Sending out resumes? Read this!
Moderators: sky's the limit, sepia, Sulako, lilfssister, North Shore, I WAS Birddog
Sending out resumes? Read this!
Just a quick note to the kids shooting off resumes these days.
Please have someone proof read whatever it is that you are emailing/faxing to the airlines...
When I see a couple of pages (yes a COUPLE, I don't want your autobiography, just the important stuff and even Juan Trippe would be able to fit his highlights in a COUPLE of pages) without meeting the individual, it's all that I have to go by, typos, wrong name of CP, or kinkysomething69@hotmail as your contact addy lead me to believe that you're not someone that is worth taking a chance and wasting time in an interview with.
I believe xsbank had a really good resume writing thread a couple of years ago, if someone could dig it up and post a link in a reply it would help a lot of folks that have to read them.
Best of luck in 2010 to all!
BP
Please have someone proof read whatever it is that you are emailing/faxing to the airlines...
When I see a couple of pages (yes a COUPLE, I don't want your autobiography, just the important stuff and even Juan Trippe would be able to fit his highlights in a COUPLE of pages) without meeting the individual, it's all that I have to go by, typos, wrong name of CP, or kinkysomething69@hotmail as your contact addy lead me to believe that you're not someone that is worth taking a chance and wasting time in an interview with.
I believe xsbank had a really good resume writing thread a couple of years ago, if someone could dig it up and post a link in a reply it would help a lot of folks that have to read them.
Best of luck in 2010 to all!
BP
- kevinsky18
- Rank 5

- Posts: 360
- Joined: Wed Oct 29, 2008 10:01 am
Re: Sending out resumes? Read this!
It must be that time of year. I'm starting to get a bunch.
My preferences
1) If you're a 200hr wonder your resume shouldn't be more than 1 page. If it is expect I won't get to the second page so you better say what's important on the first.
2) Don't try and dress it up to make it look bigger, fatter, more experienced etc you're not fooling anyone.
- I got a resume yesterday where the guy listed everything he studied in ground school, air law, navigation etc. . . If you got a licence I know what you studied.
3) Spell out your times clearly and at the beginning of the resume. Don't try and be coy if you're applying on a 180 float job. In other words don't just say you have 180 time. Spell it out, is it wheels, ski or float time and how much of each. I assume if a person doesn't spell it out then they have nothing that I'm interested in.
4) Don't go on about how much you want to be a pilot, we know.
5) Mention other skill sets but don't spend 3/4 of your resume detailing them. Aviation should be 3/4 of your resume and other skills if you have them and they are relevant not more than 1/4. Even if that means your resume is 1 page or even 1/2 a page.
6) Don't spam e-mail your resume, spend time to learn a bit about each employer and include their company name in the resume before hitting the send button (got a resume this morning were a "college graduate" called me YYY company instead of XXX company).
7) I have a fair bit more respect for a resume that says something along the lines of I see you operate XYZ type aircraft I have a) Experience on that aircraft. B) I have experience on similar aircraft. c) I have no experience on that aircraft but I'm willing to learn. Even if you have no experience I at least know you took the time to read through my site and learn about my company. BTW actually read the company web site don't assume those pilot job banks have all the details correct. Nothing makes you look silly like saying I see your company flies XXX aircraft when in fact the company flies YYY aircraft.
*** If your resume is only a half page but clear concise and honest it will carry far more weight with we me than a 2 page manifesto.
My 2 cents. But every employer is different so again tailor your resume.
My preferences
1) If you're a 200hr wonder your resume shouldn't be more than 1 page. If it is expect I won't get to the second page so you better say what's important on the first.
2) Don't try and dress it up to make it look bigger, fatter, more experienced etc you're not fooling anyone.
- I got a resume yesterday where the guy listed everything he studied in ground school, air law, navigation etc. . . If you got a licence I know what you studied.
3) Spell out your times clearly and at the beginning of the resume. Don't try and be coy if you're applying on a 180 float job. In other words don't just say you have 180 time. Spell it out, is it wheels, ski or float time and how much of each. I assume if a person doesn't spell it out then they have nothing that I'm interested in.
4) Don't go on about how much you want to be a pilot, we know.
5) Mention other skill sets but don't spend 3/4 of your resume detailing them. Aviation should be 3/4 of your resume and other skills if you have them and they are relevant not more than 1/4. Even if that means your resume is 1 page or even 1/2 a page.
6) Don't spam e-mail your resume, spend time to learn a bit about each employer and include their company name in the resume before hitting the send button (got a resume this morning were a "college graduate" called me YYY company instead of XXX company).
7) I have a fair bit more respect for a resume that says something along the lines of I see you operate XYZ type aircraft I have a) Experience on that aircraft. B) I have experience on similar aircraft. c) I have no experience on that aircraft but I'm willing to learn. Even if you have no experience I at least know you took the time to read through my site and learn about my company. BTW actually read the company web site don't assume those pilot job banks have all the details correct. Nothing makes you look silly like saying I see your company flies XXX aircraft when in fact the company flies YYY aircraft.
*** If your resume is only a half page but clear concise and honest it will carry far more weight with we me than a 2 page manifesto.
My 2 cents. But every employer is different so again tailor your resume.
-
flyincanuck
- Rank 8

