Theoretically, what are my job prospects?

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Hey folks!

Well, now my pogey is officially done. It was a good ride, but now it's back to the real world. I got my degree in the mail yesterday, so now I'm ISTP- B.A. too, by the way.



I'm a 250ish hour wonder with a float rating with about 15 hours floats, a current multi-IFR. Which is basically SFA.

Now, I want to be able to be around my awesome girlfriend as much as possible. She's cool with me being home weekends only, but that will only last a year or so in my estimation. Then I'll want to be around her more. She ain't moving unless I'm making MASSIVE cash. So that's not gonna happen.

It's pretty much impossible for me to get a flying job at this point, given these parameters, BUT maybe you know different!

What do you think? Is old ISTP ready for a flying job commuting to and from Sudbury? Or am I gonna have to do other planning? Any tips?

All input is welcomed. And if this gets threadjacked by pro or anti-Palestinian or Israel stuff, I'm gonna recommend the mods yank it.

-istp

[grimey]

I think there are a bunch of guys in Gaza who'd welcome pilots to try to fly crap to them. Apply there.

[North Shore]

Why don't ya go and talk to Sudbury Aviation, and see if you can hook something up there?

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Was there today. They're all cool with what they have now, but thanks for the suggestion.

(and nice try, grimey )

[mattedfred]

dump the girlfriend, sell everything you own, buy the least expensive, reliable and fuel efficient car you can afford, buy a tent and a sleeping bag and go on a road trip until you find a flying job

what have you got to lose?

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It will make my chick sad. I can't do that. I'm in love.

[mattedfred]

congratulations

it will be a challenge to find a flying job that would afford you weekends off and the ability to commute back to YSB

i imagine that would be tough for pilots that work for JALP or AC let alone any pilot hired somewhere else

good luck

[cdnpilot77]

You can probably get a temp job working security for the G8/G20, but then the police might crack your skull because you are not a once bullied regular officer...

[Gorgons]

1st job, commuting, with weekends off? Not in your wildest dreams! Even if you had divine intervention and landed something like that I imagine it would be difficult to find a location that facilitated the ability to get off work early enough to check-in for a flight that got you home on a Friday night and departed late enough on a Sunday to allow you to actually have a weekend.

As far as girlfriends go at this early stage...my father once told me that hookers are cheaper in the long run, hands down.

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Not mine! She has a house, and hates shopping.

Yeah, after hanging out here for many years, I know my wishes are just pipe dreams at this point. I was just hoping someone knew of a secret little gem of a company out there.

And for some reason, I found this while googling. "stormtroopers"



Has nothing to do with my post, but I'm threadjacking myself.

[Gorgons]

The house is and can be a major expense, however whats the difference between a hurricane and a woman?

None...they both come into your life wet & wild and they always take the house!

[Darkwing Duck]

ISTP, jump in the car and go on that road trip, no matter how in love you are. If you want to fly, go for it, no matter how twitterpaitted you are. In 20yrs you may be in the league of a shoulda woulda coulda bagging groceries at the local Safeway, wishing you were on that heavy iron but you were too much in love. If you have a strong commitment and relationship then things will work out between you two.

I have seen too many guys get caught up in that scenario and now are wishing they were punching holes in the sky. Take it from someone who has been there, done that, got the tee shirt.

[Just another canuck]

ISTP, jump in the car and go on that road trip, no matter how in love you are. If you want to fly, go for it, no matter how twitterpaitted you are. In 20yrs you may be in the league of a shoulda woulda coulda bagging groceries at the local Safeway, wishing you were on that heavy iron but you were too much in love. If you have a strong commitment and relationship then things will work out between you two.

I have seen too many guys get caught up in that scenario and now are wishing they were punching holes in the sky. Take it from someone who has been there, done that, got the tee shirt.

+1

If she loves you, she'll understand and make the compromise.

[niss]

Has nothing to do with my post, but I'm threadjacking myself.

More pics like that and I will be 'threadjacking' myself too.

[Jack Klumpus]

You guys are nerds, these girls are ugly.

[bmc]

ISTP, jump in the car and go on that road trip, no matter how in love you are. If you want to fly, go for it, no matter how twitterpaitted you are. In 20yrs you may be in the league of a shoulda woulda coulda bagging groceries at the local Safeway, wishing you were on that heavy iron but you were too much in love. If you have a strong commitment and relationship then things will work out between you two.

+2

I could not have said it better. If you don't you'll resent her later on for killing your dreams.

[Sulako]

ISTP, jump in the car and go on that road trip, no matter how in love you are. If you want to fly, go for it, no matter how twitterpaitted you are. In 20yrs you may be in the league of a shoulda woulda coulda bagging groceries at the local Safeway, wishing you were on that heavy iron but you were too much in love. If you have a strong commitment and relationship then things will work out between you two.

