EASA to Canadian AME

[Crey]

Hi all,

I'm new to the forum but hopefully you guys may be able to help me.

I'm considering at the moment a years working holiday in Canada. I'm not particularly worried about what type of work I do, but I have been wondering what the story would be with working in the aviation industry in Canada.

I've recently completed a 4 year aircraft mechanic apprenticeship (avionics) in Ireland and hope to have my EASA part 66 B2 license fairly shortly. I'm currently still in the MRO where I carried out my apprenticeship and my experience is all 727, 737, 757 and 767. I tried using the search function but didn't find anything on people with EASA qualifications looking for work in Canada, although some people looking to do the opposite.

So, basically I'm wondering if I were to like the place would my apprenticeship and license be worth anything when looking for an avionic job in Canada and what would be involved in getting the Canadian equivalent to the B2 for someone in my position.


Regards,
Crey

[canadian ame]

hey there eh! as i understand its hell to try and convert to a canadian licence, Transport Canada is very proud of them self,
Im sure if you came to canada for one year someone would hire you, if you can fix lazyonics snags and u dont need a licence so much because a canadain ame can over sign your work anyhoo.

just be sure to be sure u go and spend some time with the goofy newfees as they are the most fun when drinkin oh drink some screech, then head west to calgary and van, chase some canadian women as im sure they will love how yah speek.

[jetdoc]

I know of a couple of EU folks who came over to Canada and had very little trouble getting their qualifications recognized. THe trick is to find a job.

The easiest way to find out if your qualification will be accepted is to head into a Transport Canada office and sit down with an inspector and you will get an answer very quickly. Expect to have to put some time in and write and reg's exam.

Hope that helps.... wish it was that easy to go the other way!!

[Crey]

Hey canadian ame and jetdoc,

Thanks for the replies. In relation to the AME signing my work that'd be fine I wouldn't expect to be certifying anyway as I've no types I'll only just have my basic.

So is it different to here then. I notice an AME with M1 and M2 has automatically an E license where as here we've B1 then completely separate again we've the B2. So normally over here your either one or the other unless you decide to get both licenses, which can be common in line maintenance. In the Canadian maintenance facilitate however is there normally dedicated AME E guys for the lazionics or does the AME with the M1 and M2 generally cover avo and mechanical sign off.

just be sure to be sure u go and spend some time with the goofy newfees as they are the most fun when drinkin oh drink some screech, then head west to calgary and van, chase some canadian women as im sure they will love how yah speek.

You'll have to explain the goofy newfees And with regards to the voice... Possibly but as long as I make sure and keep a bit of a time gap between the drinking and the speaking

The easiest way to find out if your qualification will be accepted is to head into a Transport Canada office and sit down with an inspector and you will get an answer very quickly. Expect to have to put some time in and write and reg's exam.

That seems a fairly sensible approach alright not used to that kind of simplicity here Just on the guy's who got their qualification recognized does that mean issue of a TC license or just recognition of their EASA license?

wish it was that easy to go the other way!!

I must say I feel sorry for some of the guys that are in my company currently trying to get licensed guys who've years of experience certifying countless types and basically have to start from scratch with EASA.

[Grease Nipple]

Your license will not be recognized in Canada. What you have to do is prove training and experience. If your training is not TC approved you will have to show 5 yrs experience, if it is approved then 3 years. Once you have shown enough experience and training then you will have to write the exams. The exams shouldn't be a problem for you if you made it past the EASA exams, except maybe the Air Regs exam but there are study guides available for that.

Best of luck to you.

[Crey]

Thanks grease nipple, I'll have the 3yrs alright but not five. I'm mainly just enquiring anyway as to how it would work if I were getting on really well in Canada.

[29 ford]

Hi Crey and welcome aboard,

A Goofy Newfie is from Newfoundland, the most easterly province in Canada. They have been known to have and show a good time.

As for our licensing system it basically consists of 4 categories:

M1 - Mechanic on aircraft less than 12500lbs.

M2 - Mechanic on aircraft above 12500lbs

E - avionics

S - structures

and I forgot Balloons is another Category

Transport Canada will basically let you hold 2 ratings. It can be an M1 and an M2,or M1 and an E or any combination of the above. As for smaller outfits they for the most parts hire M guys because they can sign for just about anything except major mods or repairs ( Jack of all trades). With an E license your best chance of a job is with major airlines or an MRO.

If you can get the right to work in Canada, IMP Aerospace in Halifax will hire just about all they can get their hands on, and they have plenty of Goofy Newfies to show you a good time.

