Fair-and-balanced "truth" heads north

[Icebound]

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http://fullcomment.nationalpost.com/201 ... edia-bias/

The bias crowd has less interest in results like those obtained by the University of Maryland in 2003 where it was found that a person was far more likely to believe provably wrong right-wing notions (like the idea Saddam Hussein was connected to 9/11) if their main information source was Fox News. The best informed people were listening to that Chardonnay-swilling, communist operation NPR. These days Fox seems to have gleefully quit the unbiased masquerade.

The network enjoys runaway ratings partially because it not only gives more coverage to the right but even cheerleads for Tea Party events.

[Hedley]

So the Left wing feels it is justified in censoring the Right wing because they don't agree with them?

That attitude is scarier than anything the Right has ever said.

[North Shore]

Ahhh, Earth to Hedley, over. The only person who's mentioning censoring here, in this context, is you....

[Hedley]

The article states that we don't "need" this so-called "right wing" station.

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/censor

defines:

–noun
1. an official who examines books, plays, news reports, motion pictures, radio and television programs, letters, cablegrams, etc., for the purpose of suppressing parts deemed objectionable on moral, political, military, or other grounds.

If one denies a station a licence on political grounds, that meets the dictionary definition of censorship.

Now, do you think that the dictionary is out to get you?

[. ._]

I didn't read anything about censoring.

But I think we need more left in our news. That's just me talkin'.

-istp

[North Shore]

Indeed, it does say 'need'. Again, however, I fail to see where it advocates for refusing the application for a licence on any grounds. The dictionary isn't after me like the facts, as presented in this article, are you....

ETA: I suppose, however, that in the end, what matters is not the opinions of two basement-dwelling teenagers like us, but the judgement of the marketplace. One wonders if the financial reports of the National Post have been considered?

[BibleMonkey]

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http://fullcomment.nationalpost.com/201 ... edia-bias/

The bias crowd has less interest in results like those obtained by the University of Maryland in 2003 where it was found that a person was far more likely to believe provably wrong right-wing notions (like the idea Saddam Hussein was connected to 9/11) if their main information source was Fox News. The best informed people were listening to that Chardonnay-swilling, communist operation NPR. These days Fox seems to have gleefully quit the unbiased masquerade.

The network enjoys runaway ratings partially because it not only gives more coverage to the right but even cheerleads for Tea Party events.

....Balance isn’t what a new conservative news network will be seeking. They’re more interested in sealing the bell jar around the alternative reality of the Conservative base. During an exchange with me on CTV’s question period this weekend Ezra Levant declared The Nature of Things host David Suzuki to be a “propagandist.” Of course Levant is not insisting that Suzuki is undermining conservative fiscal policy when he describes the breeding habits of dung beetles. His complaint is that Suzuki is on side with the overwhelming majority of his fellow scientists on the matter of climate change.

To the hard right, established science is just “the other side of the story”.

There is absolutely no question that Suzuki is a propagandist, and it is beneficial to have a broader range of information sources, so that such facts can be communicated to the electorate.

( The article itself is biased-of course, none are immune -by alleging a [ purported ] popularity as a method of deriving scientific validity, in some sort of attempted weak defense of the popular alarmist geneticist. )

Such disinformation ( one sided-ness on any issue ) leads to uncritical and dominant acceptance of such skewed policies as the government of Alberta expending 2 billion dollars on sequestering carbon- tilting at the windmills generated by alarm-ism, while cutting health care and introducing drastic ( albeit far smaller than 2 billion dollars ) cuts to the education budget, which indisputably create visible ,immediate and more accurately measurable harm.

You will not get the 'truth' in any media, more it is a matter of deciding which sheepdogs bark will be loudest in herding the flock.

The Sad Legacy Of David Suzuki

Your article is just one ( biased ) bark at another. e.g "even support the tea party
"alternative reality of the Conservative base" etc.

The truth is in raw data, and math, not in passing judgement on how reporters re sequence some of the 800,000 words in the english language.

