Brace for Impact The Cheley B. Sullenberger Story

[niss]

Sunday January 10 2100h TLC

http://tlc.discovery.com/tv/brace-for-i ... -brace-1-6

[Old fella]

Sunday January 10 2100h TLC

http://tlc.discovery.com/tv/brace-for-i ... -brace-1-6

It is the opinion of this old goat that Cheley B. Sullenberger is milking this for all it is worth. Wasn't there a book comming out and guest appearences on Oprah.........

[Nark]

It is the opinion of this old goat that Cheley B. Sullenberger is milking this for all it is worth.

So he's not only a qualified pilot, but a smart one as well...

[High Flyin]

Sunday January 10 2100h TLC

http://tlc.discovery.com/tv/brace-for-i ... -brace-1-6

It is the opinion of this old goat that Cheley B. Sullenberger is milking this for all it is worth. Wasn't there a book comming out and guest appearences on Oprah.........

+1. This whole thing is getting really old. What pisses me off though is he wasn't the only in on the flightdeck. What about the efffing co-pilot????

[niss]

Sunday January 10 2100h TLC

http://tlc.discovery.com/tv/brace-for-i ... -brace-1-6

It is the opinion of this old goat that Cheley B. Sullenberger is milking this for all it is worth. Wasn't there a book comming out and guest appearences on Oprah.........

+1. This whole thing is getting really old. What pisses me off though is he wasn't the only in on the flightdeck. What about the efffing co-pilot????

Didn't he just piss himself and cry? I mean, if he did anything useful wouldn't he be a pilot not a co-pilot?

[Old fella]

It is the opinion of this old goat that Cheley B. Sullenberger is milking this for all it is worth.

So he's not only a qualified pilot, but a smart one as well...

No doubt he is..... on both accounts. However, whatever he is selling and/or peddling, he won’t make a nickel from me as I shan’t be making any contributions to his coffers!!

[Nark]

It's not "his" story that impresses me, its how he has a soapbox on which to stand and he is using it to our advantage. Highlighting the crappy wages/working conditions modern airline pilots work with. The diminishing standards etc...

By the way he doesn't take anything away from Jeff Skiles (sp?) or the crew.

Old fella I see your point, he did what many have done before without recognition.

[whiteguy]

Didn't he just piss himself and cry? I mean, if he did anything useful wouldn't he be a pilot not a co-pilot?

Its funny because he actually has more time than Sully and his 4 day pairing with Sully was his first pairing after line in doc on the Airbus. Prior to that he was Capt on the B737 but downgraded to FO because of cut backs.

[kevinsky18]

It's not "his" story that impresses me, its how he has a soapbox on which to stand and he is using it to our advantage. Highlighting the crappy wages/working conditions modern airline pilots work with. The diminishing standards etc...

+1

[. ._]

Hey, if your pension got cut, wouldn't you do something to boost it up if you could?

I would- well, if I ever get a job that pays a pension.

-istp

[the goal is soul]

He presents himself as very humble, and well spoken. In his book, he addresses the fact that he had to accept that the attention of the event was/is meaningful to a lot of other people, and he bears some obligation to represent that well.

(I think that most of the people who've read the book would agree that it likely wasn't him who called up TLC and asked to have them do a TV special about him.)

I thought it was really impressive the way the book touches on things that probably a lot of pilots agree with and feel similarly to, but can't express quite as well. As a younger person starting out in flying, you're not always surrounded by maturity and professionalism. He speaks a lot about his duty to be prepared, his responsibility to his passengers and to the other crew members...it was really good to read.

The last few chapters are even a little 'emotional'. The last chapter is attached below if you find yourself with 20 mins, and I absolutely recommend picking it up.

Sullenberger on Jon Stewart: http://watch.thecomedynetwork.ca/the-da ... clip223754

[C-FABH]

It's not "his" story that impresses me, its how he has a soapbox on which to stand and he is using it to our advantage. Highlighting the crappy wages/working conditions modern airline pilots work with. The diminishing standards etc...

How dare he... he should really just get over his 15 minutes of fame and stop whining

[Meatservo]

I can see why you might believe he's milking it for all it's worth. I look at it a different way though. He seems to be a well spoken and intelligent man, and he is spreading a message we should all approve of. The public wants to read about his adventure in the river, whether any of us could have pulled off the same feat is irrelevant, he is the guy that either had the good or bad fortune (depending on how you look at it) of being the key player in such a high profile situation. And he done good. I think he's doing the book and TV stuff because people want him to. It's a good story anyway. It gets depressing reading about and experiencing low wages, decreasing self esteem, decreasing training quality, decreasing skill and experience levels, drunk pilots, pilots who mysteriously fly right past the place they're supposed to land, pilots who are too tired and too poor to be able to focus on their jobs, the marginalization of our status in society and in our own companies. You'd think it would be enjoyable to read about someone who captured the attention of the media and the public by displaying even a little skill, integrity, and intelligence in front of the world, and now taking the opportunity to parlay his fifteen minutes of fame into an open air discussion of the problems being experienced by pilots.

