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Re: 50 hour course

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I really don't trust you. Congratulations for playing by the rules. :prayer:

Also, you are probably missing the point, you seem to be a professional debator rather than a professional.

Advanced training was the primary goal here, and contacts and jobs were second. I, being the young the pilot (im guessing your 50 ish) have a whole career ahead of me, I now have adavnced training, that I can use my whole life. I also learned alot about the float industry on the Westcoast, alot about owning and operating a floatplane, and made great contacts to follow those up in short time. The company that I am working for has a diverse fleet of 25 aircraft and has been known to be feeder into majors. My point is that I am equipped with more experience and a leg up.

For me, its not all about counting hours day in day out. It's about being part of a great comapny that will allow me to diversify and stregthen skills. :prayer:
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Re: 50 hour course

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Is Pilot_king! the owner of the seaplane academe? Thats my guess what do you guys think?

I teach a few float endorsements a year and despite that we offer them I always recommend that the person does 10-12 hours or so and then spends there time and money looking for a job where they are going to fly.

I totally agree that the operator will look after the amount of leash that the journo pilot gets. The lowest time pilot I hired had 7 hrs on floats and 215tt. It took a few weeks before I let him go on scenic tours and a few more until he got easy charters, by the winter he was ready to fly almost every trip that we had. anyways that's my 2cents.
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Re: 50 hour course

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Taxi Driver wrote:Is Pilot_king! the owner of the seaplane academe? Thats my guess what do you guys think?
That was my thought. But I also felt a number of other posters in this thread including the original poster were actually associated with some of the other float flying schools in the BC area. So . . . I guess what's good for one is good for all.
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Re: 50 hour course

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Pilot_king! wrote:Also, you are probably missing the point, you seem to be a professional debator rather than a professional.
I was going to remark on this silly statement, but being a professional, I'll bite my tongue. With all those hours you're building on the DOCK, you should be ready to apply to Jazz, soon.
Good Luck there Pilot King.

Maybe change your avatar to King Pilot, sounds better. And ask your parents for the rose colored raybans for Christmas. :smt040
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Re: 50 hour course

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Sorry Taxi Driver, I am not Pilot King. Nor other aliases. Nor would I slag what you do....or say you do.....
Once again, people with lots of time to be on a computer.....
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Re: 50 hour course

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Alright guys....definitely getting off track here.


If you want to get advanced skills and techniques and not take chances with your first stage - take the course. If you want to make contacts and get a job in the area - take the course.

If you have to borrow money because you feel its beneficial - good for you. If you have money because you have found other ways to make money while flying commercially ( own a house, 2 cars, assets) then investing money in the stock market or a car isn't worth it to you - take the course.

A few of my buddies and I from MRU have taken jobs with operators in the North and have all started working dispatch to gain experience in order to fly some of the most challenging missions in the world. (Some students have become jump pilots, flying weeknds and working restaurants weekdays, boring !!)
In the mean time, I am heading to the knife next week and will be learning more and more about twotters and flying in the Great Canadian North, with my rose raybans and gold aviators. See ya up there.
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Re: 50 hour course

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Last year I got my 7 hour float rating (Ok it, took me 7.2 hours :wink: ) and got a job on a dock. During those 3 months I spent catching planes, pumping floats and digging holes I learned much more then an extra 12K of empty 172 circuits could have ever taught me. Throwing bags, keeping my mouth shut and listening to what the "old timers" had to say was priceless. I eventually landed a full time gig on a 180 and drew vastly from my experience on the dock. The words of wisdom from numerous pilots with well over 10000 hours in the bush trump a docking in kelowna any day (although the scenery is much better in kelowna!)
Obviously, a 50 hour course will better equip you for that first job, but the same logic can be applied to paying for your own type rating on an airbus so you can be that much more ready for Cathay. Maybe we should introduce the 100 hour bush course? Better yet, 200 hours!! :? IMHO it is a waste of money and undermines all low time pilots out there searching for that first gig. The things that kept me safe for my first 600 hours in the bush came from the boys over a few brews, not from any instructor.
For the record, the employer I got my first job with did exactly what many have said on this thread already. He took me out, trained me in the area, sent me out on some empty legs and cut me loose, based on competence, not hours. I think thats the way it should be.

Just my thoughts though :)
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Re: 50 hour course

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Pilot_king! wrote: A few of my buddies and I from MRU have taken jobs with operators in the North and have all started working dispatch to gain experience in order to fly some of the most challenging missions in the world. (Some students have become jump pilots, flying weeknds and working restaurants weekdays, boring !!)
In the mean time, I am heading to the knife next week and will be learning more and more about twotters and flying in the Great Canadian North, with my rose raybans and gold aviators. See ya up there.
:lol:

I've heard a few stories from a pilot who flew Halifaxes in the War, so I guess my experience must be up there with Bob frikken Hoover. :mrgreen:

The jumper dumper pilots are going to have war stories of their own after a season. What other than human interest stories are you going to have from a season of dockwork at the Blade?
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Re: 50 hour course

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Sorry Taxi Driver, I am not Pilot King. Nor other aliases. Nor would I slag what you do....or say you do.....
Once again, people with lots of time to be on a computer.....
Randy!

Your above pos implies that I am slagging you.

I was under the impression that you owned Vancity Seaplanes. If I am incorrect feel free to let me know.

It doesn’t matter to me weather you are plugging your company or someone else’s under an alias after all this is just a unregulated internet forum and everything on it should be taken with a large grain of salt.

Regardless what I said was not a slag, it is simply my opinion that 50hour courses are a waist of time and money, but I am a true believer in capitalism and commend you for successfully selling them. I am sure that your lever of instruction is second to none ( not that I ever made that issue) and that the people get what they pay for.

I am not sure what you meant by
“or say you do
” but I am sure that it doesn’t matter.

The Pilot_King! Good luck up in Yellow Kinfe.
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Re: 50 hour course

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Roger, thank you.

I dont know flypie, we'll see. 8) 4 of us from our program are making tracks up there, maybe a crew house and flying jobs togther, sounds like a great seed for many stories to grow. Ill update you on avcanada, seems to be where you spend the majority of your flying. :lol:
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Re: 50 hour course

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This has been an interesting thread to read.

Pilot King...best of luck. Have fun up north. You're with a good outfit.

Randy...good luck with the school. Those that know you, know your background goes back a long time and far outside Canadian borders. We've known each other professionally for twenty years and I have a lot of respect for you and your integrity, as a person, a pilot and business man.

Good luck with the school. Nice to see it so busy.
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