Ice Pilots of NWT Series on History Channel this Fall!

[niss]

Anybody know what program they used to track those 215' across the ocean? must say it was much better then flightaware!

flightaware

swing and a miss. It looked like spot.

[Big Pistons Forever]

NorthShore,

I am over 30 and I have never baked a cake. I bought one just the other day though.

Here, try this: (Thanks, BMC)

5 MINUTE CHOCOLATE MUG CAKE
4 tablespoons flour
4 tablespoons sugar
2 tablespoons cocoa
1 egg
3 tablespoons milk
3 tablespoons oil
3 tablespoons chocolate chips (optional)
A small splash of vanilla extract
1 large coffee mug (MicroSafe)

Add dry ingredients to mug, and mix.
Add egg.
Pour in milk and oil.
Add the chocolate chips and vanilla extract.
Put mug in microwave for 3 min

Add a bit of vanilla ice cream, and off you go..

Its the perfect pilot recipe....You don't have to know how to cook, all you have to do is follow the checklist...you can complete it within the average pilots attention span....It is full of ingredients which are bad for you , and it is a single serving as we all know pilots don't like to share

[Hawker]

Anybody know what program they used to track those 215' across the ocean? must say it was much better then flightaware!

flightaware

swing and a miss. It looked like spot.

I think that was actually SkyTrack satelite tracking.

Thanks Niss and Brewhouse. Are these programs that you have to subscribe to or ones anyone can use with a link and reg?

[Dust Devil]

Anybody know what program they used to track those 215' across the ocean? must say it was much better then flightaware!

flightaware

I think that was actually SkyTrack satelite tracking.

I have had skytrack for some time and that isn't what my software looks like.

[pez]

In response to the specific question re: tracking of the CL-215's, looks like it was a Latitude Tech solution. http://latitudetech.info/

This is just from me poking around the internet, I know no more than what's posted on their web site. From what I can see, looks like a fairly full featured sat based tracking/messaging/data solution, using GPS and Iridium satellite networks. Depending on choice of equipment and specific implementation, allows an operator to track aircraft worldwide, and exchange messages, possibly also use voice satcom with aircraft in flight.

Latitude's site seems to refer to US and Canadian laws that might require this sort of tracking for fire fighting aircraft, and also seems to imply that for the duration of the filming of "Ice Pilots", this technology was in use. I'm curious as to whether Buffalo's entire fleet is now equipped with this sort of solution...


Cheers,
Colin

[Dust Devil]

In response to the specific question re: tracking of the CL-215's, looks like it was a Latitude Tech solution. http://latitudetech.info/

This is just from me poking around the internet, I know no more than what's posted on their web site. From what I can see, looks like a fairly full featured sat based tracking/messaging/data solution, using GPS and Iridium satellite networks. Depending on choice of equipment and specific implementation, allows an operator to track aircraft worldwide, and exchange messages, possibly also use voice satcom with aircraft in flight.

Latitude's site seems to refer to US and Canadian laws that might require this sort of tracking for fire fighting aircraft, and also seems to imply that for the duration of the filming of "Ice Pilots", this technology was in use. I'm curious as to whether Buffalo's entire fleet is now equipped with this sort of solution...


Cheers,
Colin

It wouldn't surprise me if they worked out a sponsorship deal with the show to outfit some or maybe the whole fleet in order to get some exposure. It seems to be a good system. As I said I've been running skytrack for a few years now and it also gives tracking, messaging and voice capabilities. I don't currently have voice set up yet as I want to upgrade my comm panels first so I can't say how well that works. I also found skytrack's rates to be very reasonable. One thing as well I would say about Skytrack is their customer service is very good any time I have a question I simply email them and usually get a response within a day or two. Considering I am a small operator with only a couple of planes I feel they treat me as though I had a fleet of 100. They tell me that an iphone app is also currently in development which will be awesome. If anyone wants a quote or info on the system they should contact Jade Schleppe (jschleppe@skytrac.ca). That is who I deal with.

Response time in my opinion is absolute key and being able to pinpoint the location of a downed aircraft to within a few hundred yards (especially in bad weather) can really make the difference in rescue and a positive outcome.

[Canoehead]

As for Jeremy, WiIf was baiting him. Bible Thumpers - mostly hypocrits, and will suck their way into a position quicker than a wink, for sure quicker than any woman. He may not sware ( yet ) , but he will put one in your back - is my stereotype. The only thing Jeremy doesn't have going for him is his age - he is about what 22yrs. old. Guys got a great future if they don't destroy him with the B.S..

