Central Mountain Air

[scopiton]

start pay for F/O?
sorry i didn't do a search and too lazy to read the whole thread
thanks

[metal]

Whole thread? Its one page man...Seriously..

[westcoasting]

how hard is it to get hired for the ramp if you have your cpl?

[metal]

If you don't have your IATRA done, none of your ramp time counts until you have that, and 250 hours.

[Pilot1500]

Does anyone have any information on what the interview process is like for CMA, and pilot bases etc...
Anyway info would be greatly appreciated.

[dieselbro]

As far as I know for the Tier 2 low time people its an interview for a ground position and then you get hired. After awhile if things are going good they will have a 'pilot interview' with you and if that goes well then you are put on the low time senority list and will continue working your ground position until your #1.

Pilot Bases that I know of for sure are Vancouver, Calgary, Smithers.

Hope this helps.

[scopiton]

and the Year 1 F/O pay is ??

[snag]

http://www.airlinepilotcentral.com/airl ... n_air.html

[Pilot1500]

what are the chances of getting into CMA within the Tier 1 group in the next couple of months? anyone know?

[discreet]

for an f/o with over 1500 hrs, will they look at you with just the IATRA written or do they give preference to those with SAMRON/SAMRA written?

[aV1aTOr]

Unless you have an ATPL in hand, the SAMRA/SARON is useless to the company. In that case, you need the IATRA written to operate as a 2nd crew member. In other words: no, they need either the IATRA written or an ATPL. (obviously having an ATPL is more desirable)

Initial 1900 groundschool running in October, I believe they have already completed interviews, or are still in the process of.....

[Pilot1500]

I'm pretty sure that having you're ATPL's written is the same as having just an Iatra, in fact from pilots I have spoken to, ATPL's are better to have because they are harder and, there is much more material to know for ATPL than there is for Iatra. I have alot of buddies flying 1900's with ATPL's written only.....anyway does anyone have any interview questions for CMA?

[aV1aTOr]

Obviously alot of guys flying the 1900 have the atpls written. The point I am making is that to LEGALLY fly the 1900 from the right seat, you either need an ATPL rating (not just written - you must hold the rating - meaning hours completed and rating on your license) OR the iatra written. Simply having the samra and saron written means nothing in terms of legally certifying you to operate as a second crew member on a 2 crew aircraft. The iatra does.
Yes the atpl is more questions (2 80 question exams vs. the iatra which is 1 80 question exam) however the material for all 3 exams is identical. No one exam is 'harder' than the others; just different subjects for the samra and saron.
On a side note, interviews are going on right now for an initial 1900 gs beginning at the end of Nov.

[AUGER9]

Simply having the samra and saron written means nothing in terms of legally certifying you to operate as a second crew member on a 2 crew aircraft. .

Actually it does, having the A's WRITTEN (with a cpl) is the same as having the IATRA.
Read CAR 421.40 part 3

[wyndham]

Simply having the samra and saron written means nothing in terms of legally certifying you to operate as a second crew member on a 2 crew aircraft. .

Actually it does, having the A's WRITTEN (with a cpl) is the same as having the IATRA.
Read CAR 421.40 part 3

correct

[aV1aTOr]

Thanks wyndham & AUGER9. I stand corrected.

[Unripened Pilot]

I heard that after your time is up on the ramp/dispatch etc. you'll be given a sim ride and if you fail that you don't get a second chance is that true?

[privateer]

I heard that CMA is peanut free, is that true?

[COMETer]

CMA is as decent a place as any to get some time.

Have several mates there, speak highly of it. They treat you well.

[Lurch]

I heard that CMA is peanut free, is that true?

They don't give passengers peanuts because that's how they pay their crews.

Lurch

[Pogo Guy]

Has there been any update to the pay scale that is listed on Airline Pilot Central or is that still current? Says last updated Jan 09 so almost 2 years old now. Or any talk of an increase?

[aV1aTOr]

Pay scale on pilot career central is still correct. Extra $ per year to be in the training dept (LID capt, check A, GS instructor). Bonuses have been awarded avg. 2x per year. (~$300 - $500 depending on years of service)
Pay is nothing great, but it's a stepping stone company. I honestly don't get how people think a company like this can afford to pay FOs on a 1900 north of 50 000 or whatever and captains even more when it's a revolving door to the airlines. If they did, they would not exist and then good luck getting on at AC or WJ without the 'cheap' 704 operators. Sure there's the argument that if you pay more, guys will stay. Good luck. The average pilot age at CMA is probably 30. You think most of those guys will settle down on a 1900 for the next 30 years, even if there are making 80 000? Doubtful.
Don't get mt wrong - I want more $ like the next guy. But a 704 operator that hasn't ever had a major accident, no layoffs in over 10 years, and routinely looses guys to the airlines is worth hanging around for the time.

Just my 2c.