Just 'cos we haven't talked about this in a while......

[Rockie]

Well, your peace of mind and what the police are permitted (or not permitted) to do are not related in any way. I wouldn't break out the champagne on losing the registry any time soon either. This will become a MAJOR issue first and it won't go well for the Conservatives.

[Four1oh]

Eff'n city slickers.

[Rockie]

Eff'n city slickers.

You hit the nail on the head four1oh.

The federal Liberals are in desperate need of an issue that not only resonates with Canadians but distinguishes them from the Conservatives. This could be it. And the reason I say that is because of a man named Peter Donolo.

The astute political observer will know that Peter Donolo has just been named Ignatieff's chief of staff in an effort to turn around not only his flagging support, but that of the party itself. Donolo it will be recalled was instrumental in Chretien's success in coming to power and ruling this country for three consecutive majorities. Donolo was also David Miller's campaign manager in his first election, and successfully turned an insignificant bridge into a winning issue for you know who.

Donolo is smart. And you can bet he has his eye on this gun registry issue as a means of bringing support back to the Liberals. I think Harper has just done the Liberals a huge favour...again.

[JakeYYZ]

I don’t read the paper’s much. How did the Lib’s do in those bhaa-by elections?
Not so good I hear. But then, my hearing is selective...so I have been told.

[Siddley Hawker]

How did the Lib’s do in those bhaa-by elections?

As Capitain Poutine might put it "We are t'ird."

[mcrit]

I wouldn't break out the champagne on losing the registry any time soon either. This will become a MAJOR issue first and it won't go well for the Conservatives.

Sadly, I think you might be right. However, while the Liberals will have Donolo to deal with this, they won't be facing a divided right or Preston Manning this time.

Do you agree with Van Loan suppressing that report and deciding for everyone else what is and is not relevant in it?

That's just spin management.

[Rockie]

Do you agree with Van Loan suppressing that report and deciding for everyone else what is and is not relevant in it?

That's just spin management.

Spin management is putting their own interpretation on what the report says after it is released. What they did was completely deny the public and parliament access to the report until after the vote while telling us it didn't say anything significant. Spinning information and suppressing information are not the same thing. If the report was favourable to the Conservatives position do you think they would have hesitated releasing it?

I don’t read the paper’s much. How did the Lib’s do in those bhaa-by elections?
Not so good I hear. But then, my hearing is selective...so I have been told.

The Liberal's position would not change significantly whether they won or lost those by-elections, and that's not what Donolo was brought in for. He hasn't begun to change the message the Libs are putting out yet because the big prize is the general election. That's where the big effort is going to be directed. I sincerely doubt you will see Ignatieff do something as stupid as threaten to bring down the government again until they are ready.

[Dust Devil]

The Liberal's position would not change significantly whether they won or lost those by-elections, and that's not what Donolo was brought in for. He hasn't begun to change the message the Libs are putting out yet because the big prize is the general election. That's where the big effort is going to be directed. I sincerely doubt you will see Ignatieff do something as stupid as threaten to bring down the government again until they are ready.

Budget time is coming around the corner. If he has a plan to revamp the Liberal Party to try and pick up the 20 - 30 points they are down he better get on it.

Generally I think Canadians are content with a Conservative government and understand that the current economic problems have little to do with the government and more to do with the global economic situation.

As long as Canada is fairing better then the rest of the world it will be an up hill battle for the Liberals.

That said as a conservative I do have concerns about how the current government is handling the finances. I don't like how they are catering to NDP and Liberal demands for deficits. I would like to see a truly financially conservative party however since one does not exist I have no choice but to support the current government.

[mcrit]

suppressing information are not the same thing

If the info were supressed would we be talking about it now? Spinning also includes timing the release of info. That's all that happened here.

[Rockie]

suppressing information are not the same thing

If the info were supressed would we be talking about it now? Spinning also includes timing the release of info. That's all that happened here.

No, spin is putting an interpretation on information. It was suppressed until after the vote despite many people and party's requesting it. Do you not think that report was relevant given the vote? Do you not think the Conservatives would have released it prior to the vote if it supported their position? Would you be as generous if the Liberals had done that?

I know I wouldn't. I doubt you would either.

[grimey]

Hey, at least we're not the UK:

http://www.thisissurreytoday.co.uk/news ... ticle.html

[rigpiggy]

Don't worry if Rockie, and his ilk have their way, we to will be like the UK

[Rockie]

What ilk would that be rigpiggy? Is that a service club like the Knights of Columbus? I've never heard of the ilks.

[Four1oh]

I have to question the Conservative's thought process on this decision. Why wouldn't they wait til they had a majority government(which is inevitable, the way things are looking) to bring this bill up? Or, do they think this will put them over the edge to majority territory by bringing this up? If so, I think it was an error.

[Topspin]

I know it doesn't mean much, but, wow.....

CBC's poll:


CBC's viewer poll:
http://www.cbc.ca/news/polls/polldaddy-gunregistry.html
Thank you for voting!
I would vote to abolish it 74% (10,440 votes)
I would vote to keep it 25% (3,536 votes)
Undecided. I wouldn't vote 1% (168 votes) Total Votes: 14,144

This bill might just be functioning democracy in action....

The wording of that cbc article and poll is ridiculous.