Shortest Time to Solo

[Bede]

Question for you instructors: What is the lowest time you have sent someone solo in?

My answer: 5.5hrs. The guy flew once a week. Absolutely incredible- had to help him on one landing throughout the whole pre solo stage. I probably could have sent him solo in about 4, but did an extra flight to make sure it wasn't a fluke. Unfortunately, the guy had a family and couldn't afford any more flying so he had to quite.

[razorblade]

One of my air cadets - 7.5 or something.
He passed his PPL flight test at 41 hrs too. I had to send him for 2 more hours of aimless sightseeing so he could get his license signed off.

[cgzro]

I took 8 hours to solo a tail dragger (Jodel) on a grass strip at 15 but it had pretty much a stick, rudder pedals, ASI and altimeter and there was very little traffic on a huge grass strip so pretty simple. Instructor was an ex French Mirage pilot .. with a Texas-French accent if you can imagine that .. good times

Peter

[Big Pistons Forever]

How fast you solo is an utterly useless metric. The hard part in flying is not flying one circuit with the approval of, and under the watchfull eye of your instructor in close to perfect conditions, it is making the important in flight decisions all by yourself, including the most important one....when not to continue with your ftakeoff/flight/landing. How early you solo is IMO a poor predictor of the core PDM skills that make good pilots.

[Strega]

using this word

metric

with respect to anything in aviation is utterly useless.

[modi13]

using this word

metric

with respect to anything in aviation is utterly useless.

Not in Europe.

[Invertago]

I took 20 hours to solo, but that was only because my big penis kept getting caught in the rudder peddles, had to solve the problem by upgrading me to a C182 which worked out just fine.


Why the rush to solo, is there a prize?

Also, if you're learning to fly for fun, does it matter if you enjoy the process and take more then 45?

[CanterburyTail]

Did my first solo yesterday. 22.6 hours. I had a four month break near the beginning of my training, and the weather stopped us doing spin training for quite some time.

[Bede]

I took 20 hours to solo, but that was only because my big penis kept getting caught in the rudder peddles, had to solve the problem by upgrading me to a C182 which worked out just fine.


Why the rush to solo, is there a prize?

Also, if you're learning to fly for fun, does it matter if you enjoy the process and take more then 45?

Yes there is a prize. It's called not spending $20K for a PPL.

This thread was intended for instructors to share stories about they're best students and to see how little training some people actually needed before being safe to take off and land an airplane one time. It was not intended to be a penis size comparing contest.

[Tango01]

Just cause you take a while to solo, does not mean you will spend $20K on your PPL. As mentioned, I don't think when you solo makes any difference. There are too many variables to take into account.

[Shiny Side Up]

This thread was intended for instructors to share stories about they're best students and to see how little training some people actually needed before being safe to take off and land an airplane one time. It was not intended to be a penis size comparing contest.

It is however just as irrelevant as one. The time to solo often has no bearing on how good of a pilot the student ends up being, nor is it indicative of how easy they were to train. For example, the shortest time I think I soloed a student in was about 9.5 hours - That student however had previous experience (had been flying in small planes with their father for as long as they could remember) so really 9.5 hours was the logbook learning time he had when he did his first circuit by himself.

If anything I find these discussions more harmful than good. Any time pilots start thinking about their hours in the logbook over how well they perform in the airplane its nearly always detrimental to their performance in the airplane.

I know of a few pilots who have no official logbook hours of instruction time and can take off and land aeroplanes, I also have a strong suspicion there's a few who have been off by themselves without any instruction time period. One could say these pilots have been solo in zero hours. Have they won the competition?

[Invertago]

I came across a guy who bought his own C182, read the POH and soloed himself. He wasn't exactly 0 hours, as a few years prior he had gone up in a C172 for a half dozen hours. Good thing Cessna makes a tough forgiving aircraft!

