Plane skids off runway in Tuktoyaktuk

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Plane skids off runway in Tuktoyaktuk

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http://www.cbc.ca/canada/north/story/20 ... plane.html




About a dozen passengers on board an Aklak Air flight endured a bumpy landing in Tuktoyaktuk, N.W.T., on Tuesday, when the aircraft went off the local airport runway.

Tuktoyaktuk RCMP Cpl. Calvin Roberts told CBC News the aircraft was landing around 1:20 p.m. MT when it skidded off the runway.

"There was no injuries and just some minor damage to the tail of the plane," Roberts said late Tuesday.

The passengers did not seem shaken up by the incident, Roberts said.

Witnesses reported a big gust of wind hit the plane as it was landing.
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Batter up Strega...
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June 2 weather at tuk, all times local.

Time/ temp/ dewp/ rh/ */ **/ vis-km/ pres/
12:00 4.1 1.6 84 050 17 24.1 102.60 Mainly Clear
13:00 5.2 2.1 80 070 17 24.1 102.67 Clear
14:00 5.7 2.0 77 050 17 24.1 102.73 Mainly Clear

*true direction wind
**speed in km/h
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Cadors Number: 2009C1331 Reporting Region: Prairie & Northern

Occurrence Information
Occurrence Type: Incident Occurrence Date: 2009/06/02
Occurrence Time: 1920 Z Day Or Night: day-time
Fatalities: 0 Injuries: 0

Canadian Aerodrome ID: CYUB Aerodrome Name: Tuktoyaktuk
Occurrence Location: Tuktoyaktuk (CYUB) Province: Northwest Territories
Country: CANADA World Area: North America

Reported By: Other AOR Number:
TSB Class Of Investigation: TSB Occurrence No.:
Event Information
Loss of control - on ground
Runway excursion
Aircraft Information
Flight #: AKK
Aircraft Category: Aeroplane Country of Registration: CANADA
Make: DEHAVILLAND - CAN Model: DHC 6 300
Year Built: 1975 Amateur Built: No
Engine Make: PRATT & WHITNEY-CAN Engine Model: PT6A-28
Engine Type: Turbo prop Gear Type: Land
Phase of Flight: Landing Damage: Minor
Owner: KENN BOREK AIR LTD Operator: AKLAK (2273)
Operator Type: Commercial

Detail Information
User Name: Ridley, Rod
Date: 2009/06/03
Further Action Required: No
O.P.I.: System Safety
Narrative: An Aklak DHC-6 was landing at Tuktoyaktuk after a flight from Inuvik when the crew lost control of the aircraft and it departed the runway into the grass at low speed. There is damage to Station 60 of the fuselage as well as to the belly skin and lower rudder fairing. There were no injuries to the pilot and 4 passengers. The aircraft will be ferried to Inuvik for repairs.
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Tough week for Borek.

Let's avoid the monday morning QBing
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For you arm chair QB's who can't wait to post something about what or why or how stupid, just remember it can happen to you.
I had a gear collapse, it was my fault. Up to that moment I kind of looked down my nose at how pilots could make such a mistake. I now Know.

Glad no one was hurt.
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Yeah, you need video footage, then you can shoot them down. Tough day for Borek, with the Maldives incident and all. Hopefully the worst is behind them.
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Who said anything about lynching the pilots or looking down your nose at them?

I am sure there are many on here who are interested to learn what conditions or malfunctions caused a twin otter to end up off the side of a runway after a normal (?) landing.

I just find it odd that situations like this, or a dash 8 going off the end of a 10 000 foot runway, are considered "off limits" by so many.
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I just find it odd that situations like this, or a dash 8 going off the end of a 10 000 foot runway, are considered "off limits" by so many.
Maybe because the need to deny overrides others want to know why?

With that mindset all accidents/incidents should be kept secret so no one learns or knows anything.
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Donald wrote:Who said anything about lynching the pilots or looking down your nose at them?

I am sure there are many on here who are interested to learn what conditions or malfunctions caused a twin otter to end up off the side of a runway after a normal (?) landing.

I just find it odd that situations like this, or a dash 8 going off the end of a 10 000 foot runway, are considered "off limits" by so many.
It's Avcanada, it's full of QB's that love point out how stupid there peer's are. It's only a matter of time before they start giving their professional opinions.
I'm also wanting to know what happened, as I have friends who fly for Borek, and have many trips logged to TUK.
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their peers :wink:
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And point out the lack of spelling / grammar.
Smartass. :D
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Oh me oh my, tell me it aint so, all that off strip hero suggestive type hype , and sim. training, with the "best in the world", holier than thou, better than the rest attitude, and Tuk's 6000 foot runway bites him...must have been a late one the at the trapper the night before, sorry to all you KBA lovers...can't resist, it's awfully quite, now if it were a certain operator from the wells all you suckers would be having a field day with insulting comments.
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Oh me oh my, tell me it aint so, all that off strip hero suggestive type hype , and sim. training, with the "best in the world", holier than thou, better than the rest attitude, and Tuk's 6000 foot runway bites him...must have been a late one the at the trapper the night before, sorry to all you KBA lovers...can't resist, it's awfully quite, now if it were a certain operator from the wells all you suckers would be having a field day with insulting comments.
Geez - with comments like that - you bring it upon yourselves...At least the Borek guy made his intended airfield with his 30 minute reserve...
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Geez - with comments like that - you bring it upon yourselves...At least the Borek guy made his intended airfield with his 30 minute reserve...[/quote]


KBA lover you missed the point by a mile, carry on, let's have more defense, just for the record i don't work for either one of these outfits, did back in the mid 1900's though, when men were men and all you wannabes were not allowed near an airplane.... geez running out of gas, and running of mile long strips, what's this world coming to, to many grass hoppers I guess
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Tuk
It’s a pretty safe bet they didn’t go off the end of the runway, the dam thing can land across it.
What happened? Who knows, it will all come out in the wash. Making a mistake landing, or having a mechanical failure VS Running out of gas on VFR day is kind of in a different league of fu@k up don’t ya think?

