407 Landing?

[hazatude]

Developing...

[bizjets101]

YKZ - safe landing of Piper Cherokee on 407 near Woodbine.
(Aircraft registered to a numbered company based at a private
home in the Bathurst/St. Clair area).

photo Tom Podolac/CTV I see Tom got the turn here for Buttonville Airport sign in the photo - Nice!!!

Piper Cherokee C-GOYV

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[hazatude]

Good job guys!

[bizjets101]

Aircraft is parked in the Westbound lanes. Just watched the quick news story
on local news (CTV), in the not so far background is overhead highway signs.

Very fortunate outcome and excellent aircraft handling by the pilot.

Well done.

[Inverted2]

Wonder what the 407 bill will be? Hope he had a transponder! I know, lame, but well done

[gustind]

http://archive-server.liveatc.net/cykz/ ... -0200Z.mp3

12 minutes in give or take. Not very exciting.

[DanWEC]

"Land your discretion on the 407"
That is, bar none, the best singular line I have ever heard from ATC, ever!!
Pilot stayed very calm and managed situation. Well done to everyone. (Just hope it wasn't due to a mixture error on descent or something)

For listening to ATC feed- contact starts just before 1/3rd of the way through, ends halfway through. Happy ending.

[crazy_aviator]

Most pilots can read and understand, he only needs to turn right and he will be back at the airport shortly !

[crazy_aviator]

Sounds like one cool pilot !

[canuckcam]

Initial info the TSB gave to the media tonight:
- the pilot is experienced with lots of night flying
- the plane had plenty of fuel in the tanks upon landing on the 407

You can read into the last statement. Obviously couldn't confirm carb ice or pump failure at this point in time. Pilot did an amazing job, kept cool - and great place to put down the plane too. Right above where he stopped are multiple power lines crossing over the 407 (not the high voltage east-west ones) that's not indicated on maps (not that he had time to look at them anyway.)

[gustind]

Forgive the Commentary.

[news46]

@Inverted2 he definitely had a transponder...unfortunately it was not squawking the right code for the 407.

I have covered planes which have landed/crashed in trees, a house, city park, building, another aircraft, lake, running off the end of a runway, on the runway and now on a highway. What's next?

For some more pics.... http://bit.ly/aFytKh

@gustind...nice video.

Cheers,

Tom

[Apollo]

It's Blue one and three!!

[bizjets101]

[Hammer_]

Flew out of Buttonville today and did a double take since the plane is sitting in the car parking lot. That's something you don't see everyday.

Great to see a good outcome!

[niss]

Kudos to everyone involved!

[gustind]

UPDATE Supplemental information received from TSB Daily Notification [A10O0219]: C-GOYV, a Piper PA-28-151 Warrior airplane, departed Toronto/Buttonville, proceeded to Lindsay for several night circuits, returned to Toronto/Buttonville airport and joined a right-hand circuit for runway 33. The engine (Lycoming O-320-E3D) sputtered and lost power as the airplane turned onto the base leg. An attempt was made to restore power by switching fuel tanks with no immediate effect. The pilot discontinued attempts to restart the engine and concentrated on carrying out a forced approach to land on highway 407 about one mile southeast of the runway threshold. Road traffic was very light at the time and the airplane was landed without further incident. One fuel tank was found dry and the other was slightly less than half full, equivalent to about one hour fuel remaining. The airplane was towed to the Buttonville airport where the fuel system will be checked.

[bizjets101]

At least he had the presence of mind - to discontinue attempting to re-start the engine, and used his skills for safe forced landing.

As I recall the Toronto Airways Cessna that hit the house in Bayview Hills Estates, the pilot hadn't chosen a spot to land, focusing on starting the engine, and ran out of altitude.

http://www.tsb.gc.ca/eng/rapports-repor ... 1o0157.pdf

[MarkhamResident]

[niss]

Why couldn't he make the runway from the base leg?

[dcabrown]

The plane almost hit the GOBUS, so it was a near tragedy. I would like to have a clear understanding of the cause of the engine failure from the investigation, one accident after another out of Buttonville these days, and I live at the 407 and Markham (Northeast corner), and with the increase incident rate many residents are concerned.

Sounds like another fuel starvation. On the Piper Warriors there is no option to select "both tanks" as in the Cessna. It has been noted that there are significantly more fuel starvation incidents with Warriors due to pilots not remembering to switch tanks. The updated description above from Transport stating, "One fuel tank was found dry and the other was slightly less than half full, equivalent to about one hour fuel remaining."
I think tells it all...

[linecrew]

The plane almost hit the GOBUS, so it was a near tragedy. I would like to have a clear understanding of the cause of the engine failure from the investigation, one accident after another out of Buttonville these days, and I live at the 407 and Markham (Northeast corner), and with the increase incident rate many residents are concerned.

Sounds like another fuel starvation. On the Piper Warriors there is no option to select "both tanks" as in the Cessna. It has been noted that there are significantly more fuel starvation incidents with Warriors due to pilots not remembering to switch tanks. The updated description above from Transport stating, "One fuel tank was found dry and the other was slightly less than half full, equivalent to about one hour fuel remaining."
I think tells it all...

The short amount of time I spent flying Cherokees I always thought that it was odd that nobody ever came out with a mandatory AD to modify the fuel system to have a "BOTH" detent. In the litigation fearing world we now live in it seems like this has managed to stay under the radar much to the delight of the owners that wouldn't want to shell out the $$$'s for sure.

[2775PSI]

That was always part of my engine failure flow in the Cherokees, along with simply looking at the fuel gauges. It had to have been something more than that.

[FlaplessDork]

Sounds like another fuel starvation. On the Piper Warriors there is no option to select "both tanks" as in the Cessna. It has been noted that there are significantly more fuel starvation incidents with Warriors due to pilots not remembering to switch tanks. The updated description above from Transport stating, "One fuel tank was found dry and the other was slightly less than half full, equivalent to about one hour fuel remaining."
I think tells it all...

You could be jumping to conclusions here. Its possible he used that tank up purposefully earlier in the flight and was running on the one containing fuel. CADORS are not always fact, and contain only observations.

[FlaplessDork]

The short amount of time I spent flying Cherokees I always thought that it was odd that nobody ever came out with a mandatory AD to modify the fuel system to have a "BOTH" detent. In the litigation fearing world we now live in it seems like this has managed to stay under the radar much to the delight of the owners that wouldn't want to shell out the $$$'s for sure.

Many aircraft have multiple tanks. Its a pilot issue not an aircraft issue. Using your logic over 3/4 of the airplanes I have flown need an AD to add an "ALL TANKS" selection. I've busted tanks on probably all of them some purposefully some by accident, but each time it was my responsibility not the airplane.