[Pavese]

Didn't he just piss himself and cry? I mean, if he did anything useful wouldn't he be a pilot not a co-pilot?

Its funny because he actually has more time than Sully and his 4 day pairing with Sully was his first pairing after line in doc on the Airbus. Prior to that he was Capt on the B737 but downgraded to FO because of cut backs.

I attended both of the talks Sully & Skiles gave at Oshkosh and the point about Skiles being the F.O. was one of the things they talked about. Niss, you're right on about the F.O. and cutbacks thing and Sully made a point of talking to that, saying Skiles was a F.O. because of the circumstances not his abilities. He made a clear point that it was a team effort and that Skiles was a big part.

I knew about as much as the man in the street until going to these talks and these guys shared a lot with an aviation "in" crowd those days. One of the interesting things was the decision making about who was flying and who was doing the rest. Sully said one big reason he took control was that he was more familiar with the Airbus at the time but Skiles, since he had just come off the conversion course was fresh on the emergency procedures and manuals. Lots of good insight like that.

Lots of funny anecdotes like the time Skiles was in the elevator with an older looking captain and some guy turned to the captain and asked him if he was Sully. They captain said, no, but that's Skiles. The guy looked at Skiles for a minute and then back at the captain and said, ...funny, you really look like Sully!

Even if they were flying together for the first time that day, they're actually a terrific partnership, great working chemistry and very funny. Everyone was on the edge of their seats and would have listened to them talk all day if they could have stayed.

D

[atpl53]

This has been a reminder to me: We need to try to do the right thing every time, to perform at our best, because we never know which moment in our lives we’ll be judged on.

+1

Dan

[N2]

[shannon]

This guy did it right and has been a class act all the way.

Whereas other recent events in aviation have shown that some pilots have not done it right and as a result have damaged the reputation of pilots and killed quite a few people.

He is the model that pilots should aspire to be in my opinion and has done a great deal to help.

[niss]

This guy did it right and has been a class act all the way.

Whereas other recent events in aviation have shown that some pilots have not done it right and as a result have damaged the reputation of pilots and killed quite a few people.

He is the model that pilots should aspire to be in my opinion and has done a great deal to help.

Not wanting to belittle the mans achievement by any means but he got lucky. This was one situation that could have easily gone the other way regardless of skill.

Sully seems to be a class act and a skilled stick but there are many boxes filled with more than capable pilots who just didn't have the luck he did.

[cyxe]

It is the opinion of this old goat that Cheley B. Sullenberger is milking this for all it is worth.

So he's not only a qualified pilot, but a smart one as well...

No doubt he is..... on both accounts. However, whatever he is selling and/or peddling, he won’t make a nickel from me as I shan’t be making any contributions to his coffers!!

Do you believe he is responsible for most of the publicity he gets? I highly doubt he called up TLC and said I want to do a show, pay me.

If there's any milking going on it aint from him - its the publishers, broadcasters, and media looking to cash in.

[ktcanuck]

This is a fine general interest program about a fine man's achievement.

[railroad]

Why do so many people feel the need to bash anybody who gets a little good publicity? Are people afraid that they can't perform to the same standards to rise up, so they just try and drag others back down?

Old goat. If you are as old as you let on, you should have grown up to be a man by now.

It seems more often, pilots are in the news for negative reasons, giving fire to every executive that says we are overpaid and underworked. It feeds the myth held by every smug-ass joe public who thinks we are glorified button pushers who could all be replaced by computers.

Scully, Skiles and the rest of the cabin crew as a team are solely responsible for saving 155 lives. End of story or bottom line, that is the way it is.

And to niss, we all depend on a little bit of luck sometimes; However, that crew is a highly trained, skilled, experienced and professional crew, and that is why it tuned out the way it did. Take your luck and go play somewhere else.

[KAG]

Niss, here’s another way to look at it.
Yes there was a lot of luck involved: He was unlucky to hit those birds. He was unlucky to have those birds take out his engines. He was lucky it happened over water instead of over the concrete jungle. It was all skill to put that plane down the way he did. He (and the pax) were lucky to have a crew of professionals on board.

We as a pilot group are lucky to have a man who holds the lime light; be standing on his soap box trying to make positive change.

[niss]

DP

[niss]

Niss, here’s another way to look at it.
Yes there was a lot of luck involved: He was unlucky to hit those birds. He was unlucky to have those birds take out his engines. He was lucky it happened over water instead of over the concrete jungle. It was all skill to put that plane down the way he did. He (and the pax) were lucky to have a crew of professionals on board.

We as a pilot group are lucky to have a man who holds the lime light; be standing on his soap box trying to make positive change.

My whole point is that it aside from the obvious the whole thing played out perfectly, and had the whole thing happened at 10' less or any other variable it could have easily gone the other way. They were all incredibly lucky that it happened the way it did.

I just think it wasn't their day to die.

[iflyforpie]

It was all skill to put that plane down the way he did. He (and the pax) were lucky to have a crew of professionals on board.

Maybe skill that he handled the plane precisely, but sheer luck that it landed intact. I'm pretty sure Sully had no idea how the water landing was going to turn out...