+3. If it was meant to be, long-distance will be doable. It'll be a pain, but it'll be doable. Do a roadtrip and get a job. Buy a webcam and install Skype, and plan for a weekend visit every month or two. Send her cards and flowers during the week. Call her and chat a few times a day if possible. I did long-distance w. Lisa from 2003 - 2007 and though it was lonely, it was a means to a greater end. After that, I had enough hours to get a job at a good company with a good lifestyle. Did long distance suck? Yeah. Was it worth it? Yeah. If your woman is gonna go sideways on you, she's gonna go sideways whether or not you are long-distance. If she is gonna stick around, she'll understand the necessity of short-term sacrifice for long-term gain. Hell, she'll likely appreciate being with someone who is so driven, and who is following their dreams.

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Interesting comments. Very interesting...

I gotta do some thinking now.

[Brewguy]

So, you've got a degree now, eh? Cool.
In that case, direct entry officer into the Canadian Forces.

Okay, so it meets none of your criteria - but would be one heck of a good time!

[SeptRepair]

Lets keep it real here. Your girlfriend is young and there is a high chance she will be banging other people while your away and vice versa. Women in their youth for the most part are shallow and only care about what it is THEY are getting out of the relationship. They use emotional blackmail, crying on the phone how lonely they feel while your away, all the while making you feel guilty. Her friends will take her out to the bars to make her feel better, she will dance with other guys and eventually meet a guy who has a job in the same city and is making more then you. The romantic notion of having a boyfriend who is a pilot, who in all reality is making shit wages and is never home wont have the appeal it once did. The guy she just met dancing one night with the "girls", who is making 50 k a year, is home every night, and can afford to take her to mexico for a couple weeks on vacation starts to sound like a better opportunity. She will call every second day, then she will call once a week, then the next thing you know her number has changed and your not on her new contact list.
Buddy listen to the older guys who have been in aviation through their teens, 20's and 30's There are exceptions to this scenario I have just described, but for the most part this plays out more often then you think. I have numerous friends who are now single, but have child support payments because their ex wives couldn't handle them being away and started banging other guys when they were away in camp. Theses are all guys under the age of 30. They still work away in camp and are away more then they are home and now see their children even less because their visitation doesn't float like there shifts do. If I were you. Drop her, go out and enjoy life and when you hit your mid 30's then think about settling down and making a go at a relationship. Trust me. Im an expert on relationships. I have been married 4 times.

[Just another canuck]

Im an expert on relationships. I have been married 4 times.

Not sure if "expert" would be the word I would choose to describe your relationship skills...

... But I do agree with you in a way... like you said, there are exceptions. But this isn't just women that will do this... most people will. Long distance relationships rarely work out. It takes a very special couple for it to work.

istp, do what your heart tells you... my simple advice is don't let a woman, or anyone for that matter, sway your decision. Do what YOU NEED to do to be happy and the rest will come. If flying is your dream, then you best be flying.

Cheers and good luck.

[Rowdy]

I can tell you this. NONE of my flying/long distance relationships have worked. Slot me in with the group mentioned above.

That was a perfect description. crying, whining, a whole lot of guilt pushed my way.

I know you're a little older now and have been married before.. so that leaves you a bit behind the ol' eight ball.

If you're gonna do this whole flying thing.. you're gonna have to just suck it up and go for it. remember this.. every year you arent flying.. there are at least a thousand new CPL's out there vying for the same jobs.. and after a year.. they're gonna have more time then you.. doesnt take long and the group is 1000, 1500, 2000hrs ahead. So get on it quick and get going.

Best of luck to ya man.. whatever is is you choose to do. But I know you really do want to fly.

[SeptRepair]

Im an expert on relationships. I have been married 4 times.

Not sure if "expert" would be the word I would choose to describe your relationship skills...

lol, I know, its an old saying I heard and it made me laugh. So of course I use it when the topic of relationships come up. I can honestly say I do not know many guys in aviation that are with their first spouse. Most guys are paying support and living in apartments while their ex whores live in the family home that they paid for with their sacrifices of being away. Its a raw deal and ultimately its all about whats best for the children, so suffice to say, the child's lives are disrupted as little as possible and the mother being the primary caregiver ( even though she is a cheating whore) reaps the benefits of her infidelity and the guy is left continually being the one to suffer. All you young guys getting into this industry make dam sure you put your extra money away in cash in a safety deposit box that she has no clue about. You WILL eventually need this money to fall back on. I should charge for this advice, but being a soft hearted guy I'm giving it away free. Much like the last 2 houses, dogs, cats, etc.

[Mihai]

hey istp
liste, i'm pretty much in the same situation as you are... looking for my first job. my gf knew from the beginning that i'll have to move away to build hours in the beginning. i guess she was ok with it. we've been together for more than 2 years and now we agreed that whatever will happen will happen... i'll be gone as long as i need to and she will finish her degree in the meantime.
sure, it'll be hard - what we feel for eachother might be strong enough, or we might find someone else after some time... but she knows flying is what i want to do and she will never hold me back.

I saw a movie not long ago, cant remember the name... a chick flick by the same guy who made the notebook. i thought it was interesting, the young soldier went to Afghanistan for a while and was supposed to go back home to his girl (and live happily ever after) but when 9/11 came, they were asked if they want to stay and of course, he had to stay. anyways... made me think.........

[Cougar]

Stick with doing what YOU want.

No one else is going to take care of you other than you.

Animals and airplanes, you can depend on.... but, spouses and significant others, etc.?? NOT so much.

Just be sure to have fun along the way!!