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so? is that it?

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Are the interviews over?
Is it a case of, "if you haven't been called for one by now, you're out of luck"?
Heard there would be three ground schools.

Yes, I applied, was hoping to get called but no such luck.
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Re: so? is that it?

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I'm sure you're not the only one wondering.

Anyone?
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Re: so? is that it?

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I can tell you that we add over 1000 application for 45 opening.

Pourdu :(
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Re: so? is that it?

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Pourdu_fun wrote:I can tell you that we add over 1000 application for 45 opening.

Pourdu :(
1000 seems kind of low, I would have expected 2000-3000 applicants.
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Re: so? is that it?

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Considering there's about 10 000 active airline pilots in Canada, it's not that bad...
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Re: so? is that it?

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Im not sure what the summer groundschool schedule is like, but there will most likely be more hiring in the fall. We should have an equipment bid next month, which should give us an idea of where the crews will be needed. Also, come spring time, we'll have the Q400s, so we'll need to have crews for those as well. So if you havent gotten a call yet, I wouldnt worry about it.
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Re: so? is that it?

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TopperHarley wrote:.... we'll have the Q400s, so we'll need to have crews for those as well.
Aren't those crews coming from within as RJs are being retired?

I thought the only reason there's hiring at Jazz is because of the addition of 757s which opened up 40 spots.
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Re: so? is that it?

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2775PSI wrote:
TopperHarley wrote:.... we'll have the Q400s, so we'll need to have crews for those as well.
Aren't those crews coming from within as RJs are being retired?

I thought the only reason there's hiring at Jazz is because of the addition of 757s which opened up 40 spots.
Im pretty sure most of those RJs are already out of the fleet. A bunch of us RJ drivers were displaced over the last few months onto the dash because of it. I dont know how many more, if any, are to be removed. They could already all be gone.
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Re: so? is that it?

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TopperHarley wrote:
2775PSI wrote:
TopperHarley wrote:.... we'll have the Q400s, so we'll need to have crews for those as well.
Aren't those crews coming from within as RJs are being retired?

I thought the only reason there's hiring at Jazz is because of the addition of 757s which opened up 40 spots.
Im pretty sure most of those RJs are already out of the fleet. A bunch of us RJ drivers were displaced over the last few months onto the dash because of it. I dont know how many more, if any, are to be removed. They could already all be gone.

I think 6 have been removed from the fleet so far and 1 transfered to charters.
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Re: so? is that it?

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All the 150 fins (8) have been removed, there were to be 2 of the older (yah, funny, I know ) 100's were to go also. Not sure of the status of those
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Re: so? is that it?

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The original fleet consists of 133 aircraft covered under the CPA and 4 Dash 8 Charter aircraft. After renegotiation of the CPA, the covered aircraft is to be reduced to 125, with 8 "swing" aircraft. At present, 8 RJ's have been returned to the lessor and another 2 directed to the "charter" side. So there are currently 123 aircraft devoted to the CPA and 6 to the Charter operation.

With the arrival of the first 2 Q400's in the spring of 2011, the CPA covered aircraft will increase to 125 and subsequent to that, with each Q400 introduced to the fleet, an RJ will be removed (the first 8 RJ's, will become the "swing" aircraft). After that, the remaining Q400's introduced will replace an RJ. There is no planned increase in the number of aircraft with respect to the CPA with AC. Any growth (fleet size) will be the result of any future business endeavour.

As I understand it, the hiring planned of (45) is to handle the additional pilots required to cover flying as a result of the Thomas Cook deal coming into being. I suspect there will be more hiring due to attrition in the coming year.
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Re: so? is that it?

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Are you sure those 8 RJs have been returned, I just heard about a month ago that due to the higher than anticipated block for the summer, they delayed the return of those RJs. Until????
Although, I just looked on the website and it shows a total of 128. Only one RJ in charters and 4 Dash.
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Re: so? is that it?