[The Old Fogducker]

I'd like to put on my broadcaster's hat again and go to work for them.

I predict they will pull a viable market share, and be a financial success.....but the latter depends on having a good Sales Manager and motivated Sales Staff. They will be up against heavy price cutting from the CBC, CTV, and Global ... the moment they get an advertiser on-air, sales people from the Big 3 will be over at the advertiser's doorstep within hours and offer them a special 99% off rate if they drop their contract with Sun TV. Starve 'em out .... that's how the game is played.

Proof of market viability is required as part of the Communist Radio and Telecommunications Comrades (CRTC) licence application process, as is producing a business plan for a seven year interval ... the normal period of licence validity.

They will have done an extensive market survey by some company like Angus Reid, etc and it will have shown an underserved population of TV viewers.

Further, if the Liberal Komrades over at the CRTC Politburo designate the channel as a "must carry" by Broadcast Distribution Undertaking (DBUs) ... cable and satellite systems ... then subscription fees from other "tier stations" will be given to the programmer as well as revenues from advertisers and program production facility rentals. That helps out a lot.

It will be fun to watch the hearings and the negative interventions which the Communist Broadcasting Corporation will file ... a lot of moaning and peeing in their corn flakes over market fragmentation, no need in the marketplace for an additional programmer during such hard economic times when the government can only barely be squeezed for enough money to air the CBC's pro NDP, Green, and Liberal Party agenda material. Surely, you can't expect them to broadcast material favourable to the Conservative Party too.

They have lots of actors over at the CBC studios, maybe they can send over a few to prostrate themselves at the feet of the CRTC Czars, looking up from the floor with fake tears in their eyes saying it will be the death of Canadian Broadcasting as it has come to be known, (thanks to the Mother Corp.) if such a station were to be licensed in good old Canuckistan.....land of success confiscation, and wealth redistribution to the undeserving who vote for increased benefits with zero negative impact.

Besides, heaven forbid .... they may follow the staffing policy of the most successful cable news station, and hire hideous women such as Megan Kelly, Kimberly Guilfoyle, Lise Whiel, Martha McCallum, and other offensive, unqualified law degree holding reporters that have been defense and prosecution attorneys.

Bring it on! Its time for some political diversity on air in this country.

Hey ... maybe they could use an "aviation stringer" to cover some segments and add commentary on crashes.

I could put on my old CKLW 20-20 News style delivery, and come up with some spectacular stuff I think ... a video version of this radio content presented in video format....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BDCdbmwy9l8

http://thebig8.net/2020.wav

By the way, CKLW Windsor, was in the top five most listened to radio stations in North America in 1970.

The Old Fogducker

[BibleMonkey]

...http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BDCdbmwy9l8..at 5 minutes in:...

"And so sometimies things would get out of control.

' This is Randal Carlyle CKLW 20 20 news . The stench of young burning flesh rose over Port Huron this morning, as baby hungry flames ate alive five little boys"

I thought it was creative. The second I got off, the phone lights up , and Byron on the phone says "Randal, there's a fine line we don't cross, and you just crossed it.
And if you cross it again, you won't have a job"...5:30..

heh heh heh.
I would listen to a radio station like that, if there were any .
Reminds me of A Raymond Chandler book.

[Siddley Hawker]

We got Al-Jazeera, why not KARL-TV?

[The Old Fogducker]

BM ... they listened in the millions per week ... When I worked there it was 2 million, 265 thousand people tuned in and listened per week. Ranked up there with WABC New York, WLS Chicago, KHJ Los Angeles, and WIBG Philladelphia.

They "owned" over 30% of the Detroit and area radio market ... that meant in an area with more than 45 radio stations, one in every three radios at any moment were tuned to "The Big 8, CKLW."

[The Old Fogducker]

Siddley ... but you forget, Al-Jazeera reflects Canadian values.

Also, the sanitized Al-Jazeera we get here isn't the same Al-Jazeera as is broadcast to the main market of the mid-east ... way more insightful stuff on the main network ... lots of US and Isreali flag burning, AK-47's being fired skyward, funerals, etc.