That's a pretty broad statement to make. I've not seen Wilf 'bible thumping' on the show. The guy's a Christian- what's that got to do with the banter going on between him and Jeremy?
As a Christian (who has never 'sucked' his way into any position) I take exception to your comment- as I'm sure 'any women' on here would.

Tasteless post IMHO.

one more, "any woman on here would"...why are they special, or just different in some way...extrapolate..ain't that just like a, "Christian"..will use any thing from Moral Self Righteousness , to Gender - that way they can say they are holier- than- thou. No pun intended. It was, again, my Stereotype - not, obviously, a statement of fact.

Indanao,
Maybe when you joined up here just a couple of short months ago, you neglected to read the 'Forum Rules'.

You should.

Anyway, there's an excellent link in there that might help you out around here. Don't worry, there are no rules for syntax and spelling
http://gprime.net/flash.php/postingandyou

[Brewhouse]

Canoehead, that link was awsome.

[allblueskies]

Thanks canoehead-that was needed. I had to check out the link for a chuckle and could think of a few places to post that one. All in all I think the most important thing to always remember with this show is that there is extreme editing. They said approx 100 hrs of footage goes into each show, of course they are going to pick out the shots that they feel will get the most response. Also these are guys who have not been on tv before and what they may think is a good idea or funny probably came across different to them. Yellowknife is very small town mentallity and for them they get to take over Alex Debagorski's role as local celeb, it'll be fun while it lasts. In the end, these guys all agreed to work for Joe, as great or terrible as it can be, no one is forcing them to stay. Check out jobsnorth.ca, always other aviation jobs posted on there. Gives you an idea of what other companies in YK pay as well.

[Donald]

A good example of their editing was the Electra departing Yellowknife in the previous weeks episode. It was shown taxing on to runway 15, rolling on 27, lifting off 15, and climbing away from 27.

[allblueskies]

Donald- yeah I've noticed a few times they will show say a plane broken down and the footage they show of the plane coming to the rescue is actually the same plane (Norman Wells). Or they will show a DC4 taking off from the outside yet they show the cockpit of a DC3. No matter really, just keep showing these awesome shots and I will stay tuned. When they bring out the season on DVD a nice little bonus would be a disc of just airplane shots. Now that I would call the perfect Christmas gift!

[canwhitewolf]

A good example of their editing was the Electra departing Yellowknife in the previous weeks episode. It was shown taxing on to runway 15, rolling on 27, lifting off 15, and climbing away from 27.

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compass error

damn arctic

[Lurch]

Donald- yeah I've noticed a few times they will show say a plane broken down and the footage they show of the plane coming to the rescue is actually the same plane (Norman Wells). Or they will show a DC4 taking off from the outside yet they show the cockpit of a DC3. No matter really, just keep showing these awesome shots and I will stay tuned. When they bring out the season on DVD a nice little bonus would be a disc of just airplane shots. Now that I would call the perfect Christmas gift!

I loved when the 215s were leaving YQF, the radio chatter they overlaid was obviously not from YQF.

Lurch

[KC49111]

Not to say that TV saved my life, but the past week's engine failure episode helped me on my PPL flight test yesterday. My inflight emergency was a runaway prop, which is an excellent question, but on the Katana there's no specific checklist or training for it and the prop fails to fine pitch mechanically. The words of the CL-215 pilots came to mind to try prop control, throttle, then nose up to slow down, although my imaginary attempts still led me to an imaginary forced landing. It worked out OK thanks to a very patient examiner.

[gabo]

Not to say that TV saved my life, but the past week's engine failure episode helped me on my PPL flight test yesterday. My inflight emergency was a runaway prop, which is an excellent question, but on the Katana there's no specific checklist or training for it and the prop fails to fine pitch mechanically. The words of the CL-215 pilots came to mind to try prop control, throttle, then nose up to slow down, although my imaginary attempts still led me to an imaginary forced landing. It worked out OK thanks to a very patient examiner.

I'd be careful taking to many notes from that prop overspeed. The pilots in my opinion did a piss poor job. It appeared as though Rooster had no idea what to do when the overspeed ocurred and had to be talked through it as if he only had 100 hrs. He then almost stalled the plane because he turned towards the wrong engine, which in my opinion is a mistake that anyone in his shoes should not be making.

