Officer down memorial page

dashx · Post by **dashx** » Thu Mar 18, 2010 10:19 am

http://www.odmp.org/canada/officer/780- ... in-cameron

Let's try to remember that every once in a while officers give their lives to protect citizens.

niss · Post by **niss** » Thu Mar 18, 2010 10:37 am

Good Post DashX.

While we should certainly keep a diligent watch for those who abuse the trust we place in them, we must be thankful.

These folks often put their lives on the line dealing with the worst people to protect the rest of us.

Many of these fine folks also pay with their lives.

crazy_aviator · Post by **crazy_aviator** » Thu Mar 18, 2010 7:18 pm

What is it with this immortalizing and worshipping folks who have guns and kill ?look at afghanistan and the canadian equivalent of American hero worship ,,we have "learned" from the Americans, for the sake of bringing the peoples online with the present agendas!!! War and killing and trying to make heroes out of folks who go out and kill others in foreign countries for WHAT REASON ? (Afghanistan) is NOT heroism !! As with Police officers,,,,its a JOB,,get used to it ,,it involves RISK and oftentimes, is a thankless job involving a LOT of beurocracy and politically correct bullcrap,,,leading many officers to take the pressure out on their GF or wives or on the job ETC ! Its still NOT acceptable to do WRONG , whether in the forces (police or military) Killing is STILL killing ,,,,WHO do YOU think LEGALIZES it ??? Who do you think rubber stamps Afghanistan and then BRAINWASHES Canadians into thinking all canucks who die or Kill there are heroes ?? WHAT ,,, IS afghanistan at war with Canada ???

The Old Fogducker · Post by **The Old Fogducker** » Thu Mar 18, 2010 8:19 pm

You been sniffing those fuel samples again?

crazy_aviator · Post by **crazy_aviator** » Fri Mar 19, 2010 5:27 am

100LL Actually, i do live near a reserve, not on the reserve !

mcrit · Post by **mcrit** » Fri Mar 19, 2010 11:15 am

crazy_aviator wrote:Killing is STILL killing

Yep, and it's sometimes, sadly, required.

The Old Fogducker · Post by **The Old Fogducker** » Fri Mar 19, 2010 1:39 pm

Mcrit ... perhaps he's an NDP supporter and subscribes to the doctrine of Taliban Jack.

All we need to do is treat them better and they'd love us.

If only we gave more to the poor and the violent in Canada, they wouldn't want to pull B & Es, punch people out for the fun of it, etc.

It may come as a huge surprise, but there actually are people ... most likely living fairly close to you ... that really find a lot of fun in punching somebody out just for the fun of it.

OFD

Kilo-Kilo · Post by **Kilo-Kilo** » Fri Mar 19, 2010 3:09 pm

crazy_aviator wrote:What is it with this immortalizing and worshipping folks who have guns and kill ?look at afghanistan and the canadian equivalent of American hero worship ,,we have "learned" from the Americans, for the sake of bringing the peoples online with the present agendas!!! War and killing and trying to make heroes out of folks who go out and kill others in foreign countries for WHAT REASON ? (Afghanistan) is NOT heroism !! As with Police officers,,,,its a JOB,,get used to it ,,it involves RISK and oftentimes, is a thankless job involving a LOT of beurocracy and politically correct bullcrap,,,leading many officers to take the pressure out on their GF or wives or on the job ETC ! Its still NOT acceptable to do WRONG , whether in the forces (police or military) Killing is STILL killing ,,,,WHO do YOU think LEGALIZES it ??? Who do you think rubber stamps Afghanistan and then BRAINWASHES Canadians into thinking all canucks who die or Kill there are heroes ?? WHAT ,,, IS afghanistan at war with Canada ???

crazy_aviator wrote:100LL Actually, i do live near a reserve, not on the reserve !

Wow! Insulting police, Canadian peace keepers and natives all within a couple posts. I'm a firefighter, want to take a crack at me too because I work closely with RCMP? My wife is also part native, so I can really be your punching bag.

crazy_aviator · Post by **crazy_aviator** » Fri Mar 19, 2010 3:37 pm

Kilo Kilo, If you read closely, you will see that i neither insult the forces or the officers , also, if youve ever been to a northern reserve where the children DO sniff such things like aviation fuel, you will know and understand also that my heart goes out for all the abuse and suffering that goes on in a reserve

Kilo-Kilo · Post by **Kilo-Kilo** » Fri Mar 19, 2010 3:46 pm

The insinuation that we are immortalizing gun-toting killers (the first sentence in your post) got me started. BTW, my wife ran a day camp for aboriginal kids in Inuvik while she was on the fire department there at the same time when we were first married. I've also been in places and situations you couldn't imagine. So don't go thinking I am naive.

