Man up.

[OceansEdge]

One of the two golden rules I've been known to break.

The other is don't date pilots.

Excellent rule - I concur

[zzjayca]

Me too. Broke that rule once...will never do it again.

[Meatservo]

Why?

[Castorero]

One of the two golden rules I've been known to break.

The other is don't date pilots.

There is more to this story than I care to share.

Don't dip your pen in the company ink. Never ends well.
Trust me.

Well, I am glad to see that we finally got to the bottom of that...

You missed the entire point to what I wrote. I even re-wrote it several times, I broke it down "barney style" and you still don't get it.

You're simply an ass for not being able to comprehend basic English.

Hey Nark - you tried your best. Hopefully some people got the message.

It makes we weep though to see the number of people that thought this thread was about the pilot quitting because the weather was below their personal limits. Hopefully none of those respondents are pilots or responsible people in aviation because if they can't understand your post, there is no possible way they can understand CARs.

To show i know how to read, Nark wasn't mad about her deciding not to fly, he wasn't that mad about having to work on his day off, he was mad that the pilot who decided not to fly started saying they where flying VFR in IFR weather. There end of story.

Okay, Okay, I finally get it now. But would it have killed you (Nark) to have explained it all in simpler language from the very start?

You can't expect people to read your mind, you know ...

Maybe Nark can hire jpilot77 to write his posts in future? The man knows how to cut to the chase.

As for me, I should have stayed out of this thread, of course, and I promise to read those posts more slowly in the future... Peace

[OceansEdge]

Why?

A pilot is a confused soul who talks about nothing but women when he's flying, and about nothing but flying when he's with a woman.

Besides, no relationship has enough room in it for BOTH those egos, so I married a nav aid technician/radar specialist/technical instructor instead.

[Meatservo]

I see. I am getting a general anti-pilot vibe from several of your posts. Like I said before, most generalizations are inherently false. Or was it you who said that? If it was, I must have liked it because now it's something I like to say. Anyway, here's an example of another generalization. Most women who are overly vocal about never dating within a certain demographic group, say for the sake of argument "musicians", probably have some kind of sob story about having struck out with one or never managed to get anywhere with one. I personally love being thought of as a pilot first and a person second; especially by dispatchers, it makes my job easier when I don't have to worry about being treated like a human being. Also, when I have an argument with my wife, I can shrug off my personality problems as having to do with being a pilot, she should have known I would consider myself above doing domestic chores and being nice to her stupid friends the first time she saw me in my uniform.

There must be some kind of "dispatcher" forum you can participate in, alternatively you could maybe cool it with the sly little digs at pilots; we are good enough at marginalizing ourselves without the support workers chipping in with their two cents. Crap, there I go generalizing again.

[OceansEdge]

Meatservo....
Relax, I certainly didn't mean to offend you. And actually it was Nark who first said he has a rule not to date pilots - I only agreed. You're right - my sense of humour can have a bit of an edge to it at times. And yes you're jumping to a lot of conclusions and presumptions and generalizations you've accused me of. (What I had said, and if you liked it I'm glad, "all generalizations are inherently false, including this one.") Those generalizations are equally false. Truth - I've never dated a pilot, never had occasion to, but I certainly don't hate pilots. I don't even dislike most of em.

I've been hanging out with, or been a pilot, or dealt with pilots for going 30+ years now I've developed a thick skin and learned to be bit of a dry times. Professionally I'm a dispatcher, and yes, I do hang in dispatcher forums - but I also hang here because I believe whole heartedly in the idea of pilots and dispatchers working together. I'm inclined to think that yes, in a professional capacity I deal with pilots as a pilot first, out of professional courtesy and respect. There are some I like, some I don't like, some I see socially, some I don't, some I think are damned fine human beings, some I think are first class assholes, but non of that really belongs in the briefing room IMO. In the work environment - professionalism FIRST, last, and always.

But, this isn't the briefing room, this isn't a professional environment, its a web forum. I'm also a pilot and yeah occasionally I poke a little, and indulge in a little humour, sometimes it has a bit of an edge, but I wouldn't be here if I didn't love the job, love the industry, love the people and love the flying. I'm sorry if you feel that because I'm a dispatcher I don't belong here, I don't really think that insinuation was called for.

I am genuinely very sorry if I hurt your feelings, it really isn't meant as anything more than a bit of good natured ribbing, as much poking fun at myself as anything else. I will try to be more mindful in future that a written forum doesn't always carry the finer nuances of the tone I intended.

[zzjayca]

The female pilots are no better than their male counterparts...in some ways they're worse.

Sorry to offend your sensibilities Meatservo but stereotypes while not universally true, are stereotypes for a reason.

[stmymdy]

Also, when I have an argument with my wife, I can shrug off my personality problems as having to do with being a pilot, she should have known I would consider myself above doing domestic chores and being nice to her stupid friends the first time she saw me in my uniform.

am i missing the joke?

[Meatservo]

Stmymdy, maybe if you read it a couple of times more you will grasp that paragraph in context with the rest of the post.
Oceansedge, I didn't mean that I want you to go away. I am a bit sensitive I suppose, because of the stereotype everybody refers to is nowhere to be seen anymore, except in young ignorant new guys who haven't learned their way in the world yet, and that is true of any young ignorant new guy, not just pilots. The work that pilots have put into countering that stereotype has resulted in allowing people to walk all over pilots and they don't defend themselves for fear of being labelled arrogant, whiny, overpaid, overprivileged prima-donnas. I myself have felt embarrassed, when the question of jobs comes up talking to a woman at the bar, to admit that I'm pilot. Why? I'm well paid, fairly well educated and responsible. I'm a good guy. I don't want to seem like I'm boasting. I'm embarrassed to be a pilot. Because of that stupid stereotype. It gets under my skin whenever someone mentions it.

The female pilots are no better than their male counterparts...in some ways they're worse.

Sorry to offend your sensibilities Meatservo but stereotypes while not universally true, are stereotypes for a reason.

I dispute that. Of course the bat-boys are going to bitch about the baseball players behind their backs. They're jealous. That's all the anti-pilot rhetoric is.

[zzjayca]

Lol. If that's the best you can come back with, rethink the "fairly well educated" part of your last post.

Some of my best friends are pilots. I'm not saying they are bad people, just that their career and sometimes their attitude makes it difficult to have a long term relationship with them.

Signed:

A mildly amused bat boy.

[Meatservo]

Really? A pot-shot at my education? (Or lack therof, heh-heh.) I think you need to re-think your reasons for participating in this forum. You sound as though you consider your own attitude to be above reproach. Some of my best friends aren't pilots. It's just that sometimes their careers and a lot of the time their attitudes make it difficult to have a relationship with them. (?)

[stmymdy]

poor nark, your thread has been hijacked

[Meatservo]

Well, that's the way conversations sometimes go. I'm pretty sure Nark has said his piece.

[zzjayca]

Really? A pot-shot at my education? (Or lack therof, heh-heh.)

Too funny. But it's okay for you to take a pot shot at someone's career if they aren't a pilot?

I think you need to re-think your reasons for participating in this forum.

Anyone not flight crew should not be here? You essentially said the same thing to OceansEdge.

Those comments couldn't be chalked up to "pilot attitude". Could they?

[sky's the limit]

Enough.

Post on topic or they will be removed.

stl