Mohammed the Bear

Siddley Hawker · Post by **Siddley Hawker** » Thu Apr 22, 2010 4:35 pm

I think the Pope should take a page from these guys.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertainment/8636455.stm
http://entertainment.timesonline.co.uk/ ... 105417.ece

4Stroke · Post by **4Stroke** » Thu Apr 22, 2010 4:40 pm

these guys are seriously f00ked.

But......free speech is free speech...

http://revolutionmuslim.blogspot.com/

Nark · Post by **Nark** » Thu Apr 22, 2010 4:48 pm

It warms my heart to know that they are such a peaceful religion.

JakeYYZ · Post by **JakeYYZ** » Thu Apr 22, 2010 4:50 pm

If I were Trey and Matt, I'd use my wealth to hire a hitman to take the fecker out. Call it a preemptive strike, self-defense, etc.

mcrit · Post by **mcrit** » Thu Apr 22, 2010 8:51 pm

JakeYYZ wrote:Call it a preemptive strike, self-defense, etc.

...a jihad, a fatwa......

(Man, if the Muslims are right and Mo really is running the show I'm going straight to hell when I die! Then again, if the jews are right, I'm going to hell for my love of ham steak, if the christians are right I'm going to hell for my love of japanese midget hookers, if the Buhdists are right I'm coming back as rock........looks like I'm fucked no matter what!)

*****JUST SO WE'RE CLEAR FOR THE HUMOR IMPAIRED/LESS BRIGHT OUT THERE, I'M NOT SERIOUSLY SUGGESTING WE KILL ANYONE, NOR WAS JAKE********

bmc · Post by **bmc** » Thu Apr 22, 2010 10:02 pm

Islam is as non-peaceful as all catholics are gay paedophiles. We're not hearing too many catholics speaking out against the dope (I mean pope) are we? All priests are perverts. Everyone of them. Always have been, right? You can only draw the conclusion that if some of them are sick fvcks, they all are, right? Rational conclusion.

Best clip in that episode:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vFATbh2ApPQ

Invertago · Post by **Invertago** » Thu Apr 22, 2010 11:26 pm

mcrit wrote:
JakeYYZ wrote:Call it a preemptive strike, self-defense, etc.
...a jihad, a fatwa...... (Man, if the Muslims are right and Mo really is running the show I'm going straight to hell when I die! Then again, if the jews are right, I'm going to hell for my love of ham steak, if the christians are right I'm going to hell for my love of japanese midget hookers, if the Buhdists are right I'm coming back as rock........looks like I'm fucked no matter what!)

*****JUST SO WE'RE CLEAR FOR THE HUMOR IMPAIRED/LESS BRIGHT OUT THERE, I'M NOT SERIOUSLY SUGGESTING WE KILL ANYONE, NOR WAS JAKE********

LOL, you're sooo screwed... but I'm not you, therefore I find the situation particularly funny!

2R · Post by 2R » Fri Apr 23, 2010 5:45 am

//exceptionally retarded vitriol removed by Sulako. Smarten up.

2R · Post by 2R » Fri Apr 23, 2010 9:28 am

Somebody needs a happy meal

Hedley · Post by **Hedley** » Fri Apr 23, 2010 11:01 am

What puzzles me is that everyone doesn't seem to mind the muslims threatening to kill people.

Can someone explain to me why that's ok?

Expat · Post by **Expat** » Fri Apr 23, 2010 11:25 am

Hedley wrote:What puzzles me is that everyone doesn't seem to mind the muslims threatening to kill people.

Can someone explain to me why that's ok?

Muslims kill more muslims than any others. That is a fact. Muslim faith is hard to understand for us foreigners. It is divided in many sub-faiths, like Sunni, Shia, and Wahabis. They kill each other with conviction. This is the only religion that allows the killing of those who defect.
Islam is growing so fast, that it will threaten other faiths in the distant future.
It is spreading very fast, in Africa towards the south, and in Asia, towards the north. Just look at where the wars are taking place, and you will see the demarcation line.
In my humble opinion, only the USSR found the way to achieve peace between Orthodox, Catholics, Muslims, Buddhists and Jews. They forbade public displays of devotion, and all went well for 70 years. Every one drank vodka, and ate pork, divorced, cheated, etc...

