Cargo plane crash in Dubai

[the professional]

Horrible news,

CTV news reporting a cargo plane has crashed on a highway in Dubai. All crew members were fatally injured as well as persons on the ground.

[Mclovin]

Word is 744F operated by UPS, experienced fire in flight deck after takeoff.

[Lowjack]

http://www.pprune.org/rumours-news/4262 ... dubai.html

[Expat]

Just read the whole thread there. Looks like these chaps aimed for a quiet place to crash.
RIP

[Panama Jack]

I doubt they could see enought to "aim" for it. From what I am reading, the pilots reported blinding smoke in the flight deck and the inability to read the instruments. Hellish scenario.

[W5]

Crash: UPS B744 at Dubai on Sep 3rd 2010, fire in cockpit

http://avherald.com/h?article=4307772e&opt=512

UPS Issues Statement on Dubai Accident

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/UPS-Issue ... l?x=0&.v=1

[Mig29]

UPDATE: The investigation team recovered the Cockpit Voice Recorder (CVR) approximately 6 hours after the accident; the onsite GCAA investigation team is continuing the recovery effort to locate the Digital Flight Data Recorder (DFDR), while investigating the aircraft structure, systems, engines and flight controls as part of the forensic evidence collecting and data capturing activities associated with major air accident investigation.

Then, in a news release dated September 13, 2010, the GCAA announced that the Digital Flight Data Recorder (DFDR) also had been recovered from the aircraft wreckage, and was in "reasonable condition." The GCAA said that both devices were being sent to the United States for analysis. One GCAA investigator will travel to the U.S. "to work on data recovery with the American investigation team."

An article published online by the Khaleej Times reported on preliminary data gathered by the GCAA.

The initial analysis of the downloaded data indicated that there was a fire warning followed by smoke in the cockpit as reported by the crew about 28 minutes from takeoff. The crew were asked by Bahrain Air Traffic Control to land at Doha, but they decided to return to Dubai. Then they experienced cockpit visibility and commutation problems. Later on the crew declared Mayday (a call used to declare that aircraft is in distress). The Captain was in control up to the end of the recording.

The investigation is continuing.
http://aircrewbuzz.com/2010/09/update-o ... ghter.html

It's pretty late of the night to give smart *** speculations, and the report isn't out yet, but in theses types of situations where smoke and fire arise, if anything can be take away from this is: LAND THE AIRCRAFT ASAP! This sadly reminds me of the Swissair crash of N.S.
We'll see what the TSB report has to say.

[xsbank]

EVAS.

[hairdo]

That is one emergency that I would never want to have to deal with. I would rather have an engine failure in a single-engine aircraft in the middle of the night in the middle of nowhere than a cockpit fire. If there is one emergency that scares the crap out of me, that's it.

RIP

[North Shore]

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It's pretty late of the night to give smart *** speculations, and the report isn't out yet, but in theses types of situations where smoke and fire arise, if anything can be take away from this is: LAND THE AIRCRAFT ASAP! This sadly reminds me of the Swissair crash of N.S.
We'll see what the TSB report has to say.

There's a fair bit of discussion about this over on PPRUNE. From what I recall from reading over there from guys who have experience in the 747-400 and in the Gulf area, from the position where the crew first reported smoke in the cockpit, it was a pretty even wash, time wise, to get on the ground in either Doha or Dubai...

[leftcoaster]

http://www.timminstimes.com/ArticleDisp ... ?e=2732899

Happy ending on this one.

My deepest sympathies to those affected by the UPS crash. No worse emergency than fire in flight.
I'm sure the 400 must have the best stuff available to wear on your face, so to not see the instruments, it must have been really thick.

LC

[Main Gear]

Lithium batteries involved in UPS plane fire

Lithium batteries are believed to have contributed to the cockpit fire that broke out in the UPS plane that crashed in Dubai earlier this month, crash investigation sources have said.

The news is likely to lead to new restrictions on their transport and packaging are likely to be introduced by US authorities, the Wall Street Journal (WSJ) reported.

US investigators are currently analysing the cause of the crash and have yet to reveal their findings. However, sources told the paper that lithium batteries may have stoked the intense fire and dense smoke that filled the cockpit of the UPS Boeing 747 aircraft, which crashed in Dubai on September 3 and killed both pilots onboard.

The report added that the implications are likely to result in US officials introducing new measures to restrict the transport of large quantities of lithium batteries on US cargo planes. Sources told the WSJ that the UPS plane, which originated in Hong Kong and was flying from Dubai to Germany, had large amounts of consumer electronics aboard.

The new US restrictions, likely to be announced after the results of the crash investigation, are believed to include new guidelines for the packaging of lithium batteries and new limits on the transport of batteries and consumer goods.

Lithium batteries are used extensively to power electronic goods, such as mobile phones and laptop computers. The consumer electronics market in the GCC is a booming business and is expected to be worth around $11.2bn by the end of this year and grow by a quarter over the next four years, according to predictions by researchers at Business Monitor International.

The Cockpit Voice Recorder (CVR) from the aircraft was recovered from the crash site on September 4, approximately six hours after the accident and the Digital Flight Data Recorder (DFDR) was recovered on September 7 “in a reasonable condition,” the UAE General Civil Aviation Authority (GCAA) said.

http://www.pilotcareercentre.com/Aviati ... plane+fire