The Old Fogducker

[The Old Fogducker]

Here's a quick add-on .... now tell me, just how right-wing radical can this new sation be if they hired an ex CBC News guy to head things up at the National News Desk?

I think its all a plot ... the last guy to leave the CBC Senior Mgt was Tony Burman, who went over to run Al-Jazeera. This guy Tobias Fisher will have been tainted by the office culture of the CBC.

So, my street radical friends, move along ... nothing new to see here. Remove your bandanas, take the gasoline out of your Molotov Cocktails, and find somewhere else to go and turn over a cop car, or break a few department store windows.

OFD




Quebecor Media Inc.: Veteran Journalist Joins "Hard News" Team

Tobias Fisher named National News Editor for the Ottawa Bureau

OTTAWA, ONTARIO--(Marketwire - June 16, 2010) - Quebecor Media Inc. is pleased to announce Tobias Fisher as its new National News Editor for the Ottawa Bureau of the QMI Agency. Tobias will manage the operations of the National Bureau and assist in preparing for the launch of the Sun TV News channel, set to launch January 1, 2011.

Tobias Fisher is a 28-year veteran of television news, working as a network producer and reporter for Global, CTV and most recently CBC. Over that period, Fisher has covered Parliament Hill for 17 years, dating back to the Repatriation Debate and the Meech Lake Accord. He has produced campaign coverage for five federal elections. He also has been posted to bureaus in Toronto, Calgary and Washington, where he covered American politics for six years. Fisher is the son of the late Doug Fisher, former dean of the Parliamentary Press Gallery, and a Sun political columnist for more than 30 years.

Tobias Fisher has twice been nominated for Gemini Awards.

"Tobias is among the most respected and talented journalists in Canada," said Kory Teneycke, VP Development for Quebecor Media. "He will be an invaluable addition to our Hard News team as we prepare for the launch of Sun TV News."

[Dash-Ate]

No need to watch it let me sum it up:


"They" hate our freedoms (muslims living in oil rich countries)

Despite being taught to hate them, we actually want to "liberate" them. Operation ______ Freedom (vigilant hawk glorious liberty or some bs)


People who have normal relationships and who band together for local good are BAD (see: unions, community groups, government watchdogs, freedom groups, trade organizations).

Those who support trans national corporations = good


You are with us (right/religious fundementalist/warmonger) or against us (left/terrorist/pinko/commie/professor/vegan/femi-nazi/peaceful person)

Thou shalt never utter that the MOST profitable business is WAR.

Thou shalt kill many brown people over seas, using WMD.


We face a constant and never ending threat from communists, ...err I mean russians... err I mean islamists (but not the chinese communists, they are our #1 trade partner! NEVER criticize that brutal regime. And don't even think about 'liberating' them...)


Israel is a sane, non racist, non violent, peaceful victim who does not genocide or steal land or impose collective punishment and torture.


Lastly, ISLAM is CRAZY!!! Them and their imaginary magical sky god.

(but that other religion is not crazy, you know the one where they cut off the most sensitive part of a man's body after birth, where they don't eat our food, they don't attend our schools, they don't follow the 10 commandments, they have to pray at certain times during the day, and cannot use modern conveniences at certain times of the week or year and also wear a skullcap (like islam...). And who have a different imaginary magical sky god. And think they are the "selected ones."

Yep those guys, this is all perfectly SANE...we're not allowed to mention otherwise...riiight...we must support them and send "aid" every year.


Got it? Class dismissed

[The Old Fogducker]

Nope ... we just like killing them for the entertainment value.

Makes for some great stories on Saturday night over a case of beer to describe how they danced around after a nice clean head shot.

There ... does that fit into your stereotype?

[Siddley Hawker]

Also, the sanitized Al-Jazeera we get here isn't the same Al-Jazeera as is broadcast to the main market of the mid-east...

Yeah Foggy, pity we don't get that channel. Remember the dancing in the streets and the passing-out of tea and bekkies after 9-11? 'Course that may have been just Reuters with their version of events.

