The college would not be responsible for deciding if a workplace was a safe place to work at. That is the Governments job.snaproll20 wrote:I am disturbed by the repeated reference to "limiting the number of pilots."
Just who is this College that it can tell people they cannot train for a commercial licence and then seek employment?
It is a too obvious and easy ploy to solve supply and demand and benefits only those pilots already "In".
We see this at major airlines doing the union thing. It is always the top dogs who get the gravy, even if it means the airline will lay off the newer pilots on the payroll if a strike happens. This disinterest in their colleagues' welfare and elitism that some airline pilots put out is one reason to doubt this initiative will take hold. Suppose the College had limited the number of "approved and employable" pilots just before the huge hiring boom of the past few years? The result would have been to totally restrict airline expansion plans. The only solution would have been the cadet program and boy, would there have been some yelling and screaming at that!!!
What are the credentials for joining? Does my membership mean I am qualified and worthy of the job? If a company I am employed at is deemed an inappropriate place to work, do I have to leave and become unemployed?
Right now the government accepts what the College of Physicians for instance tells them (up to a point). The government still has the final word as it is the voice (supposedly) of the people.
The purpose of a college (I am assuming) is to set up the industry so that entrance into it is not a free flow of whoever can afford to buy a license. By changing the way that pilots are trained, the new pilots will find there to be actual jobs when they graduate after they spent a fortune learning. This is not unusual, the desire to find a job when you get out of school.
Look at it this way, would you rather just let people get a license at huge expense just too find out there are no jobs?
What are the credentials for joining? I cannot speak for anyone but myself but I would assume that any Canadian commercial or higher rated pilot would be eligible.
Your membership would not qualify you for anything as your license would do that.
Your membership would allow you to participate in creating a group somewhat along the line of the College of Physicians and Surgeons whose mission page reads as such
Mission & Goals;
Mission
The College of Family Physicians of Canada is a national voluntary organization of family physicians that makes continuing medical education of its members mandatory.
The College strives to improve the health of Canadians by promoting high standards of medical education and care in family practice, by contributing to public understanding of healthful living, by supporting ready access to family physician services, and by encouraging research and disseminating knowledge about family medicine.
Goals
As the voice of family medicine in Canada, The College of Family Physicians of Canada (CFPC) will:
Goal #1
champion quality health care for all people in Canada,
Goal #2
support its members in providing quality patient care through education, research and the promotion of best practices,
Goal #3
ensure that the role of the family physician is well understood and widely valued.
http://www.cfpc.ca/English/cfpc/about%2 ... lt.asp?s=1
I have been hearing about "The Great Coming Pilot Shortage" since before I learned how to fly.
I have a relative who just finished Med school. He has a choice of places to work. They are courting him. I won't even tell you what his starting salary is because if I mention over 200,000 you would be upset, so I won't. Yes he did a lot of school compared to a pilot. However I know from talking to a lot of medical people that in Med. school they wash out a heck of a lot of people by devious methods. The reason they do this is to restrict the # of entrants into the field. The people who get washed out are very talented people. This may offend you but go onto any website and check out how many pilots there at any given time who are job hunting.
Ask the two pilots at Colgan whether 16,000 a year is a living wage, sleeping in a crew room, working as a waitress, living with Mom while you build up time.
Jazz pays 30 thousand some odd starting wage. I had one friend who went there, was all excited that he was finally flying the "big Iron" right up to the point when he went to the bank to get a mortgage. "No Can Do", he wasn't making enough to get a mortgage.
The purpose is not to "Stop" the training of new pilots, it is to reduce it to a level where people can reasonably expect to find a job after they have spent the money.
The eventual goal will be that all pilots will be in the college. Sort of like all corporate 604 operations are members of the CBAA.
The current unions are in place for very good reasons. Companies can be just as devious as unions.
