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Re: Beaver Tips

#126 Post by skybaron » Wed Dec 16, 2009 3:49 pm

Everything I said was a lie.
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Re: Beaver Tips

#127 Post by tzu » Wed Dec 16, 2009 4:12 pm

skybaron wrote:Everything I said was a lie.
Burn! :lol:
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Re: Beaver Tips

#128 Post by xsbank » Wed Dec 16, 2009 8:11 pm

Couple more I thought of - apologies if they have been done.

To set T/O flaps, roll the aileron down (the one you're looking at!) and match the flaps (I think - dammit now I'm going to have to look).

The flap selector is always 'down' unless you are cruising.

If you are heavy and the nose just seems too high in cruise, 'crack' the flaps just a scotche, the tail will come up and so will your cruise speed from 'glacial' to 'tortoise.'

29/19 is an approved power setting..... so is METO. Consult the manual.

If you have an oil-pressure drop that stops and is steady about 10 pounds lower than normal, your oil screen is bypassing and your engine is about to kak. Earth is your friend NOW.

Check your oil cap's integrity once in a while, lest your passenger be anointed.

The jiggleth of yon fuel pressure gauge doth foretell the demise of cacophony.

Taketh off on the full one lest the sea rise up like a tempest and smite thee.

You are not allowed to open the sump drain and just let the goo go in the sea/river anymore. Get a can.
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Re: Beaver Tips

#129 Post by beaverbob » Wed Dec 16, 2009 9:48 pm

xsbank wrote:Couple more I thought of - apologies if they have been done.

To set T/O flaps, roll the aileron down (the one you're looking at!) and match the flaps (I think - dammit now I'm going to have to look).

The flap selector is always 'down' unless you are cruising.

If you are heavy and the nose just seems too high in cruise, 'crack' the flaps just a scotche, the tail will come up and so will your cruise speed from 'glacial' to 'tortoise.'

29/19 is an approved power setting..... so is METO. Consult the manual.

If you have an oil-pressure drop that stops and is steady about 10 pounds lower than normal, your oil screen is bypassing and your engine is about to kak. Earth is your friend NOW.

Check your oil cap's integrity once in a while, lest your passenger be anointed.

The jiggleth of yon fuel pressure gauge doth foretell the demise of cacophony.

Taketh off on the full one lest the sea rise up like a tempest and smite thee.

You are not allowed to open the sump drain and just let the goo go in the sea/river anymore. Get a can.

Aileron to right extend flap until flap the second rib on the ailerons = take off flap.

I even cruise with the flap selected "down". Saves a step later.

Flaps cracked in cruise - improves visibility as well as small effect on cruise speed. I think it might improve top cylinder cooling.

I check the oil cap on every take off. I had a passenger get a very oily leg about 22 years ago.

I don't always take off on the full tank, but check the quantities faithfully every take off. Sometimes we do 4 or five takeoffs on a trip and only 3 could be on a full tank. :rolleyes:

I basicly agree with XSBank.

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Re: Beaver Tips

#130 Post by xsbank » Thu Dec 17, 2009 6:29 am

Thanks for the clarification, Bob. I'm really pushing my luck with these brain cells. Right about the second rib!
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#131 Post by Siddley Hawker » Thu Dec 17, 2009 7:39 pm

If you are heavy and the nose just seems too high in cruise, 'crack' the flaps just a scotche, the tail will come up and so will your cruise speed from 'glacial' to 'tortoise.
Works for the Otter too.
The jiggleth of yon fuel pressure gauge doth foretell the demise of cacophony.
Verily, he doth speak the truth. :D
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#132 Post by HS-748 2A » Fri Dec 18, 2009 4:12 am

Aileron to right extend flap until flap the second rib on the ailerons = take off flap.
By 'rib' you guys mean corrugation?

I always thought it was just 'lined up' with.

Whatever it takes though to correspond with the indicator though eh.

I'll have to try that.

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#133 Post by bronson » Sat Dec 19, 2009 2:07 pm

"Whatever it takes though to correspond with the indicator though eh."

Actually it's a way to find T/O flap in spiteof the indicator!
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#134 Post by HS-748 2A » Sat Dec 19, 2009 5:40 pm

bronson wrote:"Whatever it takes though to correspond with the indicator though eh."

Actually it's a way to find T/O flap in spiteof the indicator!
Yeah - I see what you're getting at there. I'm not a high time Beaver driver. Not at all.
Just a few hours in the left seat.

Wrenched on them a little though and I can say it suprises me the indicator works at all.