We, in the west, with our laws protecting minorities, created a heaven for terrorists of all kinds. Be they from India, Pakistan, Saudia, they find the most fertile grounds in Brittain, Canada, and the US.
With the various fertility rates considered, I have serious fears for the future as we know it in the west.

Let us see...

Moose47 · Post by **Moose47** » Fri Apr 23, 2010 2:55 pm

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Brilliant expat. I too fear that someday in the not too distant future, I will have to put my skills the military taught to use again, only this time in my own backyard.

'Pro Patria'

Sulako · Post by **Sulako** » Fri Apr 23, 2010 3:34 pm

Hedley wrote:What puzzles me is that everyone doesn't seem to mind the muslims threatening to kill people.

Can someone explain to me why that's ok?

Of course people mind that. The difference is we only moderate this board. Threatening to kill anyone is not okay - but that hasn't happened on this board in quite some time. If a death threat was posted on this forum it would be removed, the poster banned, and the authorities notified. I trust you can make this distinction now.

JakeYYZ · Post by **JakeYYZ** » Fri Apr 23, 2010 8:42 pm

You’re right, mcrit. As much as it may seem at times, I don't really hate muslims.
At least, not like I hate broccoli farmers.......

Siddley Hawker · Post by **Siddley Hawker** » Sat Apr 24, 2010 7:17 am

What about muslim broccoli farmers? I think there's a special corner of Hades reserved for them buggers.

Actually, it wasn't Mohammed inside the bear suit, it was Santa Claus.

JakeYYZ · Post by **JakeYYZ** » Sat Apr 24, 2010 2:08 pm

Guess what...THEY WIN. We see it everyday...threaten violence and you get what you want. This is PC to the nth degree.

South Park is silenced by Islamists

24/04/2010
THREATS
An episode of South Park has been censored after Islamic extremists threatened the show's creators for their depiction of the prophet Mohammed.
The Comedy Central channel said it had added a series of audio bleeps to the episode which effectively removed all references to Mohammed.
It comes after the extreme Revolution Muslim group said South Park creators Matt Stone and Trey Parker risked the fate of Dutch filmmaker Theo Van Gogh, who was murdered by a Muslim fanatics in 2004.
Parker and Stone said: "Kyle's customary final speech was about intimidation and fear. It didn't mention Mohammed."

Link: http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/top-storie ... -22208070/

Dash-Ate · Post by **Dash-Ate** » Sat Apr 24, 2010 3:31 pm

So what's you solution?

A Christian Master race? Concentration camps for muslims? Ovens? Brainwashing?
Residential schools?

Do they have to mumble the same prayers as us to our "god"?

Should we force them to be christians say like Penticostals? Force the women to wear long hair and dresses? Maybe force them to be Jewish and cut the skin off their kid's...oh nevermind.

How many of "them" have we killed in the middle east? I want a number. Give me a number.
A christian is "peaceful" even when he invades two countries and drops a DU weapon onto civillians? Ya ok I've got it.

Nark · Post by **Nark** » Sat Apr 24, 2010 4:03 pm

How many of "them" have we killed in the middle east? I want a number. Give me a number.

Not as much as they've killed of their own.

Where do you want to go with this?

JakeYYZ · Post by **JakeYYZ** » Sat Apr 24, 2010 4:38 pm

Dash-Ate wrote:So what's you solution?

A Christian Master race? Concentration camps for muslims? Ovens? Brainwashing?
Residential schools?

Do they have to mumble the same prayers as us to our "god"?

Should we force them to be christians say like Penticostals? Force the women to wear long hair and dresses? Maybe force them to be Jewish and cut the skin off their kid's...oh nevermind.

How many of "them" have we killed in the middle east? I want a number. Give me a number.
A christian is "peaceful" even when he invades two countries and drops a DU weapon onto civillians? Ya ok I've got it.

Are you respectful of all Islamic beliefs or just the ones you find convenient?
Are you respectful of the belief that Jews are to be exterminated; that women have less value and legal standing than men; that TV, radio and kite-flying (kite-flying!) are bad; that men must not shave; that you are a Muslim and must be brought back into the fold; that women must wear barbecue tarps in public; that women can not drive; that non-Muslims can pay tax for the privilege of not being killed/converted; that centuries-old statues of other religions' imagery must be destroyed; well, the list goes on.
Are you equally respectful of Catholic or Hindu or Amish beliefs? Of course you're not and I'll tell you why. No Catholic or Hindu or Amish has ever threatened or supported you being killed or harmed in any way for your non-respect of their beliefs.
It's not respect you're showing but cowardice.