- Posts: 975
- Joined: Tue Jan 04, 2005 5:27 am
Re: Sending out resumes? Read this!
Johnny#5 wrote:There's no excuse for bad speling.
Re: Sending out resumes? Read this!
Always print your resumes on "cloud" paper, in the smallest "Old English" font. Always include a photo of yourself, either in a tight mini, or a Speedo.
Don't leave out your Church group, 4H Club membership info, and your preference for blonds or red heads.
When you show up for an interview, wear a really big watch and sunglasses. Chief Pilots really dig that. Oh, and find a Captain's uniform to wear. Borrow or rent one. Appearance goes a long way. In a uniform, a Chief Pilot can really see what he's getting.
Show up in an upscale car. At least a BMW 5 Series. You must learn to look like you don't NEED a job.
If it's a float job, wear something from The Banana Republic or, at least a loose fitting Hawaiian shirt and sandals. Surfer shorts work best here.
And, most important....tell them..."Doc sent me...."
Don't leave out your Church group, 4H Club membership info, and your preference for blonds or red heads.
When you show up for an interview, wear a really big watch and sunglasses. Chief Pilots really dig that. Oh, and find a Captain's uniform to wear. Borrow or rent one. Appearance goes a long way. In a uniform, a Chief Pilot can really see what he's getting.
Show up in an upscale car. At least a BMW 5 Series. You must learn to look like you don't NEED a job.
If it's a float job, wear something from The Banana Republic or, at least a loose fitting Hawaiian shirt and sandals. Surfer shorts work best here.
And, most important....tell them..."Doc sent me...."
-
toelessjoe
- Rank 5

