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'Hutaree' religious militia members arrested

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Who are the Hutaree?
The FBI launched raids against a Christian militia group that was reportedly trying to ignite an all-out war with the goverment. Who are they?
posted on March 30, 2010, at 7:37 AM
A group of Hutaree militia members.

A group of Hutaree militia members. Photo: Hutaree.com

Nine members of a Christian militia group known as the Hutaree were arrested over the weekend in a series of FBI raids in Indiana, Michigan, and Ohio, on suspicion they were plotting to kill a police officer. Various reports say the plan was part of a larger violent strategy and that the Hutaree were "preparing for the Antichrist." Here, ten key questions about this shadowy Michigan-based group:

1. What is a Hutaree?
The group's website describes a Hutaree as a "Christian warrior." It goes on: "We believe that one day, as prophecy says, there will be an Anti-Christ. All Christians must know this and prepare... The Hutaree will one day see its enemy and meet him on the battlefield is so God wills it [sic]"

2. Why did the FBI initiate raids?
According to the indictment, the Hutaree are accused of devising a complicated plot to: 1) Kill a police officer in Michigan; 2) Exploit the subsequent funeral as an opportunity to attack other officers with IEDs (Improvised Explosive Devices); 3) Retreat to "rally points" after the proposed funeral attack, and then — protected by trip-wired bombs — engage law enforcement officials in "violent standoffs."

3.What did the group hope to achieve?
According to the Associated Press, the Hutaree believed this series of attacks would touch off a larger uprising against the U.S. Government. Attorney General Eric Holder has said the Hutaree were "conspiring to levy war against the United States." It's not immediately clear how the "Antichrist" comes into the picture.

4. Is the group well-organized?
Very, according to its site, which outlines a clear hierarchy along paramilitary lines. The term "gunner" seems to designate the most humble member (watch a YouTube video showing members training with guns), while "radok" is the highest rank a Hutaree can achieve.

5. Who exactly is under suspicion?
The indictment names nine individuals: David Stone (45), also known as "Joe Stonewall" and "Captain Hutaree"; his wife, Tina Mae (44); his sons Josh (21) and David Jr (19); Joshua Clough (28), also known as "Azzurlin"; Michael Meeks (40); Thomas Piatek (46); Kristopher Sickles (27), also known as "Pale Horse"; and Jacob J. Ward (33).

6. Are they all in custody?
They are now. As of yesterday, Josh Stone — son of leader David Stone — was reportedly still at large, but has since been apprehended.

7. What exactly have they been charged with?
Seditious conspiracy, attempting use of weapons of mass destruction, teaching the use of explosive materials, and possessing a firearm during a crime of violence.

8. Do militia groups like the Hutaree pose a threat to public safety?
A report by the Southern Poverty Law Center (SPLC) says that the combination of a bad economy and a black president has generated a spike in militia activity. According to the SPLC, the number of active militia groups in America rose from 42 in 2008 to 127 in 2009.

9. What other factors may be driving the uptick in militia activity?
"Issues like eminent domain and immigration, and apparently national health care in some quarters," says David Cid, a former FBI counter-terrorism agent and executive director of the Oklahoma City-based Memorial Institute for the Prevention of Terrorism, as quoted in the Associated Press.

10. Are any commentators attempting to link the Hutaree to the Tea Party?
Conservative bloggers are bracing themselves: "The timing of this raid is troubling," comments PipelineNews.org, "coming in the immediate wake of a sustained attempt by Democrat politicians to characterize opponents to the Obama agenda as violent, right-wing, Christian racists...."


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I'm pretty sure the LTTE (Tamil Tigers) are Hindu. They coined the use of suicide bombing.

Or the Catholics and Protestants. Of which the PIRA are so famously, infamous...

Or the Jewish group that bombed the King David hotel in Jerusalem in 1946. Can't remember the name off the top of my head.

So no, the Muslim's don't have the monopoly.
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Nark wrote:I'm pretty sure the LTTE (Tamil Tigers) are Hindu. They coined the use of suicide bombing.

Or the Catholics and Protestants. Of which the PIRA are so famously, infamous...

Or the Jewish group that bombed the King David hotel in Jerusalem in 1946. Can't remember the name off the top of my head.

So no, the Muslim's don't have the monopoly.
I was being facetious.

The Jewish group was one of the pre-state militias known as the Irgun & the Lehi.
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I changed the title, due to it being completely retarded. Don't do that again.
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Sulako wrote:I changed the title, due to it being completely retarded. Don't do that again.
You're being a little cranky. I thought puppies were supposed to make people happy?
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If anyone in the athiest/agnostic thread flames me, im pointing them to this thread :rolleyes:
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Terrorists by any sane measurement, if you ask me. Off to Guantanamo with them.
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We even had french terrorists in Canada... er in Quebec back in the day, doesn't have to be religion to get people going
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interesting.. even though the topic heading has been changed, it still appears in the post header as what it was originally. All posts post change however have the new title...
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Some people do not believe that terrorism works .Terrorism as we call it is just another form of combat and is one of the most highly effective methods of changing the political agenda.
Terrorism works,it has proven to be one of the most effective forms of warfare ever.
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That's such nonsense 2R that I really have to think you are trolling. Terrorism never defeating any enemy. Not one. Just as a for instance look at the Vietnam war. Was america defeated? I would say yes. Was South Vietnam defeated? I would say yes. Did terrorism play a part? Yes but it didn't defeat anyone. Until you engage the main force of the enemy, with a superior main force of your own, you will never win. Israel will never be defeated by terrorism. It's possible I suppose that they will get up and leave. But as far as wiping them off the face of the earth, as Hamas and others state is their goal? Not gonna happen via terrorism. What did Timothy McVeh (sp?) accomplish? Lotsa terror, no real gain of any kind. 9/11? A huge Bin Laden miscalculation. Poor guy thought Bill Clinton was still president. Figured we'd blast another aspirin factory in the Sudan and call it good. Terrorism will change a political agenda if the right set of quislings are running things. But it will never defeat a determined opponent.
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Without being too long winded, terrorism is, by definition designed to change a way a society does something. Whether its political ideology, territorial boundaries, ethnic make up of government etc...

Unfortunately, terrorism works. It's a shame that it is at the cost of innocent lives.
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Terror is one of the best weapons in war .
Creating terror is an art.A black art that should not really be discussed on a public forum as it may scare the children.

If you do not think terrorism works ,take a good look around the airport on your next visit ,things have changed since 9-11
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