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Hi floks,

Just got back from visiting my sweetheart in Paris for a few days. The more I see her, the more I realize how much I want to be with her. So, this brings up the subject of working in France. I was thinking of applying to Fedex at the Charles de Gaulle Airport. No, not for a flying position, as I don't have a JAA license. I am looking for any positions which may be available with Fedex. The plan is to get a job and start earning an income, then later on, look into getting my JAA license. Whether or not a flying position comes my way is not of too much importance at the moment. All I want is to be with my sweetheart, instead of doing this long distance thing. Besides, the industry over here seems to be going down the hole. With Jetsgo now gone, that puts another batch of pilots out on the streets. This is not to say that the grass is any greener over in Europe, but as I mentioned, I'm not too concerned with that at the moment. If any of you have any information on Fedex at CDG, or any contacts in France, it would be greatly appreciated. You can post your replies here if you wish, or you you can PM me.

Thanks in advance guys :wink:
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Why would you do that? What if you two break up in a year? how will you explain to the next CP that you were working for FedEx in France hoping to ditch the Canadian industry?

Remember, passeport and work permit are required to work there. When I was there, the company had to put a local and national job ad, proving that no candidates were qualified. This way, they were able to back up my work visa claim with the ''Prefecture''.

So if you think you have something to offer that no French men has ( :lol: ), then give it a go...
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I dont think it's too difficult to get a tempo work VISA in France. My family moved there years ago and are now residents. I'm not sure who you could contact to find info... look up "french citizenship" or something similar on http://www.google.fr. My family were and still are USA citizens.

Finding work there as a pilot is a completely different story, which would obviously require JAA licensing. You'd also need to be a french national or have an EU PAssport.

Bonne Chance. France is beautiful, and I dream of living there too.

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By the way guys, I think I should have mentioned, that I was born in the U.K. and have a British passport. It's not valid at the moment, but I will renew it ASAP. So that should take care of any issues regarding the right to live and work in France. :wink:
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Cool, so no work permit trouble for you!

Have thought about applying at Flight Safety at "Le Bourget" ?
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I was asking about this in another thread. Happened to read an article in the February issue of Airways (or was it Airliners) while I was holding today. The article was on FedEx SIBA (can't remember what it stands for now). They are FedEx pilots from the Memphis base who work in Europe (another group works in Central and South America). The aircraft are N registered so you could fly with an FAA ticket and live there based on your Euro passport.

If you find contact info PM me. I also have a British passport and FAA tickets.
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Not sure if they still have it but if they do you could always join the foreign legion. If you survive your seven; or is it nine, years you can be a citizen of La Republique.
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TG, I already visited Flightsafety while I was in Paris to see the lady. She works there as the product marketing assistant. She was the one who handed in my resume to the director of training and told him that I would be in town on Friday March 11th. I was fortunate, to have been able to speak with him briefly. Theres not too much going on there, as I don't have all the requirements to be a sim instructor at the moment. I will check out Fedex and find out about working for them. Even if its not a flying position, that's ok for now.
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Cool Rythms,

If you're really sharp and have good in instructional techniques, consider reapplying to FlightSafety as a classroom instructor. They have a number of very low time people there (less than 1000 hours TT on pistons) who teach some of their Type Rating courses-- however, they've learned and understand the aircraft and systems incredibly well. They tend to fill the right or left seats of the sim as "pinch hitters."
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Thanks Panama Jack, but I already checked into that. It seems they have too many ground school instructors and not enough sim instructors. But you are right, some of them have pretty low time. When I did my Citation ground school in January, the instructor only had about 800 hrs., plus she did the occasional flight on the EMB120. I've worked as an instructor at Bombardier, on the CRJ program doing the same type of thing. They're really hurting for FAA/JAA sim instructors with examiner status at Flightsafety in Paris. But I'll stay in touch with them to see what happens in the future.
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Do you have to be based somewhere specific to see your girlfriend?

try asking on http://www.pprune.org & http://forums.aeronet-fr.org/
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Thanks yoyoma,

I visited both websites and registered myself. It's all about networking, which is what I'm trying to do. I appreciate it man. :wink:
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Actually, I think that it's five years in the foriegn legion (not 100% sure) before you get your french citizenship.

Just be aware that they are the one of the only military forces that budgets for fatalities in their training schedule. "March or Die" is something that they take seriously...and severe beatings are still the preferred method of discipline.
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w squared wrote:Actually, I think that it's five years in the foriegn legion (not 100% sure) before you get your french citizenship.

Just be aware that they are the one of the only military forces that budgets for fatalities in their training schedule. "March or Die" is something that they take seriously...and severe beatings are still the preferred method of discipline.
But let me tell you one thing, they sure know how to enjoy a drink after work!
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Don't get me wrong, Yoyo...

I think that the legion is one of the premiere fighting forces in the world. They train to fight, and fight to win. There are precious few armies left that view things that way. I was simply commenting on the fact that if somebody joins simply to get their citizenship, thay may well be in for a rude awakening. A true desire to make the profession of arms a way of life is necessary if you join.

On the upside, it's one hell of a french Immersion program. They'll have you speaking french like a native in no time at all.
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w squared wrote:......On the upside, it's one hell of a french Immersion program. They'll have you speaking french like a native in no time at all.

speaking french like a native ?...in your dreams my friend !!!!! unless you were taught the language as a young kid....you'll never, ever get it right ! and I'm talking about the french from france !
As for the mentality, it's special......unique............magic !!!!

I grew to love it & hate it at the same time.......go figure !


My regards.......from a French Citizen !
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I am speaking for myself. I had the advantage of learning it as a child in Montreal, and I'll tell you right now that French french is far easier for an anglophone to learn than Quebecois french. With the proper motivation (corporal punishment can be an incredible motivator when delivered by a 220 pound paratrooper) and total immersion, you WILL learn.

If you doubt me, just join the legion...they combine their language instruction with their "attitude adjustment" training.
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...me joining the French Legion ? no thanks !
By the way,...............I don't need to learn French, I too learned it since day one............
Good luck with your project anyway...............I didn't know you were french canadian..........france day to day is still quite different from the life in Montreal .....as you probably noticed already.
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Oh, I wouldn't describe myself as French Canadian.

I'm an anglophone Quebecios that just happens to speak French with a full-on montreal accent. :shock:

We should see what BD has to say about this debate, after all that ttime he spent in Dans-ton-cu, France. :lol:
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