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Apache64_

Post subject: GPS Waypoint Hold Clearance

Posted: Sat Nov 21, 2009 9:17 pm

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Anyone have an example of a GPS waypoint hold clearance. Specifically, how do you phrase direction and course from the waypoint?

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Dave_oh

Post subject: Re: GPS Waypoint Hold Clearance

Posted: Sun Nov 22, 2009 4:54 am

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I was asked this week to enter a hold on a GPS waypoint for the first time in my experience as an IFR instructor - the controller issued the clearance similar to an NDB hold "SW IB on a track of 015 degrees at waypoint X" It took me a few seconds to figure out how to configure the GPS but it worked out nicely by the time we hit the waypoint.

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Captain X

Post subject: Re: GPS Waypoint Hold Clearance

Posted: Tue Nov 24, 2009 12:54 am

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I have had to Hold on a GPS fix for a RNAV approach... waiting for another aircraft to fly the approach. I would assume that you should know to navigate to and from a Waypoint on a specific track, shouldn't that be covered in your GPS training.

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paydaymayday

Post subject: Re: GPS Waypoint Hold Clearance

Posted: Tue Nov 24, 2009 6:52 am

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I just make sure to dial up the waypoint, make sure the sequence is right, select GPS on the NAV/GPS switch, HOLD on the AUTO/HOLD switch, and dial in the HSI for the desired heading. Then I hand fly it because autopilots are for losers and I like to hand fly.

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mathewc

Post subject: Re: GPS Waypoint Hold Clearance

Posted: Wed Nov 25, 2009 9:47 pm

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"Then I hand fly it because autopilots are for losers and I like to hand fly."

Hahaha. Awesome.

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good_idea

Post subject: Re: GPS Waypoint Hold Clearance

Posted: Thu Nov 26, 2009 7:14 pm

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paydaymayday wrote:

. Then I hand fly it because autopilots are for losers and I like to hand fly.

Sounds like you are just bitter that you don't fly an aircraft with an autopilot

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Apache64_

Post subject: Re: GPS Waypoint Hold Clearance

Posted: Mon Nov 30, 2009 5:14 am

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I wasn't asking how to fly the hold, program the gps or the fms system. I normally have that all figured out. And yes, we cover that portion in our GPS and FMS ground school.

I was asking how the clearance is given because I haven't received one in a long time, and I was planning on giving some RNAV hold clearances next time I was teaching in the sim, and would like to give them properly. Saves confusion.

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Apache

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parrot_head

Post subject: Re: GPS Waypoint Hold Clearance

Posted: Mon Nov 30, 2009 9:51 pm

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Issue it like you would issue an NDB hold. "Cleared direct TURDD, maintain 7000, hold SE inbound track 320, expect further clearance at 1230"

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