Westjet

The Fish · Post by **The Fish** » Thu Dec 17, 2009 9:38 am

Ok, I'll feed the troll.

First year pay is 50Gs Vinnie.

What should it be?

Joe Blow Schmo · Post by **Joe Blow Schmo** » Thu Dec 17, 2009 9:52 am

Jastapilot wrote: BTW, what do you suppose "LCC" means? I didn't say Low Fare Airline.

Wouldn't that be LFA?

flyinhigh · Post by **flyinhigh** » Thu Dec 17, 2009 10:03 am

To give a serious response, I'd say the 737-900ER. Carries the same amount of people or more if you want, with more range than the 800.

800 specs.

http://www.boeing.com/commercial/737fam ... 0tech.html

900ER specs.

http://www.boeing.com/commercial/737fam ... Rtech.html

The 900 would fit into there plans there with the one type comminality as well so.

thats just my thought

vinnie · Post by **vinnie** » Thu Dec 17, 2009 10:08 am

I know some guys that started there a few years ago, and were taking home $750 every two weeks. I know of several guys who had to cash in RRSPs just to cover daily living expenses.

You can spout all the garbage you want about profit sharing, stock options, etc.

Simple fact is I know at least 10 people that have "moved on" to WJ in the past few years. Honeslty, most say they regret it, as it isn't as good as they were led to believe. The grass isn't always greener on the other side, no matter how much the green-juice drinkers try and tell you. Some guys I know actaully feel they were a little duped my all the "hype"

no movement, no upgrades, picking up garbage in the back between flights, eating out of a cooler bag becasue the company doen't provide meals or a decent meal allowance, NO THANKS!

Four1oh · Post by **Four1oh** » Thu Dec 17, 2009 10:24 am

vinnie wrote:I know some guys that started there a few years ago, and were taking home $750 every two weeks. I know of several guys who had to cash in RRSPs just to cover daily living expenses.

You can spout all the garbage you want about profit sharing, stock options, etc.

Simple fact is I know at least 10 people that have "moved on" to WJ in the past few years. Honeslty, most say they regret it, as it isn't as good as they were led to believe. The grass isn't always greener on the other side, no matter how much the green-juice drinkers try and tell you. Some guys I know actaully feel they were a little duped my all the "hype"

no movement, no upgrades, picking up garbage in the back between flights, eating out of a cooler bag becasue the company doen't provide meals or a decent meal allowance, NO THANKS!

glad to know, seeya.

The Fish · Post by **The Fish** » Thu Dec 17, 2009 10:32 am

So vinnie, starting wage IS 50gs without all the "garbage" you listed.

What should it be?

jjj · Post by **jjj** » Thu Dec 17, 2009 2:10 pm

Vinnie,

WS is what it is - not perfect but a good enough gig for the likes of me.

Any one of your friends is welcome to go back from whence they came if WS is not meting their expectations. There is no bond and we only expect people who are happy to stay.

The money is better than most jobs out there to start and it gets better quickly - oh and the garbage you speak of - it buys a lot of really nice things.

If you don't want to groom then don't come.

If you don't like the way things are done then go somewhere else.

I'd recommend Cathay Freighter FO if you are qualified.

I've been here 5 and a bit, my last pay stub said 160k so far this year with 1 month to go - so if you want I could pick you and your friends up a box of kleenex and you guys can get together for a good cry.

WS isn't for everybody and that is fine.

Vinnie, it is poor taste to come on here and spread rubbish about a great job you know very little about.

I don't need your approval - get a life.

bmc · Post by **bmc** » Thu Dec 17, 2009 2:41 pm

To make such a big deal out of Westjet suggests that someone has vendetta. Either didn't get called for an interview or didn't impress during the interview. It happens and I can understand the response.

Everyone handles rejection differently. Show some compassion.

vinnie · Post by **vinnie** » Thu Dec 17, 2009 4:19 pm

bmc wrote:To make such a big deal out of Westjet suggests that someone has vendetta. Either didn't get called for an interview or didn't impress during the interview. It happens and I can understand the response.

Everyone handles rejection differently. Show some compassion.

Never applied, never will!

vinnie · Post by **vinnie** » Thu Dec 17, 2009 4:22 pm

jjj wrote:Vinnie,

WS is what it is - not perfect but a good enough gig for the likes of me.

Any one of your friends is welcome to go back from whence they came if WS is not meting their expectations. There is no bond and we only expect people who are happy to stay.

The money is better than most jobs out there to start and it gets better quickly - oh and the garbage you speak of - it buys a lot of really nice things.

If you don't want to groom then don't come.

If you don't like the way things are done then go somewhere else.

I'd recommend Cathay Freighter FO if you are qualified.

I've been here 5 and a bit, my last pay stub said 160k so far this year with 1 month to go - so if you want I could pick you and your friends up a box of kleenex and you guys can get together for a good cry.

WS isn't for everybody and that is fine.

Vinnie, it is poor taste to come on here and spread rubbish about a great job you know very little about.

I don't need your approval - get a life.

