Canada's C-17's . . . what do they do??

[niss]

If I was in charge, I'd cancel the $2 billion gun registry
and re-direct it all to the military.

Really? Does whomever the government gave the $2B to give refunds?

[Jercules]

Donald

I think there's some truth to what you are saying. The military pilot/tech is nomadic, particularly those who travel through Yellowknife. I'd bet that if pilots/techs spent more than 2/3 years in Yellowknife at a time that operation would evolve into something closer to industry standard. I'm not sure how long you've spent doing Northern Ops but if the longest toothed guy in your company had been there for a couple of years you might agree that certain manoeuvers would need to be trained earlier and more often. The role of that squadron is quite varied and I'm sure what they do in training is to prepare them for the worst possible contingencies. It would be great if someone like yourself were able to serve with them as a reservist and provide continuity and industry insight.

I do take some exception to your remark re lack of systems knowledge concerning the ejection. Misdiagnosing an anti-skid failure is a mistake and does not imply a lack of knowledge.

Cheers

[CYOX]

My last time trying to explain my thoughts....

I directed some of my comments at the operation of aircraft used in non-combat roles. I was not making any assumptions about LZ's or Taliban or avoiding enemy fire. My only comment on the hornet, was about the findings in a report published by the military. As a taxpayer I feel that I should not just roll over and accept the cost of running any gov't agency (incl military ops) where there is potentially money being wasted. Before one can question or comment on anything, must they have actual experience of it? If so, I would think 95% of the comments on this site should disappear!

Maybe you shouldn't comment on things you know nothing about.

Educate me then big guy.

The way it works is, you educate yourself first, then spout off. Not my responsibility to educate you. Just make sure you get the facts straight, otherwise you look like an idiot.

[CYOX]

In order for a company to operate in Canadian airspace they are required to possess an operators certificate that conforms to TC regulations.

Not only conform, but they must hold a CFAOC.

It's not up to DND. DND simply throws the RFPs out to the world (through MERX and other methods) and then PWGSC is the one who decides who to award the contract to. It's all beaurocracy at a high fed govt level.

Actually it is DND who procures these aircraft through a source list, PWGSC has nothing to do with the selection of aircraft for the DND.

[just curious]

I'd bet that if pilots/techs spent more than 2/3 years in Yellowknife at a time that operation would evolve into something closer to industry standard. I'm not sure how long you've spent doing Northern Ops but if the longest toothed guy in your company had been there for a couple of years you might agree that certain maneuvers would need to be trained earlier and more often. The role of that squadron is quite varied and I'm sure what they do in training is to prepare them for the worst possible contingencies. It would be great if someone like yourself were able to serve with them as a reservist and provide continuity and industry insight.

While there are about a dozen guys in Yellowknife alone that would fill the bill admirably, the combination of the Degree, medical and time off for the Basic Officer, Multi School at Southport, and Flightsafety limit a lot of people. Couple that with the general lack of knowledge of reserve pilot requirements at the YK recruiting office, and it is easy to see why the Reserve flight at 440 is a unit of one.

[sigmet77]

Seriously, it is discussions like these that make it hard to read this forum at times. C-17=gun registry how? And the mentality of the posts reminds me of online gamers, but at least they are all teenagers. I'm taking a break from this site, which is too bad as I like to read it and find out some pretty useful information. Unfortunately a number of posters like nothing better than to argue, perhaps the mods could start a new topic page title "Arguement Department" (I can't remember what it was called in Monty Python but that is what I was going for). Cheers.

[Flyboy757]

Jercules wrote:
" The military pilot/tech is nomadic, particularly those who travel through Yellowknife. I'd bet that if pilots/techs spent more than 2/3 years in Yellowknife at a time that operation would evolve into something closer to industry standard."

Firstly....ALL Military Personnel lead a "nomadic" lifesyle, not just the YZF people...that`s the nature of being in the Military.

Secondly...."operation would evolve into something closer to industry standard." You CAN NOT compare civilian standards to Military flying . The W5`s have clearly been explained in posts on this thread. You are trying to compare apples and oranges.....

The whole post has no fact, only speculation.


I agree with sigmets post above....................Cheers.

[Jercules]

757

I think you may have missed my point.

I'm in the military, and I've flown commercially. Just as civil industry has benefited from military aviation, I think military aviation, particularly strategic transport, can do the same.

It's a fact that military experience levels are lower than their industry counterparts. It's a fact that small fleet military units (twotter/buffs/d-8s) are constantly shuffling personnel in and out. I pointed these facts out to Donald in an effort to explain why we train the way we train.

[Flyboy757]

Jercules,

Thank you for the clarification.
I did 21 in the CF and 12 in the airlines. There are pro`s and con`s to both worlds but they are different, sometimes & mostly, very differernt.
Comparison`s are unfair to both sides of aviation.

757