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Re: Confed AFM Questions

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gwones wrote:
Also, once I get to Thunder Bay would it be possible to work and study at the same time? I understand it's really up to my own ability and dedication but generally would the schedule allow for both? It won't be the same as regular 5 to 8 part-time job making just enough for the pocket because I'll be trying to pay off the tuition here. I hope you understand what I'm trying to explain.

It's a little frustrating because I haven't planned the finance part. Even if I clear off the tuition for the 1st & 2nd semester, the 3rd semester begins right away so I'm trying to find a solution to keep myself in the boat.

Thanks for reading and I'd greatly appreciate your advice.

Have a good one!
When you are in Thunder Bay, you can work as a student dispatcher for the college. Fueling the planes, completing journey logs etc. Because it's part of the school, you are scheduled fully around your school sched. So you never have to worry about the 2 interfering.

As far as your loan, osap gave me crap all ( a lot less than I was expecting/needed). I ended up having to scramble but managed to get a student line of credit from my bank. It may be worth you checking out.
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Re: Confed AFM Questions

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AUGER9 wrote: When you are in Thunder Bay, you can work as a student dispatcher for the college. Fueling the planes, completing journey logs etc. Because it's part of the school, you are scheduled fully around your school sched. So you never have to worry about the 2 interfering.

As far as your loan, osap gave me crap all ( a lot less than I was expecting/needed). I ended up having to scramble but managed to get a student line of credit from my bank. It may be worth you checking out.
Thanks AUGER9. However, would they still offer that kind of job to a person without such experience? I am wondering if they train you from the bottom or only hire those with experience in this field.

Also about the student line of credit, would you be able to explain it a little more in detail? I'd like to hear more about it since I'm open to every options that are available. Maybe I should contact a local bank too.

Thanks again,

Have a good one!
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Yes, they hire any flight student that wants to dispatch. The job is there specifically for the flight students that need a little extra cash. They fully train you, no experience required.
Contact your local bank. They all have various loans and line-of-credits available for students.
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AUGER9 wrote:Yes, they hire any flight student that wants to dispatch. The job is there specifically for the flight students that need a little extra cash. They fully train you, no experience required.
Contact your local bank. They all have various loans and line-of-credits available for students.
Great,

It seems like working my butt off + student line of credit would be the best idea. I'm going to a local bank tomorrow and see if I can get some more information on it.

Thanks AUGER9!
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Re: Confed AFM Questions

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Hey guys,

So I've been here and there trying to get my financial problems solved. Now, would you guys recommend buying a meal plan? Of course it's not so much of a fun shopping for food every weekend but which option do you think is more efficient?(Time/Distance/Money-wise) I was just figuring out how much I should apply for the line of credit -- hopefully I could be able to get a part-time job there so monthly budget wouldn't become a problem.

Thanks guys!

P.S -- This is a bit off-topic but I think I have read somewhere from this forum that Confed will be offering Multi-IFR as a part of their program starting in 2010. If that's true, would new students entering the program in '09 also benefit from the new change to the system? Or is this just a rumor?
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Now, would you guys recommend buying a meal plan? Of course it's not so much of a fun shopping for food every weekend but which option do you think is more efficient?
If you are going to live in Sibley Hall, it is mandatory..you will have paid 2200 CDN for 1 year. Don't buy a meal plan unless you're going to live in res. Cafe's prices are so expensive and can not be considered as healthy..
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fyi, if you do live in res you are forced to buy that meal plan... to make the best of a chity situation, you can go down the road to Lake Head university and go to their caf for food; as they will take your meal plan card...that and the food is ALLOT better (both places contract out to aarmark sp?).
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Re: Confed AFM Questions

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gwones wrote:P.S -- This is a bit off-topic but I think I have read somewhere from this forum that Confed will be offering Multi-IFR as a part of their program starting in 2010. If that's true, would new students entering the program in '09 also benefit from the new change to the system? Or is this just a rumor?
Can someone in the know please shed some light on this, because this news nearly gave me a heart attack! If this is true, my life would be complete.
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The multi-ifr (to date) is mostly a rumor and there is no solid plan to incorporate it within the curriculum. Even though it is discussed every year (to my knowledge), there are far more important priorities on Confeds AFM list. But It is still possible, just not a top priority nor concern. They graduate dozens of pilots into the industry every year , so as stated, very unlikely in the next few years. I believe the program is slowly under a process of renewal, yet these types of things take lots of time. The Float training will never be sacrificed, and at summers end, it truly does educate and better the student pilot.