crazy_aviator · Post by **crazy_aviator** » Fri Mar 19, 2010 7:18 pm

Kilo, Perhaps you still dont get it ,., what if your son or daughter was raped and killed by an enemy combatant from another nation in a "war" or a "peacekeeping situation" Dont you know that THEY are doing the "right" thing in their nations eyes and they themselves consider it a "duty" to fight against the "evil" enemies ?
I dont think much of our guys and gals going to a foreign country ( and fighting the nations citizens) that HAS NOTHING AGAINST US OR HAS DONE NOTHING TO US , of course, we just wanted to play world police and conform to the USA and the NWO ! and at WHAT COST ? Lives and billions of $$$ and YOU still dont get it ??? Dont you know that the "highway of heroes" is a simple propaganda tool ,,just like what happened with gerbles in WW#2 and Hitler? Are you SOO ignorant ? As Canada Joins the world in war and evil,, it pays in deaths and its own national disinigration!

niss · Post by **niss** » Fri Mar 19, 2010 7:59 pm

gerbles in WW#2 and Hitler?

????

Kilo-Kilo · Post by **Kilo-Kilo** » Fri Mar 19, 2010 8:15 pm

Done. Peace Bro.

This is an open forum and while I may not agree with you, I respect your right to your opinion.

BibleMonkey · Post by **BibleMonkey** » Sat Mar 20, 2010 9:34 am

niss wrote:
gerbles in WW#2 and Hitler?

????

Now every time I read the name he meant to type : Goebbells , I'll think of your singing rodent.

He has a point, though, propaganda plays an enormous role in shaping our view of foreign policy.

Tomorrow, March 21, is the day set aside by Ronald Reagan to recognize the heroic Taliban freedom fighters.

You guys aren't celebrating that anymore? I always go out and shoot a few gophers to celebrate that day-tomorrow.

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The recognition alone of the continual and increasingly widespread use of propaganda says nothing of the validity of any particular political action, though; that is, we can say that what Reagan did, and what we did/are doing in Afghanistan is morally correct and still acknowledge the lies that make it politically feasible or palatable to voters ( the "lying for the greater good " ) argument.

Although I wouldn't make that argument.

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We're all creatures of extremes, I think.
We need to label things as good or evil, and inject emotion.

Anyway, this thread was about cops, commonality between the initial post and where it diverged is the use of propaganda, I think .

First post, probably intended as a balance to the perceived "anti-cop " threads, I think, was a recognition of the risks, and the severe and ultimate price paid by law enforcement officers occasionally as they protect us.

Fair enough. Tip your hat and pass on to the next topic.

Someone else points out the propaganda involved-excess or 'hero' worship of peace officers ( gun carriers...whatever..led to military gun carriers ).

There never seems to be any balance-or maybe it's just hard to recognize sometimes , obscured by the emotional shouting.

From a purely unemotional perspective-I don't think law enforcement in Canada is particularly dangerous.

Each year in Canada an average of 115 people are killed and at least 1,500 are hospitalized for farm-related incidents. There's a lot more prematurely dead farmers than cops.

Being a policeman is a comparatively well paying job. People know the risk when they join. Sure-thanks for a good job-but that's it. It's not that risky. Put your dam body armour on and do the job you chose .

Moose47 · Post by **Moose47** » Thu Mar 25, 2010 2:25 pm

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What is it with this immortalizing and worshipping folks who have guns and kill ?look at afghanistan and the canadian equivalent of American hero worship ,,we have "learned" from the Americans, for the sake of bringing the peoples online with the present agendas!!! War and killing and trying to make heroes out of folks who go out and kill others in foreign countries for WHAT REASON ? (Afghanistan) is NOT heroism !! As with Police officers,,,,its a JOB,,get used to it ,,it involves RISK and oftentimes, is a thankless job involving a LOT of beurocracy and politically correct bullcrap,,,leading many officers to take the pressure out on their GF or wives or on the job ETC ! Its still NOT acceptable to do WRONG , whether in the forces (police or military) Killing is STILL killing ,,,,WHO do YOU think LEGALIZES it ??? Who do you think rubber stamps Afghanistan and then BRAINWASHES Canadians into thinking all canucks who die or Kill there are heroes ?? WHAT ,,, IS afghanistan at war with Canada ??? >>>>

Can I assume that you never served in the military or law enforcement? If not, how can you speak with any authority.