How much of that $160,000 was actually TAKE HOME? You are including all the other stock options, etc in that. Funny how a Captain who has been there 8 years makes LESS than you. Guess he is more honest in disclosing his TRUE WAGES

Now, go drink your green kool-aid. I think there is some garbage in aisle 10 to clean up, maybe some puke, if you are real lucky!.

jjj · Post by **jjj** » Thu Dec 17, 2009 4:38 pm

Oh, with options it will be a little bit more than that on the T4.

I'll send you a copy when I get it next year.

Have a nice day in the circuit.

Merry Christmas Vinnie.

yycflyguy · Post by **yycflyguy** » Thu Dec 17, 2009 5:55 pm

The Fish wrote:So vinnie, starting wage IS 50gs without all the "garbage" you listed.

What should it be?

I wish $50k was the start at AC. We embarrass our new hires with $37.9 first year (which is longer as the clock starts from after you are checked out and do your first line flight).

jjj · Post by **jjj** » Thu Dec 17, 2009 6:09 pm

yycflyguy,

Vinnie would like to know how much of that was take home.

Oh,

yycflyguy, no more glug glug for 2009 - seeya in 2010.

Flightlevels · Post by **Flightlevels** » Thu Dec 17, 2009 8:24 pm

fish are biting!

well, I'm close to 300k this year. I'll pick up garbage and I'll come clean your toilets! for that pay.

jjj · Post by **jjj** » Thu Dec 17, 2009 9:10 pm

Vinnie would like to know how much of that is take home.

flyboy · Post by **flyboy** » Thu Dec 17, 2009 9:42 pm

jjj wrote:Vinnie,

WS is what it is - not perfect but a good enough gig for the likes of me.

Any one of your friends is welcome to go back from whence they came if WS is not meting their expectations. There is no bond and we only expect people who are happy to stay.

The money is better than most jobs out there to start and it gets better quickly - oh and the garbage you speak of - it buys a lot of really nice things.

If you don't want to groom then don't come.

If you don't like the way things are done then go somewhere else.

I'd recommend Cathay Freighter FO if you are qualified.

I've been here 5 and a bit, my last pay stub said 160k so far this year with 1 month to go - so if you want I could pick you and your friends up a box of kleenex and you guys can get together for a good cry.

WS isn't for everybody and that is fine.

Vinnie, it is poor taste to come on here and spread rubbish about a great job you know very little about.

I don't need your approval - get a life.

Well said...I can't stand the young people these days that feel so entitled to everything in life. I recently heard a guy with low time that's a capt on a light turbo prop bitching about WJ. He was on a flight and was appalled that the pilots helped clean the cabin. Well I applaud you. It's about pride and teamwork.
If you don't like the job...don't do it....please go to a different industry because I'm sick of hearing about how bad you have it...or how terrible it is here and there.
End rant.

KAG · Post by **KAG** » Thu Dec 17, 2009 9:53 pm

For those that don't get why we clean our own machines, let me say this...It takes 5 minutes of your day, and saves the company millions over the year. That money helps keep my company efficient, which in turn kicks back a small percentage. That and I'm gainfully employed, which I hope to remain until I retire. If picking up a little trash is going to afford me a good life and a comfortable retirement, then so be it.

yycflyguy · Post by **yycflyguy** » Thu Dec 17, 2009 10:00 pm

jjj wrote:yycflyguy,

Vinnie would like to know how much of that was take home.

Oh,

yycflyguy, no more glug glug for 2009 - seeya in 2010.

Luckily, when you make $37k the taxation rate is minimal... even the CRA takes pity on you.

No more glug glug

Well that is tragic. We will have to double up in 2010.

Merry Kissmyass to JJJ to you and all your garbage pickin cultists

.

jjj · Post by **jjj** » Thu Dec 17, 2009 10:50 pm

And to you to yycflyguy,

Merry itsnotmyjobsickdayifrequired to you and yours and your smokin hot wife and all your heavily unionized colleagues.

JJJ

bmc · Post by **bmc** » Thu Dec 17, 2009 11:10 pm

My dick is bigger than your dick.

yycflyguy · Post by **yycflyguy** » Fri Dec 18, 2009 7:40 am

jjj wrote:And to you to yycflyguy,

Merry itsnotmyjobsickdayifrequired to you and yours and your smokin hot wife and all your heavily unionized colleagues.

JJJ

Flaps 1 · Post by **Flaps 1** » Fri Dec 18, 2009 7:53 am

I work at Jazz....I've got the biggest dick of all you clowns!

Fox 3 · Post by **Fox 3** » Sat Dec 19, 2009 12:53 am

Inverted2 wrote:Maybe something a little faster?

Nice job on the Photoshop, I love those Concords, may they rest in peace.

Fox 3 · Post by **Fox 3** » Sat Dec 19, 2009 12:55 am

bmc wrote:My dick is bigger than your dick.

Story of my life. Thank (insert favorite religious leader here) I'm not a pilot, AME's haven't got as much to prove

Incidentally, my toolbox is worth more then yours

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