Much more fun than a multi on wheels;) :smt064
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Re: Confed AFM Questions

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Thanks above, for all the responses and as always.

I chose the cheapest meal plan($2200CAD). Hopefully it will keep me away from starvation :D. I've also received a letter last week saying that the school begins Sept 8th. It's a little late this year I guess?

How's the 2008 first year's summer class going?

and how's everyone else doing their preparation for this coming Fall?

Cheers!
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Here's the most important lessons that I learned:

1. Stay in Rez first year, then move out when the summer hits (meet lots of people, but you'll get easily annoyed with people from other programs)

2. Day 1, find somebody with a car and strike a deal. $10/week for gas to carpool to school

3. Focus on the prize. Study hard for the first two semesters. There will be time for partying, but DO NOT let it interfere with your marks.

4. DO NOT focus your studies on one subject. In my class there was a guy who studied sooo hard for groundschool, he got 90's in all groundschool subjects, but failed the "other" courses (math and physics i think).
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Stevo226 wrote:Here's the most important lessons that I learned:

1. Stay in Rez first year, then move out when the summer hits (meet lots of people, but you'll get easily annoyed with people from other programs)

2. Day 1, find somebody with a car and strike a deal. $10/week for gas to carpool to school

3. Focus on the prize. Study hard for the first two semesters. There will be time for partying, but DO NOT let it interfere with your marks.

4. DO NOT focus your studies on one subject. In my class there was a guy who studied sooo hard for groundschool, he got 90's in all groundschool subjects, but failed the "other" courses (math and physics i think).
Thank You Stevo226, I appreciate your advice.

I applied for the Rez just last week(which I believe is not very early, considering the competition within applicants) so I'm not sure if I could get a spot in Sibley yet. Hopefully I should get an acceptance letter in my mail soon.

The only thing that concerns me is with the time management, which I believe is one of the most important things that would eventually keep me in the boat.

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Re: Confed AFM Questions

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Hey guys,

(sorry to drag this topic forever!)

Recently I've been digging FTGU and to tell you the truth, I have trouble understanding some of the things that are explained in the book. I didn't want to stress myself too much about it already because the school didn't even start, plus everything I've read will eventually be taught in class (which then things would make more sense to me) so I was wondering which sections of the book that you consider are most important for preparation. I thought I could trim things down and spend the next 2 months studying the things that are most important, rather than trying to absorb the whole book(or should I just do that? :D).

Thanks guys,

P.S // Btw, a person from Sibley Hall called me and said that they can only offer Super single with NO bathroom. Anybody have experience with that typical room-style? Did it ever interfere/bother with your morning schedule? (Shower etc etc)
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I was in a regular single-no bathroom. Wasn't bad at all. everybody on the East side was in the same boat, had to use the common bathroom, but it was kept pretty clean. Make sure you wear flip flops in the shower though, a couple people on my floor got some kind of fugus cause they didn't wear shoes. Your classes start before anyone else's so the place is pretty quiet in the mornings.

