One of my first instructors was Marion Orr, she was a truly great pilot and made the Canadian hall of fame.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8D5DMDgdkGg
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The hardest thing about flying is knowing when to say no
After over a half a century of flying no one ever died because of my decision not to fly.
After over a half a century of flying no one ever died because of my decision not to fly.
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Thanks for the link, Mister C. Driver!!
Cool video. I'd love to hear some of her stories... that's so neat you had her for an instructor. There sure were some amazing people who were the strength of aviation in those days.
And I'm sure you have the stories, too. I'd bring the beer...
Cool video. I'd love to hear some of her stories... that's so neat you had her for an instructor. There sure were some amazing people who were the strength of aviation in those days.
And I'm sure you have the stories, too. I'd bring the beer...
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Yes I was fortunate to have had her for an instructor, she was teaching at Barker field in Toronto at the time.Cool video. I'd love to hear some of her stories... that's so neat you had her for an instructor.
That can be a touchy subject here on Avcanada, if you read this forum long enough you will soon discover that us older pilots are held in contempt by a lot of the aces who have not been flying as long as we have.
There sure were some amazing people who were the strength of aviation in those days.
In fact I have quit posting on Avcanada several times just to take a break from all the know it all aces who never miss a chance to demean those of us who are only guilty of having lived to long in aviation and survived.
Young pilots with that sneering attitude towards their elders would have been culled from aviation back during the time Marion was teaching.
The hardest thing about flying is knowing when to say no
After over a half a century of flying no one ever died because of my decision not to fly.
After over a half a century of flying no one ever died because of my decision not to fly.
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CD, that's incredible! You must have some pretty amazing stories up your sleeve!
We need more instructors like that. Ones who are passionate about passing on the gift of handling an aircraft. I don't feel like I'm currently getting that - I feel like a piggy bank & an hour generator.
We need more instructors like that. Ones who are passionate about passing on the gift of handling an aircraft. I don't feel like I'm currently getting that - I feel like a piggy bank & an hour generator.
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Tainted, it has been many decades since I taught at the entry level of aviation.
Like most instructors I found out there just was not enough money in teaching flying at the FTU level so I just let my instructors rating expire ( 1965 ) and concentrated on flying that could support a family.
Teaching flying at the PPL / CPL level has always been some of the poorest paying of any aviation job, it stays that way because those in the drivers seat which are TC and a lot of the company owners are content with the status quo and have no intention of making changes.
Which leaves aspiring pilots stuck with swim or drown trying to get a foot hold in aviation.
Choose who you accept as an instructor carefully and you will be O.K.
I used to own a flight school about 25 years ago and did my best to try and improve the way flying training is managed.....I was fuc.ed from the start because TC's flight training management were totally uninterested in making any changes, which of course is understandable because if the industry were to have people with an IQ above the moron level working in the positions of decision making in TC flight training they would be out of a job.
Are you starting to understand why they do not exactly crave to be my friend?
There is money in teaching flying at the advanced level and I managed to build a business at that level toward the end of my career that paid at the level of a senior airline pilot for the time I spent teaching.
Generally I tried to fly 2.5 hours a day which paid me just over $1000.00 Canadian a day.
Like most instructors I found out there just was not enough money in teaching flying at the FTU level so I just let my instructors rating expire ( 1965 ) and concentrated on flying that could support a family.
Teaching flying at the PPL / CPL level has always been some of the poorest paying of any aviation job, it stays that way because those in the drivers seat which are TC and a lot of the company owners are content with the status quo and have no intention of making changes.
Which leaves aspiring pilots stuck with swim or drown trying to get a foot hold in aviation.
Choose who you accept as an instructor carefully and you will be O.K.
I used to own a flight school about 25 years ago and did my best to try and improve the way flying training is managed.....I was fuc.ed from the start because TC's flight training management were totally uninterested in making any changes, which of course is understandable because if the industry were to have people with an IQ above the moron level working in the positions of decision making in TC flight training they would be out of a job.
Are you starting to understand why they do not exactly crave to be my friend?
There is money in teaching flying at the advanced level and I managed to build a business at that level toward the end of my career that paid at the level of a senior airline pilot for the time I spent teaching.
Generally I tried to fly 2.5 hours a day which paid me just over $1000.00 Canadian a day.
The hardest thing about flying is knowing when to say no
After over a half a century of flying no one ever died because of my decision not to fly.
After over a half a century of flying no one ever died because of my decision not to fly.
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I guess I've been luckier than most, and have seen enough true aces to know you can do this for a lifetime, and the learning never, ever stops. I've tried to learn from everyone I meet in aviation, and yeah, sometimes it has been a case of learning what traits NOT to take with me.Cat Driver wrote: ....if you read this forum long enough you will soon discover that us older pilots are held in contempt by a lot of the aces who have not been flying as long as we have.
In fact I have quit posting on Avcanada several times just to take a break from all the know it all aces who never miss a chance to demean those of us who are only guilty of having lived to long in aviation and survived.
Young pilots with that sneering attitude towards their elders would have been culled from aviation back during the time Marion was teaching.
It was hammered into me from day one, that your attitude alone makes you who you are in the airplane.
I've seen guys who can't taxi straight brag about it, while the quiet ones over in the corner don't say boo, but can make an airplane fly like a dream. I know the ones I want to follow.
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Flying an aircraft be it fixed wing or even better rotary wing is an art form.
Humans are all wired differently and the true artists stand out for the simple reason that is just the way they are wired.
My benchmark has been Bob Hoover I always aimed get to that level.
Humans are all wired differently and the true artists stand out for the simple reason that is just the way they are wired.
My benchmark has been Bob Hoover I always aimed get to that level.
The hardest thing about flying is knowing when to say no
After over a half a century of flying no one ever died because of my decision not to fly.
After over a half a century of flying no one ever died because of my decision not to fly.