Sulako · Post by **Sulako** » Sun Apr 25, 2010 4:30 am

JakeYYZ wrote:
Are you equally respectful of Catholic or Hindu or Amish beliefs? Of course you're not and I'll tell you why. No Catholic or Hindu or Amish has ever threatened or supported you being killed or harmed in any way for your non-respect of their beliefs.
It's not respect you're showing but cowardice.

First of all.... //facepalm for about 5 minutes.

Okay, I'm back. Oh JakeYYZ, you amuse me. You really should do your homework before spouting off, though.

First of all, have you ever heard of the crusades? Perhaps you should Google them. Done? Cool, let's get biblical...

If anyone, even your own family suggests worshipping another God, kill them. (Deuteronomy 13:6-10)
If you find out a city worships a different god, destroy the city and kill all of it's inhabitants... even the animals. (Deuteronomy 13:12-15)
Kill anyone with a different religion. (Deuteronomy 17:2-7)
Anyone who dreams or prophesizes anything that is against God, or anyone who tries to turn you from God, is to be put to death. (Deuteronomy 13:5)

Hmm, let's see what other insane rules are present in the christian holy books, shall we? Presumably as a christian you incorporate these into your system of behaviour...

You criticize muslims for not shaving? Guess what it says in your bible? - Don't cut your hair nor shave. (Leviticus 19:27)

Treatment of women? According to your bible a woman was created from a man's spare rib - they needed man to exist.
But wait...there's more!

Exodus 20:17 it says "Thou shalt not covet thy neighbour's house, thou shalt not covet thy neighbour's wife, nor his manservant, nor his maidservant, nor his ox, nor his ass, nor any thing that is thy neighbour's."

Yup, women rank right up there with oxen and donkeys.

Leviticus also touches on the treatment of female slaves and their male masters. According to Leviticus 19:20-22, if a man rapes his female slave... the woman gets punished and the man's sins are forgiven. Look for yourself.

Women are below men in the pecking order again in 1 Corinthians 11:3-9 where it is made crystal clear that God over Christ, Christ is over man, and man is over woman. After all man was not created for woman, but woman was created for man.

Women are not allowed to talk in church, in fact the idea of them speaking in church is shameful. This is made very clear in 1 Corinthians 14:34-35. Women are to remain silent, and if they have any questions they are to ask their husbands at home after church.

1 Timothy chapter 2 is another chapter that is dedicated to saying women are below men, and also says women are to dress plainly. But let's take a harder look at where women stand in this chapter. It says that women are to learn in silence without subjection... they cannot teach nor "usurp authority over the man". It also makes it clear that Adam was first, then Eve. And the Garden of Eden thing, with the forbidden fruit... well that was 100% Eve's fault. Women are gullible, yet conniving.

I'm getting bored now, so let's go over some of the more amusing rules in the bible...

Among other gems:

Don't wear clothes made of more than one fabric (Leviticus 19:19)
Any person who curseth his mother or father, must be killed. (Leviticus 20:9) Have you ever done that?
If a man cheats on his wife, or vise versa, both the man and the woman must die. (Leviticus 20:10)
If a man has sex with a woman on her period, they are both to be "cut off from their people" (Leviticus 20:18)
Psychics, wizards, and so on are to be stoned to death. (Leviticus 20:27)
People who have flat noses, or is blind or lame, cannot go to an altar of God (Leviticus 21:17-18)
Anyone who curses or blasphemes God, should be stoned to death by the community. (Leviticus 24:14-16)
Don't let cattle graze with other kinds of Cattle (Leviticus 19:19)

Wow...Leviticus had some serious anger issues. Just kidding, I know Leviticus wasn't an actual person, it was Moses channeling God, apparently word-for-word.

I know what your next argument is likely to be, assuming you have actually read the bible:

That's mostly old-skool testament stuff, it no longer applies! New testament stuff is all about love!