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OK, I stand corrected, only one RJ has been directed to the Charter side. However, those 8 RJ's that everyone has been talking about are gone. The CPA covered aircraft stands at 123 for now until the arrival of the Q400's.
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Re: so? is that it?

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Well that's good, I didn't even notice they were gone and we're hiring. I was a little concerned about how it would affect the blocking. Wasn't trying to correct you by the way, just pointing it only listed one RJ, there could be 5 of them in the charter side for all I know. The site is not always up to date.
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Re: so? is that it?

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Rumour has it all Jazz groundschools are cancelled for the summer..... :?
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Re: so? is that it?

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Well the Assistant CP here in YYZ just confirmed that all ground schools for this year have been cancelled (for now). He said that the new contract allows for leaner reserve coverage. Before the bid comes out in August they'll revisit the numbers again. I can't believe that we're "properly" crewed right now...reserve is already lean and I keep getting called for overtime without even signing up for it! And I usually have a few trips to choose from. With people leaving for other companies (WJ, Transat, overseas, etc.) I imagine they won't be able avoid running ground schools this year.

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Re: so? is that it?

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So the ability to do more overtime in a month cost jobs. I never ever work overtime, not because I couldn't use the money, I don't get enough time at home as it is, never mind working overtime. So, what next are the WDO hogs going to cause some layoffs too???
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Re: so? is that it?

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What?! I put in my 2 weeks notice at my current job on Friday afternoon.
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Re: so? is that it?

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Did people actually get called for the July 19th gs, and then it was cancelled? or just did the interviews and then got a letter stating that the gs had been cancelled?
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Re: so? is that it?

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That is terrible for those who quit their jobs for Jazz only to get the rug pulled out from under them. Lets hope all the folk's previous employers take them back
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Re: so? is that it?

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Is this not the 2nd time they've done this in a row? I believe they played this game last year too. Why go through the process of putting an ad out, calling people for interviews, putting successful candidates to sim, then further through to the medical only to pull the plug and say they're going to cancel or hold off or whatever? This is a ridiculous thing to have to see happen twice. I feel bad for those people who were recalled from last years pool, only to get the same notice of another canceled ground school. What about those without work who turned down job offers because they made it far enough to the medical (while waiting for a course date) and were keeping themselves ready to go for Jazz?

I hope this is only a rumor and if it's not, I hope it's not being canceled. If it's true, I've lost a lot of respect for Jazz (not it's employees). Smarten up Jazz!!!
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Re: so? is that it?

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rooster wrote: What about those without work who turned down job offers because they made it far enough to the medical (while waiting for a course date) and were keeping themselves ready to go for Jazz?
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I truely hope that there is people out there that are not working that turned down jobs because they made it to the medical.. Doing the medical does not mean that you got the job by any means.
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Re: so? is that it?

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I hope its not true.... if it is, who the hell is going to trust Jazz anymore?!?

I got a call for an interview but turned it down because I was worried about this crap.
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Re: so? is that it?

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The reason that I was given for canceling the GS was that the new reserve rules allow for leaner reserve coverage overall, hence no need to "fatten up". Even still, I think there will be a need for hiring this year at some point. Yesterday I ran into a skipper from YUL and an FO from YHZ who were covering YYZ flying. I'm on reserve this month and working my butt off. Last night we had a conference call and some union execs were on it, and they figured that at least some hiring would be needed this year. The bid in August will tell the story.

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Re: so? is that it?

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well, can someone explain to me how they can move 60-70 YYZ RJ pilots to the 757 and not do any hiring??? Someone has to fill those vacancies, whether they come in the form of Dash pilots from YYZ and other bases, reinstated RJ pilots, etc.

Anyone, anyone?

And another thing....as much as I like the TA, should we be voting it in if it has the ability to deter hiring? Doesn't hiring give people seniority which in turn means a better lifestyle?

Or is management just using that excuse right now...a subtle shot in the ribs, a back hand across the face, a kick in the nards...well, you get the point... :D
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