They probably are not very accurate.
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#135 Post by Cat Driver » Sun Dec 20, 2009 1:21 pm

I found the best way to get top performance from Beavers was to buy them flowers. :smt008
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#136 Post by HS-748 2A » Sun Dec 20, 2009 1:23 pm

I prefer picking 'ditch-flowers' - (as opposed to buying them)
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Re: Beaver Tips

#137 Post by tzu » Wed Feb 03, 2010 1:26 pm

What power/MAP setting to use when setting up for an approach from cruise?


Obvious - Beaver Green here.


Looking for a smooth technique to approach, one where the passengers would barely notice - flap extension, and higher rates of descent...

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#138 Post by HS-748 2A » Wed Feb 03, 2010 1:42 pm

Whatever it takes to get the rate of descent you want.. Normal approach should be 75 MPH. Prop to full fine, power to modulate descent rate, attitude to control A.S. This config with T/O flap should give you about 8oo fpm, if memory serves.

Go easy on the flaps, only making very small adjustments as your speed changes; ie, instead of going from that "C-Hair for cruise" to T/O all at once, just select down and do half-pumps every few seconds or so, adjusting elevator pressure to keep the attitude you need. Don't let the nose pop up with flap application. Bringing the flaps down slowly as the airspeed bleeds off prevents that tendancy significantly.

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Re: Beaver Tips

#139 Post by Rowdy » Wed Feb 03, 2010 3:20 pm

Not gonna lie, cant wait to get back in the ol' girl :D
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#140 Post by flyinthebug » Thu Feb 04, 2010 5:40 pm

Rowdy wrote:Not gonna lie, cant wait to get back in the ol' girl :D
:supz:
wish i was with ya on that flight Rowdy! Hows the arctic? You still in up there?
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Re: Beaver Tips

#141 Post by wonger » Mon Feb 08, 2010 8:06 pm

How much load can the baggage area take? I heard it was only around 75 pounds or so, but looking at - for example - West Coast Air's website, they say max baggage allowance per passenger is 25 pounds.

So, if the beaver is loaded with 5 - 6 passengers, with 25 pounds of bags each, wouldn't the baggage area be technically over gross? :smt017
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#142 Post by beechnut » Mon Feb 08, 2010 8:27 pm

WONGER

A good starting point is the float locker. Trouble is the stuff can get damp
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Re: Beaver Tips

#143 Post by wonger » Mon Feb 08, 2010 8:42 pm

excluding float lockers...
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#144 Post by CGZMT » Mon Feb 08, 2010 10:11 pm

Oh how I miss the old -2. Hoping the boss gets his redone and back online. As for approaches I always tried to set it up farther back and just pull two or so inches off at a time to allow for better cooling. This also prevents the "jake-break" effect once in the final phases of the approach. I though the aft baggage you could get 50lbs in a rod tube and I thought the aft baggage was 120lbs? or was that 50 in the tube and 70 on the shelf?
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#145 Post by wonger » Mon Feb 08, 2010 10:36 pm

CGZMT wrote:I though the aft baggage you could get 50lbs in a rod tube and I thought the aft baggage was 120lbs? or was that 50 in the tube and 70 on the shelf?

:smt100

Rod tube, Shelf? I think that's more used on outpost camp beavers, perhaps to accommodate fishing gear (really i don't know). Some of the beavers I've noticed don't come with the shelf or rod tube. Passengers luggage are stocked one on top of the other behind the rear bench seat. I know there are many mods/variations out there, but does anyone know what the load limit is behind the rear bench seat??
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Re: Beaver Tips

#146 Post by wonger » Tue Feb 09, 2010 7:24 pm

No takers? No answer for the baggage load limit???
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#147 Post by beaverbob » Tue Feb 09, 2010 7:43 pm

A rod tube is not a normal mod and would have to be quite restricted weight wise because of its c of g. A beaver can have a 200 pound load limit behind the rear seats with structural mods.(Sealand baggage extension kit,)
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#148 Post by gapper » Tue Feb 09, 2010 10:06 pm

I'm hoping someone here could share any information on the Wipline wing modifications on the Beaver. It looks like it might be the same concept as the Otter/Turbo Beaver wing, with fences. Does anyone in Canada have this mod?
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#149 Post by HS-748 2A » Tue Feb 09, 2010 11:26 pm

Do you mean the "Advanced Wing Technologies" mod.?

http://www.dhc-2.com/id387.htm
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#150 Post by Idriveplane » Wed Feb 10, 2010 6:37 am

For the newer guys, on windy days make sure your into wind. Bigger waters mean waves arn't always an indicator of wind direction. And back off abit on the flaps when windy and gusty. I use around climb flap on takeoff, and maybe pump a bit more down once rolling on step.
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