » Mon Feb 28, 2005 8:07 am

Thank you Mr.Vickers vanguard for your comment.But why mentioned for accepting minimum salary that like apprenticeship, I want to work to get those experience to get qualified for M2 licence.

milendimitrovbg · Post by **milendimitrovbg** » Tue Mar 01, 2005 7:09 pm

Dear Afzal
I am deeply sorry about your situation but don’t give up. I was in the same situation when came in Canada. The experience you need could be from maintenance organizations outside Canada. So, if you don’t mind just go somewhere and do your missing tasks.
I am absolutely agree with the other guys that the best way to put yourself in the mud is to accept minimum wage. This is lack of self-respect and soon or late will reflect over your career. Canada is very strange country and you have to play the game according the local rules. Otherwise……
Don’t think that possessing M2 license will give you chance to work in the aviation. I have M2 but was forced to move to work back in Europe because here I am welcome and somebody.
Don’t waste your time. Better go in the automotive business. There are more money and job opportunities than the aviation.
Good Luck.

chubbee · Post by **chubbee** » Wed Mar 02, 2005 7:32 am

What is your background equipmentwise there are operators in northern Quebec that still have some HS 748's flying I think for entry level you will be hard pressed to land something in Montreal. If you can get in with somebody that does rotations in the north that might be your best bet

Vickers vanguard · Post by **Vickers vanguard** » Thu Mar 03, 2005 6:38 pm

northern Quebec ? Ha!ha!ha!.......hope the guy speak french and acts french !

.........and have pretty good contacts too !

Vickers vanguard · Post by **Vickers vanguard** » Thu Mar 03, 2005 6:40 pm

milen ! where do you work now ?

afzal · Post by **afzal** » Fri Mar 04, 2005 7:15 pm

Vickers vanguard
Thank you for your concern.Past few months, I am not working.I was bussy to prepare for T.C. exam which I passed only a 10 days ago.Can you suggest me where I could apply for entry level/AME apprenticeship?I want to complete those task first to get licence.
Thank you

Vickers vanguard · Post by **Vickers vanguard** » Fri Mar 04, 2005 11:27 pm

Afzal ! to be honest with you, you will have avery hard time geeting a job in Montreal, and the reasons are simple :

1- A lot of people will tell you that Montreal is the center of the Aerospace industry in Canada, That's not untrue. however, all these companies are OEMs and not Air operators. At pierre trudeau inter airport, there's only one company I can think about and that will hire apprentices, its name is Excel-tech. They do a lot of turbo-prop work (ATR42/72 $ Dash

, they also do the maintenance on Jets-Go airplanes. They tend to hire a lot of people but you could be laid-off soon after the workload gets lighter. So you see it's not that stable. Still, if you don't speak French you'll have a hard time getting in.
The other big employer in Montreal within the airline industry is of course Air Canada. But As you probably know, AC recentely emerged from Bankrupcy protection and I don't think they'll be hiring anytime soon.
There are other small companies at the International airport, I know a lot of these which are mainly family business and again you'll need good references for that.........and knowing French is a must !!!!

I think you should look everywhere and seriousll consider Ontario.

rhumrunner · Post by **rhumrunner** » Tue Apr 26, 2005 3:31 pm

hi check out innotech-execaire. heck you don,t even have to speak english OR french. and don,t go for low wages geez.......

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