ADHD
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Meatservo
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Re: ADHD
I find being able to produce the membership card during an argument really increases my chances of winning it quickly. It's petty I realise, but that's life.Lost Lake wrote: I am tested at a Mensan level.
I don't know much about ADHD either. My wife accuses me of suffering from it but I'm not sure she knows what she's talking about. I would have to say if you can pass the tests and master the training without taking medicine, then you have every right to pursue aviation as a career. What is life like for you when you don't take the medicine? Is it worth stopping for the rest of your working days just so you can fly? This is what I would ask myself. If it's worth it and you can do it safely, go for it! I know lots of pilots who seem to me as though they suffer from much more severe mental issues than ADHD. Not to belittle your experiences, of course.
If I'd known I was going to live this long, I'd have taken better care of myself
Re: ADHD
Hey meatservo,
This affliction was around before it was given a name. Probably overused/abused now. The young man may find that as he gets older, he may be able to wean himself off. Like I said before, I think I turned out alright, at least in my mind.
You see, here I am, supposed to be studying and I got distracted again. Oh well may as well go get a coffee. Fix the door on my truck on the way out, oops, there is still some snow on the driveway, I'll shovel it right now, where's the shovel, in the shed,hang on I'll pull my quad out, the tire is flat, oh shit look at the mess in this shed, guess I'll tidy it up, oh what's this, hm I think I'll fix it right now, now where's the tools I had yesterday, oh, in the basement, oh there's that pressure washer I was supposed to fix. Now what was I going to do first? I think I'll go get a coffee.
This was not meant to boost my ego but to add info related to typical ADHD type personalities, as previously posted. I asked my Doc about meds, and he said no, it would definetely slow me done (stone?) me.Lost Lake wrote:
I am tested at a Mensan level.
I find being able to produce the membership card during an argument really increases my chances of winning it quickly. It's petty I realise, but that's life.
This affliction was around before it was given a name. Probably overused/abused now. The young man may find that as he gets older, he may be able to wean himself off. Like I said before, I think I turned out alright, at least in my mind.
You see, here I am, supposed to be studying and I got distracted again. Oh well may as well go get a coffee. Fix the door on my truck on the way out, oops, there is still some snow on the driveway, I'll shovel it right now, where's the shovel, in the shed,hang on I'll pull my quad out, the tire is flat, oh shit look at the mess in this shed, guess I'll tidy it up, oh what's this, hm I think I'll fix it right now, now where's the tools I had yesterday, oh, in the basement, oh there's that pressure washer I was supposed to fix. Now what was I going to do first? I think I'll go get a coffee.
What little I do know is either not important or I've forgotten it!
Transport Canada's mission statement: We're not happy until you're not happy
Transport Canada's mission statement: We're not happy until you're not happy
Re: ADHD
Classic! I'm pretty sure there is no "n" at the end of Mensa...Lost Lake wrote: I am tested at a Mensan level.
You see, here I am, supposed to be studying and I got distracted again. Oh well may as well go get a coffee. Fix the door on my truck on the way out, oops, there is still some snow on the driveway, I'll shovel it right now, where's the shovel, in the shed,hang on I'll pull my quad out, the tire is flat, oh shit look at the mess in this shed, guess I'll tidy it up, oh what's this, hm I think I'll fix it right now, now where's the tools I had yesterday, oh, in the basement, oh there's that pressure washer I was supposed to fix. Now what was I going to do first? I think I'll go get a coffee.
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Meatservo
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Re: ADHD
Sorry Lost Lake, I wasn't trying to mock you, I just thought it was a funny thing to say. Imagine a guy who whipped out a Mensa ID card during arguments... 
Anyway, your little story sounds like a typical day in most dudes' lives. I'm sure there are greater and lesser degrees of it.
Anyway, your little story sounds like a typical day in most dudes' lives. I'm sure there are greater and lesser degrees of it.
If I'd known I was going to live this long, I'd have taken better care of myself
Re: ADHD
Lost Lake... You are such a comedian posting.php?mode=reply&f=54&t=62857#
That's the problem with making generalizations where personal factors are involved... you cannot keep the human spirit down if one has the intelligence and the will to achieve something. Our history is replete with inspirational people that have surmounted personal obstacles to get where they wanted to be.