Also I should mention, there will be people in your class who think they know it all and would rather have fun being on their own for the first time (most are air cadets). these people will fail out and if you stick with them, you will too. be careful. Some people can party their asses off and still get good grades, but that's the exception

feel free to pm me if you have more questions or want to see pics of the rooms
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gwones wrote: P.S // Btw, a person from Sibley Hall called me and said that they can only offer Super single with NO bathroom. Anybody have experience with that typical room-style? Did it ever interfere/bother with your morning schedule? (Shower etc etc)
I'm going into the same living situation. I sent my papers for residence almost 2 months ago and they didn't have the room type I wanted either, so I had to take the super-single w/ no bath. Check out the residence page on confederation's website and you can see the virtual tour thing to see exactly what you're getting.
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Chelo wrote:
gwones wrote: P.S // Btw, a person from Sibley Hall called me and said that they can only offer Super single with NO bathroom. Anybody have experience with that typical room-style? Did it ever interfere/bother with your morning schedule? (Shower etc etc)
I'm going into the same living situation. I sent my papers for residence almost 2 months ago and they didn't have the room type I wanted either, so I had to take the super-single w/ no bath. Check out the residence page on confederation's website and you can see the virtual tour thing to see exactly what you're getting.
Hey Chelo,

I called them back today and accepted the offer as well. It will be a whole new environment but we'll get used to it :D

From what I can see from the website, it sure is a super size! I like how the desk is far away from the door.
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Glad I found some others going to Confed this fall as I will also be attending!
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Hey guys,

How does registration normally work for programs like AFM?
Back when I was in Seneca, Flight Program students were automatically placed into classes/schedules.
I was wondering if pre-coordinated programs like AFM work the same way everywhere.

Cheers! (Almost September!)
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Your classes are already arranged. However, you still need to register. They will let you know when. The reason is that they split first years into 2 classes. The scheds are relatively the same, what you have in the morning, the other group does in the afternoon etc.
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AUGER9 wrote:Your classes are already arranged. However, you still need to register. They will let you know when. The reason is that they split first years into 2 classes. The scheds are relatively the same, what you have in the morning, the other group does in the afternoon etc.
Thank You Auger9!
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Hey, thanks for the wicked responses.

Can't wait to start the journey.

I was just wondering who conducts the flight tests for the program? And also would you happen to know any of their favourite brews?
And what happens if a pilot happens to fail either the written or the flight part of the tests?

But that's not gonna happen. (knocking on wood...0
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p.s. who knows anything about these english evaluation tests they're giving us? does this relate to the program at all or is it just a college necessity?
could be cuz im an older student, but i was just wondering...
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There's about 4 or 5 instructors who can also do the flight tests. Obviously your instructor cannot do yours.

For the PPL, there is the Transport flight test and the college flight test. Both are the same, done at the same time. Only thing is that to pass transport you need a 50%, college requires 70%. There's a ton of possible scenarios, although you're most likely to have a full pass. If you score over 70 but fail 1 or 2 items, then you redo those items, and MUST pass! There's may be 1 or 2 students that will fail out from the flying, they prepare you well so don't worry.

For the writtens, you will do a transport exam and a college exam, not the same. College exam is a large part of your ground school mark, of which you need a 70% to pass. Transports exams are a walk in the park compared to the colleges, a couple students may fail a section. They simply re-write that part.

The english evals were not given my year, but I believe if you score high enough, than you are exempt from taking the english class.
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The English test is a requirement from TC to be issued a license...

It takes 20 or so minutes and is a verbal test. The examiner asks you simple questions and you just reply.

All it does is show that you can speak and understand very basic English. I'm assuming this is the test you are talking about...
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I think there are two types of comm evaluation. One is for the college(You are placed into the comm course according to your mark. If you get a good mark, then you are settled with one regular comm course and if not, you have to take an extra course in conjunction) and another from the TC(during our first year) as mentioned above.
Note: This program is currently going through the renewal process and the curriculum is subject to change. In the case of the semester I Communication course CS117, all students will be given a post-admission assessment. These results will determine placement into either CS021 or CS117. CS021 will be offered in conjunction with CS031 in a compressed format, for a total of six hours/week of Communications for semester I. Successful completion of these two courses will further allow the opportunity of an exemption from a general education elective.
This was on the college website. Hope it clears it up a little :)

Btw my comm assessment is on the 8th of Sept after the orientation at 1pm.

Looking forward to see you everyone!
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