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tripleseven
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Re: Truckers

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200, I find your statement difficult to read, due to grammar deficiencies. Perhaps all the double and triple negatives are confusing you. And its not a legal technicality, or loop hole. It is a law. My RCMP friend agrees, as does his RCMP/ex trucker wife. So do the MLA's who believe that the merit of having sufficient visibility to see while driving on a highway outweighs the inconvenience of an oncoming driver in another lane that is more than 22m away.

And yes, I passed the cog test.
tellyourkidstogetarealjob wrote:If 100% of truckers and 25% of others flash you: YOU are the problem.

If 50% of truckers and 10% of others flash you: YOU are the problem.

If 10% of truckers and 2% of others flash you: YOU are the problem.

If 2% of truckers and 1% of others flash you: YOU are the problem.

If 0.1% of truckers and 0.01% of others flash you: THEY may be the problem, but probably not.

I've driven hundreds of thousands of kilometres at night over the years. I've only been flashed by truckers a half dozen times. Usually when I'm very tired and forget to dip my lights.

Perhaps one private vehicle in a thousand flashes me. Maybe.
Now I think that the problem is that the so called "professional" drivers are ignorant of the rules that govern their trade. Kinda shameful. What about the relatively new law that limits wheel time in a day, similar to our duty day? Judging by the number of 18 wheeler marks in the ditches, they either don't care, or haven't heard about it yet.
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Re: Truckers

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I have no idea what a typical pilot's duty day is like? A trucker driver in Ontario can be on duty 14 out of any 24 hour period, and needs to have one consecutive 24 hour off duty period every 2 weeks. A large number of those truck marks you see in the ditch aren't caused by sleepy truckers, they are caused by alert truckers who would rather ditch their truck than kill the idiot in the car that just did something totally assinine in front of him.

One particular peeve of mine is in the crappy winter weather. You come up on a car, and they speed up because they don't want the truck to pass them and maybe kick up some spray on their poor little selves. George Carlin used to have a routine that said when you are driving, anyone that you pass is an idiot, and anybody that passes you is an asshole. Well, I don't happen to think that a car I'm passing in the snow is being driven by an idiot. Good for him for showing the good judgement to be driving at what he perceives to be a safe speed. However, that doesn't bind me to thinking that speed is what's safe for me. So, if he wants to drive 75kmh and I feel safe at 85kmh, then that's what I'm going to do. Truth is, if crap happens, we both are driving too fast anyway. So why does this guy think it's a safe thing to do to speed up past his own safe speed to now get into a race with me? If I decide the safe thing is to not race him to see how fast he wants to go, and pull in behind, then he starts riding his brakes because he doesn't want me there. He may think I'm now an asshole, but I know for sure he's an idiot LOL.
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Re: Truckers

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tripleseven wrote:200, I find your statement difficult to read, due to grammar deficiencies. Perhaps all the double and triple negatives are confusing you. And its not a legal technicality, or loop hole. It is a law. My RCMP friend agrees, as does his RCMP/ex trucker wife. So do the MLA's who believe that the merit of having sufficient visibility to see while driving on a highway outweighs the inconvenience of an oncoming driver in another lane that is more than 22m away.

And yes, I passed the cog test.
tellyourkidstogetarealjob wrote:If 100% of truckers and 25% of others flash you: YOU are the problem.

If 50% of truckers and 10% of others flash you: YOU are the problem.

If 10% of truckers and 2% of others flash you: YOU are the problem.

If 2% of truckers and 1% of others flash you: YOU are the problem.

If 0.1% of truckers and 0.01% of others flash you: THEY may be the problem, but probably not.

I've driven hundreds of thousands of kilometres at night over the years. I've only been flashed by truckers a half dozen times. Usually when I'm very tired and forget to dip my lights.

Perhaps one private vehicle in a thousand flashes me. Maybe.
Now I think that the problem is that the so called "professional" drivers are ignorant of the rules that govern their trade. Kinda shameful. What about the relatively new law that limits wheel time in a day, similar to our duty day? Judging by the number of 18 wheeler marks in the ditches, they either don't care, or haven't heard about it yet.
What "new law" is this? Duty days have been in place for truckers for over a decade. Anyway you are in the wrong and bitchin here isn't going to make you right. Keep driving like an ass and you will continue to receive the same treatment from other drivers for some time. Maybe there is a knitting forum or a scrabble forum that will give a shit about your issue.
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Re: Truckers

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tripleseven wrote:And yes, I passed the cog test.
Scary :shock:

So yes, continue to drive with your high beam. This way, as you wrote 'You will see'
The fact that 'You' will blind others by keeping your high beam when you shouldn't (screwing up their night vision) doesn't seems to bother you is even more scary!

A bit like keeping your landing lights on a taxiway when facing the landing path of an aircraft.
You will see, they will be blind.
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Re: Truckers

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777, you could not leave it alone could you. Like 200hr wonder said, after a year, really???? Pull your head out of your ass and give your head a shake. Face it, you lost. It is not about the law, it is just common courtesy.

But if you insist to leave the high beams on then go for it, this could leave you a recipient of a Darwin award, after the trucker who was blinded by your lights gets into a head-on with you. Guaranteed, you will not win that one.

Let them truckers roll, 10-4.
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My guess is 777 is related to 767 on this forum.

Their ignorance is funny to read, but the reality that they might be serious is sobering :roll:
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Re: Truckers

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Darkwing Duck wrote:777, you could not leave it alone could you. Like 200hr wonder said, after a year, really???? Pull your head out of your ass and give your head a shake. Face it, you lost. It is not about the law, it is just common courtesy.

But if you insist to leave the high beams on then go for it, this could leave you a recipient of a Darwin award, after the trucker who was blinded by your lights gets into a head-on with you. Guaranteed, you will not win that one.

Let them truckers roll, 10-4.
Anyone who gets into a head on while traveling on a divided highway deserves at least a nomination.
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