[billy ray valintine]

hey crey!

like snow? crap companies? how about bad pay? or maybe hi taxes?.....
bring you leprechaun,rainbow and the pot of gold with ya!
your gonna need it.

brv

[ME109]

Foreign applicants need to meet the same requirements as any Canadian trying to become an AME. Just because you hold a foreign licence does not automatically get you a Canadian licence without going through the usual hoops. This holds true for any Canadians trying to get an EASA licence as well. Go to the TC website and get yourself a copy of MSI 18, especially Appendix A & C. This explains how TC will review you for your licence. http://www.tc.gc.ca/civilaviation/maint ... msi_18.htm

[Crey]

like snow? crap companies? how about bad pay? or maybe hi taxes?.....
bring you leprechaun,rainbow and the pot of gold with ya!
your gonna need it.

BRV things aren't all that spectacular over here either.
Like 355 days of rain/year, companies like ryanair and the rest are wannabe ryanairs, high cost of living versus rates of pay, high taxes with nothing in return(we get to pay out €80 billion to bail the banks though ) and not one single leprechaun or pot of gold (but don't tell the yanks that )

Grass is always greener on the other side. I'm sure there's positives and negatives to both Ireland and Canada I'm just looking for a change.

109 and 29 thanks for the info. I'll check out that link and see how I fit in anywhere in anywhere.

Thanks guys,
Crey

[billy ray valintine]

like snow? crap companies? how about bad pay? or maybe hi taxes?.....
bring you leprechaun,rainbow and the pot of gold with ya!
your gonna need it.

BRV things aren't all that spectacular over here either.
Like 355 days of rain/year, companies like ryanair and the rest are wannabe ryanairs, high cost of living versus rates of pay, high taxes with nothing in return(we get to pay out €80 billion to bail the banks though ) and not one single leprechaun or pot of gold (but don't tell the yanks that )

Grass is always greener on the other side. I'm sure there's positives and negatives to both Ireland and Canada I'm just looking for a change.

109 and 29 thanks for the info. I'll check out that link and see how I fit in anywhere in anywhere.

Thanks guys,
Crey

hey crey

by all means, come on in.
snow is a bit different than rain. you'll find that out quick!
no shortage of ryanairs and wannabes here,in fact we actually have more of them!
with 355 days a year of rain,i'm positive the grass is greener over there.
i think you don't know what your in for.
bring your rainbow ,pot 'o' gold and your leprechaun because your STILL going
to need them.

brv

[longestboat]

Crey

I am an EASA B1 doing the conversion myself, I have just got permission to sit the TC tech exams. You will have to prove that you have 1000 hours ground school or something like that, and as I am older than yourself (I did my ticket BCAR in 1994 and converted to the 66 later) I did the ICS canada "Aircraft Mechanics" course which is done on line. So you can do it from the Emerald Isle.

There are 25 exams to do , all of which are pretty straight forward. They supply the books and the course is about $400 CA if I remember right.

You maybe able to prove your ground school if you did a 2 year EASA course so you could go that route. Only thing is the ICS course content includes airframe engine ....you being a B2 and all....bit extra study maybe.

You then submit the ICS course cert with your licence and TC will base their exam on your EASA qualifications / types etc to give you the equiv TC AME licence, M1 /M2 E etc.

Back in the day, if you had a UK CAA licence before 1989 you did`nt have to go through all this shit to sit the exams.

After you sit the techs you then sit the CARS exams, than you have to submit a log of experience..ATA chapter format which must be signed of by a TC AME.

You will have one already if you have done the EASA B2.

One other thing is ICS Canada do not like shipping the exam material outside Canada / USA . I had to get it shipped to my cousins place in BC and she then sent the stuff on to the UK.
Have you got a friend or reli in Canada whose address you could use for shipping?

Google "ICS Canada"

Good luck to you mate....to be sure.

John

[Crey]

Thanks for that john, I'll have a look into it. I might be covered with my apprenticeship approximately 19 months of full time training which if you work it out at a 30-40 hour week it's well over 2000 hours, thats if tc recognize it though I suppose.

Thanks again

[arun]

hey Guys,

Im presently workin in a middle eastern airline,in an avionics w/s, shud b gettin my EASA license (B2) shortly,i wish apply for the E category(avionics) license in Canada,since iv heard that there is no conversion possible from EASA to Canadian license.

is it possible to apply for the relevent exams from outside canada,

if yes,plz guide me how

r ter any centres for examinations outside canada?

tnks,
arun