You sound like one of those people, and I take my hat off to you. Look up the life of John Nash Jr also, if you want to see a totally disordered mind brought under control by sheer intelligence and force of will.
I stand by my opinion like Custer, speaking as a father that would wish to ease the road ahead in life, for a son or daughter.
This is why any medical situational case needs to be dealt with individually, as I suggested in my last post.
That's the problem with making generalizations where personal factors are involved... you cannot keep the human spirit down if one has the intelligence and the will to achieve something. Our history is replete with inspirational people that have surmounted personal obstacles to get where they wanted to be.
You sound like one of those people, and I take my hat off to you. Look up the life of John Nash Jr also, if you want to see a totally disordered mind brought under control by sheer intelligence and force of will.
I stand by my opinion like Custer, speaking as a father that would wish to ease the road ahead in life, for a son or daughter.
This is why any medical situational case needs to be dealt with individually, as I suggested in my last post.
Re: ADHD
I had a similar question that I had to ask not for myself but for a student of mine. I called Dr. Magee on yonge st.. He told me that Ritalin is not approved for use while flying or even 30 days prior to a flight. I think he would be a good guy to call. He also expressed to concern of people flying that were not on it but required it. (this is an an uneducated opinion, in my opinion)
I have personally been accused of ADHD but with no official diagnosis. I can tell you that if there is anything that will help you focus its trying to land on a tiny little strip while mother nature is trying to blow you into the trees!
I think that ADHD is no reason to not fly although the drugs maybe. Call the Doc, and goodluck!
I have personally been accused of ADHD but with no official diagnosis. I can tell you that if there is anything that will help you focus its trying to land on a tiny little strip while mother nature is trying to blow you into the trees!
I think that ADHD is no reason to not fly although the drugs maybe. Call the Doc, and goodluck!
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I guess I'll bump this thread from its grave, I made an account, but I guess this thread provided the answer I wanted.
But I do have a small rant, for all the skeptical self-proclaimed PhD holders in here. ADHD is a very real disorder; if you don't have it or the proper credentials then you can't seriously question its existence, you don’t suffer from it, you’re not educated in psychology, so you don’t know what it is like or have the proper experience with people who suffer from it.
I went through my life as a teenager (I’m 21 now btw) convinced I had overcome ADHD and that I would be fine un-medicated, which is something I regret. After a failed stint at University for a year I decided I needed to re-consider the idea that I had found ways to deal with the illness (which came after much denial). I moved back home for a while to get myself together and to visit my trusted life long doctor, who has supported me through my decisions to stay off and stay on medication. After the last year on medication, I have to say it has changed my life for the better, and this is coming not just from me but friends and family too. I've matured significantly (I can't even remeber the last time someone told me I acted like a child for my age) I don’t suffer from total mumbling without noticing, I don’t have problems with people talking right into my face and not registering a single word, I can do school and work very efficiently without hours being wasted on being unable to articulate my thoughts properly really all around it has helped but I don’t need to get to far into this. Although the media has tried to make this out as some sort of disorder that doesn’t exist or that ADHD really just means you like watching TV instead of being productive, which it isn’t, it more like sitting in a chair thinking as hard as you can for hours on end and can’t get past a paragraph on a simple paper (one time a two page MLA paper took me two weeks to write, I spent about 4 hours every day after class trying to finish it and I still managed to just scrape by with a passing mark on it). I know above is something any student might have to deal with, but I’ve dealt with it my whole life with everything, which seems to be at odds with results of school administered tests for people with learning issues showing I had significantly above average intelligence.
I don’t think doctors are over diagnosing it as much as parents sending their children to a psychologist because there kid isn’t doing so good at school, and he must have “that ADD I heard about on NBC last night”.
I do agree that people can easily go through life without being medicated, but for some they cannot. It sucks that Transport Canada feels that a person taking medication isn’t fit to pilot an aircraft, I would worry more about a pilot with ADHD and no coping mechanizes flying a plane then one on medication (people with untreated ADHD are in a significantly higher amount of vehicle collisions in a life time.)