All in all, I think this whole industry puts way too much emphasis on "Hours" as the mark of ones ability, be it how fast you learn or how much "experience" you have for a job. 500hrs instructing in the circuit you'll be good at saving students from bad landings, but won't have much of an IFR background. 500 hours sitting right seat HO between the same two airports in the lower-mainland, won't do much to prepare you for dropping skydivers either. Hours are over rated.


PS. Looking for a job, I've got 1529.3293 hours TT in a 1975 Cessna 172M model with blue paint!

[niss]

PS. Looking for a job, I've got 1529.3293 hours TT in a 1975 Cessna 172M model with blue paint!

Sorry, I'm only hiring pilots for a 172M with red paint. If you have the $ I could sell you a PPC.

[iflyforpie]

I fly one with a red stripe and I'll work for half the wage Invertago wants.

I took a bit longer to solo (18 hrs IIRC, but working full time and paying cash might have had something to do with it), but I completed my CPL at exactly 200 hours with a Group 1 IFR.

Most students who start off with golden hands and feet will plateau or struggle with things like ballooning or bouncing (eventually happens to everybody) because of their lack of exposure. As long as the end product is safe, who cares about the hours?

[Shiny Side Up]

PS. Looking for a job, I've got 1529.3293 hours TT in a 1975 Cessna 172M model with blue paint!

Sorry, I'm only hiring pilots for a 172M with red paint. If you have the $ I could sell you a PPC.

This would be funnier if I hadn't encountered pilots who were serious about how much difference the paint color affects the airplane's flight characteristics.

[niss]

PS. Looking for a job, I've got 1529.3293 hours TT in a 1975 Cessna 172M model with blue paint!

Sorry, I'm only hiring pilots for a 172M with red paint. If you have the $ I could sell you a PPC.

This would be funnier if I hadn't encountered pilots who were serious about how much difference the paint color affects the airplane's flight characteristics.

It's perfectly logical, an a/c with more dark colours absorbs more solar radiation, when it heats up it expands, when it expands it has a bigger profile and drag increases, all this more than a light airplane.

Why do you think UBC is all white? And it isn't just because I can't afford a new paint job!

[Tango01]

Oh so that's why we fly dark coloured aircraft at night!

[Invertago]

PS. Looking for a job, I've got 1529.3293 hours TT in a 1975 Cessna 172M model with blue paint!

Sorry, I'm only hiring pilots for a 172M with red paint. If you have the $ I could sell you a PPC.

This would be funnier if I hadn't encountered pilots who were serious about how much difference the paint color affects the airplane's flight characteristics.

Red cars are faster, so I assume it applies to aircraft also right? Thats why sports cars are often red

[jeff_w_yeg]

Question for you instructors: What is the lowest time you have sent someone solo in?

My answer: 5.5hrs. The guy flew once a week. Absolutely incredible- had to help him on one landing throughout the whole pre solo stage. I probably could have sent him solo in about 4, but did an extra flight to make sure it wasn't a fluke. Unfortunately, the guy had a family and couldn't afford any more flying so he had to quite.

As a Student, I can tell you this: I'm at 12.7 hours in a C172 and don't feel ready to go solo yet. And unfortunately, I'm heading into "taking a break" (due to some financial constraints). It's unfortunate and I'm really disappointed that I'm taking a break, but I also enjoy eating and putting gas into my car...lol.

Jeff @ YEG

[shitdisturber]

Question for you instructors: What is the lowest time you have sent someone solo in?

My answer: 5.5hrs. The guy flew once a week. Absolutely incredible- had to help him on one landing throughout the whole pre solo stage. I probably could have sent him solo in about 4, but did an extra flight to make sure it wasn't a fluke. Unfortunately, the guy had a family and couldn't afford any more flying so he had to quite.

As a Student, I can tell you this: I'm at 12.7 hours in a C172 and don't feel ready to go solo yet. And unfortunately, I'm heading into "taking a break" (due to some financial constraints). It's unfortunate and I'm really disappointed that I'm taking a break, but I also enjoy eating and putting gas into my car...lol.

Jeff @ YEG

Eating is highly over rated.