- Posts: 329
- Joined: Fri Mar 13, 2009 12:54 pm
Re: Sending out resumes? Read this!
I see you've received an updated copy of my CV.Doc wrote:Always print your resumes on "cloud" paper, in the smallest "Old English" font. Always include a photo of yourself, either in a tight mini, or a Speedo.
Don't leave out your Church group, 4H Club membership info, and your preference for blonds or red heads.
When you show up for an interview, wear a really big watch and sunglasses. Chief Pilots really dig that. Oh, and find a Captain's uniform to wear. Borrow or rent one. Appearance goes a long way. In a uniform, a Chief Pilot can really see what he's getting.
Show up in an upscale car. At least a BMW 5 Series. You must learn to look like you don't NEED a job.
If it's a float job, wear something from The Banana Republic or, at least a loose fitting Hawaiian shirt and sandals. Surfer shorts work best here.
And, most important....tell them..."Doc sent me...."
Be careful Doc, by telling people your company uniform you run the risk of identifying yourself to the world
Re: Sending out resumes? Read this!
Does that include looking up there best photos and comments on facebook? Because that, of course, would be morally wrong. After all, just because your potential candidate has a picture of himself dry-humping a Labrador retriever while wearing a white tee-shirt with "NO FAT CHICKS!" emblazoned across the front and holding a smoking bong in the shape of a huge phallus, doesn't make him any less suitable for representing your company on a Monday morning than the person with the email address you mention.Big Pratt wrote:....it's all that I have to go by, typos, wrong name of CP, or kinkysomething69@hotmail as your contact addy lead me to believe that you're not someone that is worth taking a chance and wasting time in an interview with.
BP
Re: Sending out resumes? Read this!
my uncle tells the story when he had just become a new Cheif Pilot, a ''ex' employee pilot showed up looking for a chat to get rehired.
The guy was about 40. He had not shaved for about a week, wore a grezy ball cap, dirty cloths and wore sunglasses the whole time even thoh there were no windows. he spent the whole time talking about what a lousy company it was.
what a pro.
The guy was about 40. He had not shaved for about a week, wore a grezy ball cap, dirty cloths and wore sunglasses the whole time even thoh there were no windows. he spent the whole time talking about what a lousy company it was.
what a pro.
Re: Sending out resumes? Read this!
OK so since you're all too lazy to look it up...Big Pratt wrote: I believe xsbank had a really good resume writing thread a couple of years ago, if someone could dig it up and post a link in a reply it would help a lot of folks that have to read them.
BP
viewtopic.php?f=54&t=13539
viewtopic.php?f=13&t=47666
If you're in the job hunting phase, READ BOTH topics before you send another resume!
It would suck to be passed on just because you can't be bothered to have a proper one.
BP
Re: Sending out resumes? Read this!
We'll refer that question to BoostedNihilist.Kilo-Kilo wrote:Does that include looking up there best photos and comments on facebook? Because that, of course, would be morally wrong. After all, just because your potential candidate has a picture of himself dry-humping a Labrador retriever while wearing a white tee-shirt with "NO FAT CHICKS!" emblazoned across the front and holding a smoking bong in the shape of a huge phallus, doesn't make him any less suitable for representing your company on a Monday morning than the person with the email address you mention.Big Pratt wrote:....it's all that I have to go by, typos, wrong name of CP, or kinkysomething69@hotmail as your contact addy lead me to believe that you're not someone that is worth taking a chance and wasting time in an interview with.
BP
Re: Sending out resumes? Read this!
Big Pratt wrote:OK so since you're all too lazy to look it up...Big Pratt wrote: I believe xsbank had a really good resume writing thread a couple of years ago, if someone could dig it up and post a link in a reply it would help a lot of folks that have to read them.
BP
If you had been another hour or so, I would have posted the link to xsbank's. Honestly, his is pretty good. I hadn't run across Sulako's before, so I shall have to have a read through it. Thanks for the link.
Gravity lands us, we just make it look good.
Re: Sending out resumes? Read this!
Another good thing to do is to fill the envelope with sparkly confetti, so when the depressed CP pulls out your CV, they are covered with a pleasant surprise. Bringing joy into their lives; you will be hired for sure 
Re: Sending out resumes? Read this!
No. However, if a candidate is driving a dirty car it may be a very good reason for not hiring him/her.....it's all that I have to go by, typos, wrong name of CP, or kinkysomething69@hotmail as your contact addy lead me to believe that you're not someone that is worth taking a chance and wasting time in an interview with.
BP
Does that include looking up there best photos and comments on facebook? Because that, of course, would be morally wrong. After all, just because your potential candidate has a picture of himself dry-humping a Labrador retriever while wearing a white tee-shirt with "NO FAT CHICKS!" emblazoned across the front and holding a smoking bong in the shape of a huge phallus, doesn't make him any less suitable for representing your company on a Monday morning than the person with the email address you mention.
You can interpret that however you would like.
-
BoostedNihilist
Re: Sending out resumes? Read this!
Come on now.. your expectations might be a tad unrealistic...6) Don't spam e-mail your resume, spend time to learn a bit about each employer and include their company name in the resume before hitting the send button (got a resume this morning were a "college graduate" called me YYY company instead of XXX company).
-
BoostedNihilist
Re: Sending out resumes? Read this!
There: where you are going or where you have been, or where something exists. example: that labrador retriever over there looks pretty hot.. I'm going to put on my no fat chicks shirt and go over there.Does that include looking up there best photos and comments on facebook? Because that, of course, would be morally wrong. After all, just because your potential candidate has a picture of himself dry-humping a Labrador retriever while wearing a white tee-shirt with "NO FAT CHICKS!" emblazoned across the front and holding a smoking bong in the shape of a huge phallus, doesn't make him any less suitable for representing your company on a Monday morning than the person with the email address you mention.
Their: a form of the possessive case of they used as an attributive adjective, before a noun: The people who cannot use the correct words in the correct places really show their ignorance.. or their facebook photos make them look cooler than me..
They're.. a conjunction of they and are.. used to describe someone, or something in a simpler format. Example: They're smarter than you if they know which (note, not witch) there to use.
-
Meatservo
- Rank 10