As for the holier then thou KBA lover crap; yup loved working for that company, had a blast. Then again I was a lowly Beech bitch what could I possibly know.

Flame away grandpa.
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heheheh, I love it, can't wait to hear the EXPERT, all time hero off strip, know it all, Ace Mc-Kewl sound off, :prayer:
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KBA lover you missed the point by a mile
Nope - again thats NWright - and I couldn't care either way about KBAL...theres some good guys there and some bad guys there - same as everywhere.
just for the record i don't work for either one of these outfits, did back in the mid 1900's though
Neither do I...and I never have (and no - we don't have to automatically have to respect you even if you've been flying since the "mid 1900's"...respect is earned)
when men were men and all you wannabes were not allowed near an airplane
What kind of lame statement is that?
what's this world coming to, to many grass hoppers I guess
Good one...Brilliant
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Does that count as offstrip time/offstrip landing ?
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unusually quite don't ya think? a little more info for yall, just trying to be helpful.



Plane loses control at Tuk airport

Katie May
Northern News Services
Published Monday, June 8, 2009

TUKTOYAKTUK - An Aklak Air Twin Otter plane flying from Inuvik to Tuktoyaktuk skidded off the runway as it landed on June 2, causing minor damage to the tail end as it scraped against the gravel.

There were 13 passengers and two crew members on board and none of them reported any injuries.

Passenger John Fraser recalled the plane fishtailing in the air a few times before landing hard in the ditch

"A wall of gravel came up on the window on my side almost like a hailstorm," said Fraser, who flies back and forth between Inuvik and Tuk every week.

The RCMP was called to the airport around 1:20 p.m. and left shortly after. Aklak Air is now conducting its own investigation and collecting statements from passengers, crew and aircraft experts to submit a report to the Transportation Safety Board of Canada by early this week.

Sean Loutitt, Aklak Air's vice-president of operations, said the company is looking at mechanical issues, wind gusting and the pilot's landing technique as possible factors in the incident.

"One of the possibilities is that the pilot essentially made a mistake on landing and that's why it went into the ditch, but, again, because we're doing our investigation we can't say so for sure," Loutitt said from his office in Calgary.

"We are in the middle of the investigation and obviously we're going to do whatever we can do to make sure that this kind of thing doesn't happen again."

Fraser said only about 10 seconds passed from the time the plane was in the air until it skidded into the ditch. He called the experience "unexpected and unpleasant."

He said all passengers waited in the plane, which was stuck in the mud, for about 10 minutes until airport officials brought out wooden pallets for them to walk across to the airport.

"It all happened so quickly, you don't really have time to think," he said. "We all burst out laughing as soon as the thing came to a stop - more out of relief than anything else ... I'm sure everyone was scared."
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Tuk U wrote:"We all burst out laughing as soon as the thing came to a stop...."
A fellow pilot may have made an error while landing an aircraft that is known to be bit a handful in certain conditions. I'm sorry but I think your one of the only people who thinks this is a disaster. Your posts are coming off a little bitter and hateful which may be why no one is taking the bait. Stay safe.
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oh ever so sorry to ruffle your feathers but upon close examination you will note that that is a quote from the people on the aircraft not I, remember not to shoot the messenger, oh and IMHO running of a 6000 foot airstrip in a TO with such a skilled and self claimed off strip any time any where bunch of heroes is not as much a disaster as it is an embarrassment, after all it has always been this group flying the red, white and black that make fun and point at others misfortunes, so suck it up dudes.... :smt040
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Yep, I have to agree with you TukU. Never worked with so many heroes before in my life. Maybe it will bring some of them back down to earth. Glad to hear no one was injured other than somebody's ego. As some of you have pointed out if it was any other company people on here would be all over it. Any company that treat's people as shitty as Borek does is bound to have things like this happen. Running a Twin Otter off the end of a 6000' gravel strip without a catestrophic failure of some kind is unaceptable, especially when you have the best pilot's in the world at the control's... :roll:
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well thanks John, of corse you will now be a hated and labeled a disgruntled immature blah,blah... the sad truth though is that it won't bring any of them to any sort of light, it has to happen at he top the heap,and when the chief struts around with as bad of a case as short people syndrome as he has, well it's very unlikely, instead a new pair of oakleys will fix it for them
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Specifics?
Surely if you can speak with such authority you can do more than just call people egotistical and short.

In recent threads I was critical of Aklak's blue competitor. I kept my comments to the facts before me, I didn't shout insults and I also distinguished between pilots on their first job flogging Cessna's around and CFITing and running out of gas versus the mistakes made by experienced bush crews in Twotters, as evidenced by the fact that I did NOT refer to N-W's own fairly recent Twotter incident.

You guys are like little kids on the play-ground shouting 'I know you are but what am I?' in response to everything. Are people going to suggest that's immature? Well, yah, probably. You say Borek treats is people like crap and is lead by and filled with people blinded by their own egotism. I was there a while and I didn't see that. I'd be interested to hear the specifics of why you feel the way you do; I can't see why you'd be shy about providing them, as you both clearly couldn't give a f*** what people think about you.

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