Maintenance releas on US Experimental A/C in Canada

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Maintenance releas on US Experimental A/C in Canada

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I am triing to find the requirements to sign off a N reg experimental A/C in Canada. Does anyone now where I can find it. Can a AME do it or do you need to be a A&P or have a repairmans cert.
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What kind of experimental? There are several different types.

Generally, an A&P is permitted to sign off a "condition inspection" for an N-reg experimental aircraft - it is NOT an "annual inspection" which requires an A&P/IA.

Once you figure out what the FAA wants, then you can try to map it to Canadian qualifications.
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I don't know what the certs are on the experimental yet. It is a warbird.
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ha, it's experimental and from another country, the guy flying could probably sign it off, don't put your name on it unless you really really want to.
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Ignore the above nonsensical post.

If it is FAA experimental/exhibition, it needs a "condition inspection" signed off yearly by an A&P (not an A&P/IA). See the paperwork accompanying the pink C of A - it will tell you exactly what has to be done, wrt continuing airworthiness. Likely FAR part 43 App D will feature prominently. Look at previous condition inspection signoffs.

Note that like a certified FAA aircraft, you want to do a careful AD search and ensure compliance. This has been argued about for decades, but yes Virginia, AD's apply to experimental aircraft. Read this:

http://www.airweb.faa.gov/Regulatory_an ... C39-7C.pdf

Here's FAR part 43 App D:

http://ecfr.gpoaccess.gov/cgi/t/text/te ... .363.14.55
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Non-sensical, no, to the point, yes.

A foreign a/c without a type certificate operating no doubt under a special flight authority must be signed out by the foreign guy unless your AMO is appropriately rated and has an agreement in place. A restricted cert. autority could be issued by TC. The owner of the plane should know all this stuff already unless he's flying around without a flight authority in which case you're getting the wool pulled over your eyes. What type of A/C is it? did it have a type cert or is it out of production? There are many variables when dealing with foreign and experimental a/c. CAR's lays it out pretty clearly and if you have any questions, talk to your local TCC they are quite helpful regarding such matters.
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If the aircraft is registered in the US you need to refer to the CFR's FAR 43.17 as the FAA is the top dog on this.
"(1) A person holding a valid Transport Canada Civil Aviation Maintenance Engineer license and appropriate ratings may, with respect to a U.S.-registered aircraft located in Canada, perform maintenance, preventive maintenance, and alterations in accordance with the requirements of paragraph (d) of this section and approve the affected aircraft for return to service in accordance with the requirements of paragraph (e) of this section."
http://www.faa.gov/regulations_policies/

There are some other provisios that you need to read. An AME cannot sign for an annual inspection and cannot sign for a major repair or alteration.
An AMO can sign for a major repair or alteration but cannot sign for an annual.
The same goes for an A&P or IA - They cannot sign for an annual on Canadian registered aircraft.
They FAA is the one that will tell you what you can or cannot sign out. TC is only responsible for authorizing which persons or companies can sign. The bilateral agreement and the Maintenance Implementation procedures apply as well.
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Wrong again.
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Re: Maintenance releas on US Experimental A/C in Canada

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Hedley, you are a douche or you didn't read the first part of the post about the a/c being reg'd experimental nor did you read your FAR's before posting the link, anything can be done in Canada as long as it's approved, including majour mods or repairs.

Part 43 also states:

(b) This part does not apply to

(1) Any aircraft for which the FAA has issued an experimental certificate, unless the FAA has previously issued a different kind of airworthiness certificate for that aircraft; or


The experimental flight authority will lay out what is required, the experimental flight authority will also state where and for how long the a/c can be operated. All of this info can be found in FAR part 91 (91.319) if you want to get technical.

I say good day to you sir.
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I have never heard of an experimental/exhibition "warbird" being operated commercially under part 121/135 hence TCA MSI 55 is irrelevant to this discussion.
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