- Posts: 2581
- Joined: Wed Mar 16, 2005 11:07 pm
- Location: Negative sequencial vortex
Re: Sending out resumes? Read this!
Heh-heh. 
If I'd known I was going to live this long, I'd have taken better care of myself
Re: Sending out resumes? Read this!
eye mis-spelt they're.
What's worse for me is that I saw the typo and as I was scrolling down before correcting it, to my horror saw that my error had already been exposed.
-What's that in my mouth? Tastes like crow!
I'll leave the post unedited as a reminder to myself that blah, blah, blah... something witty....blah, blah...
What's worse for me is that I saw the typo and as I was scrolling down before correcting it, to my horror saw that my error had already been exposed.
-What's that in my mouth? Tastes like crow!
I'll leave the post unedited as a reminder to myself that blah, blah, blah... something witty....blah, blah...
Re: Sending out resumes? Read this!
Great advice, but honestly we need these people that can't spell and can't figure out which company they are sending it too. Makes picking out a good one so much easier.
Keep up the crappy work boys and girls!
Keep up the crappy work boys and girls!
-
ScudRunner
- Rank 11

- Posts: 3239
- Joined: Tue Jun 08, 2004 11:58 am
Re: Sending out resumes? Read this!
I wish I had kept a copy of this guys resume he stated he would work for free up to six month, and included a picture of him leaning on a beaver of which he never had flown or even had a float rating.
I think the guy was from Taiwan and included just for trivia sake that he was only here on a student Visa expiring in six months. Anyone else get this resume a few years ago last I saw it was tacked up on the notice board in the hanger with some observational remarks on it.
I think the guy was from Taiwan and included just for trivia sake that he was only here on a student Visa expiring in six months. Anyone else get this resume a few years ago last I saw it was tacked up on the notice board in the hanger with some observational remarks on it.
Re: Sending out resumes? Read this!
Good stuff! (I'm scribbling these FINE ideas on my list....)
I have a friend who is CP for a busy helicopter company in the states. He could write a BOOK on the resumes he receives -- all the above examples, and more.
He even said a few were so bad, that he's called those guys in to his office, just to SEE what the hell the deal was. On top of the lack of spelling, the need for a shave, the dirty clothes and BO, he said the finer specimens also flagrantly lie about all their helicopter time.... apparently the term "longline", once planted in a newbie's head, immediately adds 3,000 hours to a hopeful's TT.
He's just incredulous when he has to deal with hiring -- but I'm going to tell him that GOOD point someone brought up above: that having so many awful ones does make the good ones stand out.
Now, THAT'S a Glass-Half-Full Outlook........

I have a friend who is CP for a busy helicopter company in the states. He could write a BOOK on the resumes he receives -- all the above examples, and more.
He even said a few were so bad, that he's called those guys in to his office, just to SEE what the hell the deal was. On top of the lack of spelling, the need for a shave, the dirty clothes and BO, he said the finer specimens also flagrantly lie about all their helicopter time.... apparently the term "longline", once planted in a newbie's head, immediately adds 3,000 hours to a hopeful's TT.
He's just incredulous when he has to deal with hiring -- but I'm going to tell him that GOOD point someone brought up above: that having so many awful ones does make the good ones stand out.
Now, THAT'S a Glass-Half-Full Outlook........
Last edited by Cougar on Mon Jan 18, 2010 8:30 pm, edited 1 time in total.
-
Hornblower
- Rank 7

- Posts: 686
- Joined: Sat Jan 08, 2005 6:58 am
Re: Sending out resumes? Read this!
HahahaBoostedNihilist wrote:They're.. a conjunction of they and are.
Actually it's a contraction; a conjunction is something else entirely.
-
BoostedNihilist
Re: Sending out resumes? Read this!
lol, you're right
been lots of years since i've been to highschool 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mkO87mkgcNo
Avcanada needs a youtube inbed hack
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mkO87mkgcNo
Avcanada needs a youtube inbed hack
Last edited by BoostedNihilist on Mon Jan 18, 2010 8:36 pm, edited 1 time in total.
-
Hornblower
- Rank 7

- Posts: 686
- Joined: Sat Jan 08, 2005 6:58 am
Re: Sending out resumes? Read this!
LOL. I just got a kick out of people correcting other's spelling and whatnot with their own mistakes. But all the tips on résumé writing are spot on, with the exception of nobody being able to spell the actual word "résumé". Resume is a a word that means "to start again" or something like that, ... and it rhymes with boom.
Try Alt+130
All good fun though.
Try Alt+130
All good fun though.
-
BoostedNihilist
Re: Sending out resumes? Read this!
Me as well, you better watch your back boy.. nobodies immune to this stuff... i'm on you like stink on a hippie.LOL. I just got a kick out of people correcting other's spelling and whatnot with their own mistakes.