[Hedley]

IMHO both Al-Jazeera and Fox should be allowed to have radio & TV stations in Canada. I don't personally agree with the tiresome and biased content of either, but that's irrelevant.

Censorship is a scary, slippery slope that is worse than either of the above.

"The wicked fleeth the light".

[. ._]

I'm with ya there, Hedley. And I'd also like to see this channel on cable.

http://reallyfairandbalanced.com/

-istp

[Siddley Hawker]

IMHO both Al-Jazeera and Fox should be allowed to have radio & TV stations in Canada.

You'll get no argument from me on that Hedley. They should both be allowed to either succeed or fail on their own merits.

[The Old Fogducker]

Oh heaven forbid .... NO!

The concept that a broadcast outlet in Canuckistan should survive or fail on its own merits flys in the face of the CRTC policy of licensing stations.

Just where the heck do you guys think you're living?

A thread so valuable to maintaining the tightly woven diverse cultural fabric of Canada deserves a guarantee of protection from failure through an influx of taxpayers dollars. Therefore Al Jazeera should be underwritten, encouraged, protected and cared for like a delicate tropical plant being cultivated for its beauty in an intemperate climate ... some might even say coddled. Most certainly, it should be given maximum latitude with respect to what some louts may, in their intolerence, call "good taste."

The Old (Gimme a mike) Fogducker

[cdnpilot77]

(but not the chinese communists, they are our #1 trade partner! NEVER criticize that brutal regime. And don't even think about 'liberating' them...)

Got it? Class dismissed

Not even close!!

Canada's Major Trading Partners - 2008
Canada is a major trading nation whose combined value of exports and imports is the equivalent of more than two-thirds of the country's GDP. Canada trades with the world but its main trading partner is the U.S., accounting for roughly three-quarters of trade and the majority of capital moving in and out of Canada.


Canada's Top 10 Export Markets by Country, 2008
Country % Share of
Total Exports
United States 77.7
United Kingdom 2.7
Japan 2.3
China 2.2
Mexico 1.2
Germany 0.9
Netherlands 0.8
South Korea 0.8
Belgium 0.7
France 0.7
Total of Top 10 90.0


Canada's Top 10 Import Markets by Country, 2008
Country % Share of
Total Imports
United States 52.4
China 9.8
Mexico 4.1
Japan 3.5
Germany 2.9
United Kingdom 2.9
Algeria 1.8
France 1.4
Norway 1.4
South Korea 1.4
Total of Top 10 81.6

[TG]

IMHO both Al-Jazeera and Fox should be allowed to have radio & TV stations in Canada. I don't personally agree with the tiresome and biased content of either, but that's irrelevant.

So we can watch Al-Jazeera middle east version and Fox to make our own unbiased mind afterward


Al-Jazeera can show some pretty graphic videos sometime to prove their "news" point of views.
Nobody need to speak Arabic to figure out what is going on when they do so, holly cr@p!

[Icebound]

So the Left wing feels it is justified in censoring the Right wing because they don't agree with them?

That attitude is scarier than anything the Right has ever said.

The left is "afraid" of the right only because the "right" is a religion. . .. Much like the right is afraid of Islam.
It does not help that the right is prone to spreading "demonstrably false" misinformation, such as Obama's non-American birthplace , or the connection between Saddam and 9-11. These become tenets of the religion and the facts don't matter.

This forum has already agreed that religion. .. is a bad thing

[Hedley]

It does not help that the right is prone to spreading "demonstrably false" misinformation

So, left-wingers always tell the truth and never distort the facts?

How old are you? Does your mother know you're using the computer without adult supervision?

[Siddley Hawker]

The left is "afraid" of the right only because the "right" is a religion.

They got some pretty good cults on the left also.

Trudeaumania (an eponym derived from Pierre Trudeau's name), continued during the subsequent federal election campaign and during Mr. Trudeau's early years as Prime Minister of Canada.

Obamania: The irrational exuberance of the voluntarily duped masses by a master of manipulation.