I guess I’ll have to keep up with my ambitions for law school
P.S I’ve been diagnosed with ADHD as child by a neurologist and a psychiatrist, and re-diagnosed again by a psychiatrist as an adult.
This documentary is very informative.
http://news.globaltv.com/Loving/2009300/story.html
But I do have a small rant, for all the skeptical self-proclaimed PhD holders in here. ADHD is a very real disorder; if you don't have it or the proper credentials then you can't seriously question its existence, you don’t suffer from it, you’re not educated in psychology, so you don’t know what it is like or have the proper experience with people who suffer from it.
I went through my life as a teenager (I’m 21 now btw) convinced I had overcome ADHD and that I would be fine un-medicated, which is something I regret. After a failed stint at University for a year I decided I needed to re-consider the idea that I had found ways to deal with the illness (which came after much denial). I moved back home for a while to get myself together and to visit my trusted life long doctor, who has supported me through my decisions to stay off and stay on medication. After the last year on medication, I have to say it has changed my life for the better, and this is coming not just from me but friends and family too. I've matured significantly (I can't even remeber the last time someone told me I acted like a child for my age) I don’t suffer from total mumbling without noticing, I don’t have problems with people talking right into my face and not registering a single word, I can do school and work very efficiently without hours being wasted on being unable to articulate my thoughts properly really all around it has helped but I don’t need to get to far into this. Although the media has tried to make this out as some sort of disorder that doesn’t exist or that ADHD really just means you like watching TV instead of being productive, which it isn’t, it more like sitting in a chair thinking as hard as you can for hours on end and can’t get past a paragraph on a simple paper (one time a two page MLA paper took me two weeks to write, I spent about 4 hours every day after class trying to finish it and I still managed to just scrape by with a passing mark on it). I know above is something any student might have to deal with, but I’ve dealt with it my whole life with everything, which seems to be at odds with results of school administered tests for people with learning issues showing I had significantly above average intelligence.
I don’t think doctors are over diagnosing it as much as parents sending their children to a psychologist because there kid isn’t doing so good at school, and he must have “that ADD I heard about on NBC last night”.
I do agree that people can easily go through life without being medicated, but for some they cannot. It sucks that Transport Canada feels that a person taking medication isn’t fit to pilot an aircraft, I would worry more about a pilot with ADHD and no coping mechanizes flying a plane then one on medication (people with untreated ADHD are in a significantly higher amount of vehicle collisions in a life time.)
I guess I’ll have to keep up with my ambitions for law school
P.S I’ve been diagnosed with ADHD as child by a neurologist and a psychiatrist, and re-diagnosed again by a psychiatrist as an adult.
This documentary is very informative.
http://news.globaltv.com/Loving/2009300/story.html
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RatherBeFlying
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Re: ADHD
Just because ADHD is overdiagnosed does not necessarily mean that everybody with the diagnosis can do well without the meds. Anybody in Canada using meds for ADHD who wants to be a pilot has to either get off the meds or forget about being a pilot.
In Australia, CASA allows anti-depressants in contrast to TC, but will NOT issue a medical to anybody with ADHD confirmed by a consultant psychiatrist -- meds or no meds.
In Australia, CASA allows anti-depressants in contrast to TC, but will NOT issue a medical to anybody with ADHD confirmed by a consultant psychiatrist -- meds or no meds.
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RatherBeFlying wrote:Just because ADHD is overdiagnosed does not necessarily mean that everybody with the diagnosis can do well without the meds. Anybody in Canada using meds for ADHD who wants to be a pilot has to either get off the meds or forget about being a pilot.
In Australia, CASA allows anti-depressants in contrast to TC, but will NOT issue a medical to anybody with ADHD confirmed by a consultant psychiatrist -- meds or no meds.
Check the latest from both TC and the FAA and you will see that being on medication for depression no longer automatically precludes issuing a medical. Six months stability on a maintenance dose can result in a Cat III on a GP's assessment using DSM-IV protocols reviewed every 6 months, or a CAT I with a psychiatrist's review (annually?).
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