[flyinthebug]

Not to say that TV saved my life, but the past week's engine failure episode helped me on my PPL flight test yesterday. My inflight emergency was a runaway prop, which is an excellent question, but on the Katana there's no specific checklist or training for it and the prop fails to fine pitch mechanically. The words of the CL-215 pilots came to mind to try prop control, throttle, then nose up to slow down, although my imaginary attempts still led me to an imaginary forced landing. It worked out OK thanks to a very patient examiner.

I'd be careful taking to many notes from that prop overspeed. The pilots in my opinion did a piss poor job. It appeared as though Rooster had no idea what to do when the overspeed ocurred and had to be talked through it as if he only had 100 hrs. He then almost stalled the plane because he turned towards the wrong engine, which in my opinion is a mistake that anyone in his shoes should not be making.

I agree gabo. It did appear as though he was caught a bit off guard by the overspeed. Id expect more from a "hired gun" then that. His facial expressions were absolute "deer in the headlights".

KC49111 congrats on your PPL!!

[aviator2010]

I agree gabo. It did appear as though he was caught a bit off guard by the overspeed. Id expect more from a "hired gun" then that. His facial expressions were absolute "deer in the headlights".

you ever been in a single engine scenario where staying airborn was questionable?

[yzfer]

re: the resumes

I was a little dissappointed to see Scott reading the resume and say "recent graduate of..." then throw it in the garbage.

Why the hate on colleges?

I caught that too, was kinda curious. not too sure what to take of it though. Any other thoughts?

[aviator2010]

I caught that too, was kinda curious. not too sure what to take of it though. Any other thoughts?

re: the resumes

I was a little dissappointed to see Scott reading the resume and say "recent graduate of..." then throw it in the garbage.

Why the hate on colleges?

I caught that too, was kinda curious. not too sure what to take of it though. Any other thoughts?

ever have a guy sitting to the right of you tell you his education was worth $100 000?

[aviator2010]

I know exactly why he threw it in the garbage

[flyinthebug]

I agree gabo. It did appear as though he was caught a bit off guard by the overspeed. Id expect more from a "hired gun" then that. His facial expressions were absolute "deer in the headlights".

you ever been in a single engine scenario where staying airborn was questionable?

Yes. Halfway between YSF & YPA about 8 years ago in a PA31-350.. It scared the living shit outta me BUT we got it under control and landed safely in YPA. Luckily I didnt need my F/0 to "talk me through it" like this hot shot did.

Fly safe all.

[hawker driver]

Colin[/quote]
Response time in my opinion is absolute key and being able to pinpoint the location of a downed aircraft to within a few hundred yards (especially in bad weather) can really make the difference in rescue and a positive outcome.[/quote]




Makes you wonder if they could have located the Air France Black box in the Atlantic using that technology by linking the GPS to the Black box. It would have narrowed the search.

[airbournesailor]

you ever been in a single engine scenario where staying airborn was questionable?[/quote]

Yes. Halfway between YSF & YPA about 8 years ago in a PA31-350.. It scared the living shit outta me BUT we got it under control and landed safely in YPA. Luckily I didnt need my F/0 to "talk me through it" like this hot shot did.

Fly safe all.[/quote]


He was sitting left seat but not Captain I think. Probably getting time in the left seat for future. He was right seat on the previous legs.

[gabo]

you ever been in a single engine scenario where staying airborn was questionable?

Yes. Halfway between YSF & YPA about 8 years ago in a PA31-350.. It scared the living shit outta me BUT we got it under control and landed safely in YPA. Luckily I didnt need my F/0 to "talk me through it" like this hot shot did.

Fly safe all.[/quote]


He was sitting left seat but not Captain I think. Probably getting time in the left seat for future. He was right seat on the previous legs.[/quote]

Nope, he's a "Captain", those guys were taking turns flying left seat. All the guys flying over to Turkey are captains, even Justin who is sitting right seat but thats probably because Arnie has more experience and seniority than him.

[co-joe]

I seriously question the logic of keeping an overspeeding prop running until final. In my mind, the only reason they could barely hold 4000' was the drag of an essentially windmilling prop. I don't know ducks but in the piston planes I've flown, the only way to control RPM would have been to reduce power out of the prop governing range. That would be a very low power setting causing much more drag than thrust wouldn't it?

Side question from those in the know: Wouldn't they have been a tonne or two over their landing weight with all that ferry gas? Doesn't that require a pretty major inspection to the landing gear?

And from a few episodes ago I'd just like to point out that nothing says "class" like wearing your very best plaid jacket to a wedding! I guess you can put a dress on a pig...