"Full well ye reject the commandment of God, that ye may keep your own tradition. For Moses said, Honour thy father and thy mother; and, Whoso curseth father or mother, let him die the death: But ye say, If a man shall say to his father or mother, It is Corban, that is to say, a gift, by whatsoever thou mightest be profited of me; he shall be set free. And ye suffer him no more to do ought for his father or his mother; Making the word of God of none effect through your tradition, which ye have delivered" -Jesus Christ, as quoted in Mark 7:9-13.

Anyway, I guess my main point is that lots of religious publications have all sorts of insane stuff in them. Mainstream religious teachings have tried to separate the crazy specific stuff from the less-crazy stuff like "love other people and try to be nice to those who have it rougher than you". That's a common theme in Christian, Muslim, Hindu and all other major religions. If you are going to get hung up on specifics, you really aren't cut out to enter into this argument though. Just sayin'.

I just wish more people focused on the core messages of religion (peace, love, acceptance) rather than the archaic, clearly insane bylaws. The world would be a much better place. Enjoy your Sunday - don't work too hard!

Hedley · Post by **Hedley** » Sun Apr 25, 2010 5:20 am

Sorry, I don't buy into the rhetoric being spouted here that if you're not a Good Muslim - and all muslims are good, according to the rhetoric here - you must be an Evil Christian, because there are only Good Muslims and Evil Christians in the world.

Lots of us don't buy into any of that primitive, brutal middle eastern superstitious nonsense. I personally am not a fan of the Roman Catholic church, for example - I certainly wouldn't allow any of my children to be alone unsupervised with any Roman Catholic priest.

I guess this makes me an Infidel who is Marked For Death by Good Muslims because I am an Unbeliever in the primitive, brutal middle eastern superstitious nonsense.

Sigh. You must excuse me, it is time for me to go and worship the ju-ju of the mountain again.

Nark · Post by **Nark** » Sun Apr 25, 2010 6:51 am

While great retort Saluko, all your scripture is from the Old Testament.

While you may not know me as a Christian, I am.
I do not force my religious belief's on anybody.

I'll give you a quick Nark's Notes on the bible:
Man was a sinner. Jesus was sent to earth to teach the gospel. Jesus died as a token of forgiveness for our sin's.

I counter with one verse, that most non-believers also know

"For God so loved the people, that he sent His only begotten Son, that whoever shall believe in Him will not parish, but have everlasting life" John 3:16

Cowards often hide behind religion so justify their acts.

Siddley Hawker · Post by **Siddley Hawker** » Sun Apr 25, 2010 8:01 am

Lewis Black is a very funny man. As he explains it, the Old Testament is not even a Christian book.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LGrlWOhtj3g&NR=1

mcrit · Post by **mcrit** » Sun Apr 25, 2010 10:37 am

Sulako wrote:
JakeYYZ wrote:

Okay, I'm back. Oh JakeYYZ, you amuse me. You really should do your homework before spouting off, though........
........ Enjoy your Sunday - don't work too hard!

Here's the thing dude; I would like you to name one Christian country were the people running it actually follow doctrine of killing heathens and converting others to Christianity by force. I'm going to make a quick Timmies run while you do that because I suspect it will take you a while. Can you think of any currect Islamic theocracies that advocate the eradication of other faiths? Shouldn't be too hard.
It is interesting that you brought up the crusades. They were a military effort to convert others to Christianity, and to kill those that could not be converted. Is there anything in current events that sort of reminds you of that? I am sad to say that there is a good chance that we will be on the recieving end of the next crusade.
The long and the short of it is that modern Islam is in about the same position that Christianity was ~1000 years ago. It consists of huge masses of poor, uneducated people being manipulated by a political elite. It is poised to make all the same mistakes that early Christianity did.

BoostedNihilist · Post by **BoostedNihilist** » Sun Apr 25, 2010 11:25 am

the 'mistakes' of early christianity are what provided the buffer and allowed christianity to 'evolve' into a 'peaceful' religion. They aren't nutcase ludicrous anymore simply because they (christians) don't have to be.

But when islam finally becomes a worthy adversary we will see how quickly christianity degenerates back into the state it was in 1000 years ago

wrt old testament v. new testament..

wasn't the new testament written by shakespeare?