Diving

[Hawkeye4077]

So my buddies are pullying my leg so i do my divers rating. How will that affect my flying? How long to wait Fter a dive ect????


Thx

[pika]

The Undersea and Hyperbaric Medical Society conducted a workshop on flying after diving in 1991 after their controversial recommendations were made in 1989 and this was supported by DAN and diver certification agencies in their publications. Some diving groups were pleased, others felt they were too conservative and unnecessarily constrictive to recreational divers.

The final upshot of the debate is a DAN revised guideline which states:

a. A minimum surface interval of 12 hours is required before ascent in a commercial aircraft (8000 foot (2438 m.) cabin).

b. Wait an extended surface interval beyond twelve hours after daily, multiple dives for several days or dives that require decompression stops

c. The greater the diving the longer the duration recommended before flying.

The above is for sports diving and should not apply to commercial diving or nitrox diving. Because of the complex nature of DCS and because decompression schedules are based on unverifiable assumptions, there can never be a fixed flying after diving rule that can guarantee prevention of bends completely.

Common sense and caution are the order of the day. That might make it much closer to 24 hours after multi day diving.

[bizjets101]

Brampton Flying Club's Chief Flight Instructor and General Manager, the late Rick Wynott - passed away in June 2004 from the 'bends' during a scuba dive. Rick being a stickler for rules - would have been following all the guidelines.

I suggest you do some in 'depth' (no pun intended) research.

[bizjets101]

Brampton Flying Club's Chief Flight Instructor and General Manager, the late Rick Wynott - passed away in June 2004 from the 'bends' during a scuba dive. Rick being a stickler for rules - would have been following all the guidelines.

I suggest you do some in 'depth' (no pun intended) research.

http://www.atac.ca/old_files/Lives_Live ... t_2004.pdf

[Walker]

Tables are available for flight after a dive (they "kinda" work)
Here's one of them:
http://www.google.ca/url?sa=t&source=we ... Og&cad=rja

Be advised; IF you F this up VERY bad things can happen

an air embolis in this case can be exaggerated to the point that you may not even feel anything is wrong after the dive/flight.... then a few days later you get sick, very sick.. no one knows whats going on; you go septic and HOPEFULLY someone figures out you were diving/flying a few days ago and realizes that during the flight you lost blood supply to your femur etc for a few hours and now all the marrow is dead.... So they amputate the now dead necrotic bone
and that's the lucky version....
Best bet is unless you know what your doing is wait at least a day;

http://www.tc.gc.ca/eng/civilaviation/p ... 63.htm#3-4


All that being said, Diving is freaking awesome so have fun!

[PunkStarStudios]

I happen to be a dive instructor.
The rules differ between what the diving organizations say, and what TC would say.
As a rule of thumb wait 24 hours.

[KAG]

Also for the love of god don't push it if your ears hurt...at all. I damn near ruptured my ears in Mexico on my first dive. If your prone to sinus issues, take lots of decongestants, and if you feel ANY pain in your ear, go up a foot or two and equalize.
If your stuffed up at all, don't go.

That said it's awsome and we're doing our open water cert this spring!!!

[Brown Bear]

What KAG said....plus....start clearing your ears before your hair even gets wet. Seriously. This works. Any pain at ALL, stop the descent and come up a little till the ears clear.
Flying and diving? Arguments tend to go back and forth. I've spent reef time, and gone flying an hour or two later. Many times. But, to keep everybody really happy.....and yourself guaranteed within ND limits.....just don't dive the day you fly. Simple.

[Hawkeye4077]

Yeah

Thank you fellows!!! Time to be a sailor I guess

[capt.pilot]

I was in the Maldives for a year and a half and didn't really start diving until my second tour there, but when I did it was with a vengance.. I think I did about 60 Dives in 6 months...

As a rule of thumb we used 24 hours after multiple dives in a day, and 12 hours on a single dive remaining above 80 Feet for less than 1 hour... Hell in Male, you didn't really need to go any deeper than 60 feet to see just about everything..

I would personally wait atleast 24 maybe even more for a commercial flight, but that's my own preference..

Have fun and enjoy..

[Panama Jack]

Hawkeye4077

I believe you are asking whether being a SCUBA Diver is compatible with being a Professional Pilot.

The answer is, yes. I became a SCUBA Diver many years ago and the attraction for me was that it was an exciting pastime with flying-like sensations, that actually had very little to do with aviation. At a young age I had my first look at the undersea world through mask and snorkel and, after surfacing, I remarked to my parents that I thought it was more beautiful "down there" than up here.

Yes, I have to plan my diving around my flying, but the same has to be said if I want a beer (and yet, I do drink).

As for risks, SCUBA does have potentially fatal risks, as does flying and having sexual relations with people you don't know really well. You take precautions in all three scenarios (unless, you want to become a statistic), but if you are looking for risk-free life, don't get out of bed in the morning.

[zero]

Good advise, be careful with your ears. They are very susceptible to damage from the water pressure and infection from water borne viruses. I once lost my medical for a month due to inflammation and required medication to treat them...I gave up diving after that.

[Liquid Charlie]

The diver's creed --

[4hrstovegas]

GO DIVE!! There's another world down there, and you don't need to worry if you do it sensibly (ie - don't get hammered the night before, go diving, and then fly home that day... common sense). I was a professional diver before I started to fly, and I am still an avid diver. You're more likely to injure yourself doing a lot of other sports. When you can fly depends on a couple things:

- how many dives have you been doing, and over what time period
- how deep have you been going
- are you keeping yourself hydrated properly

The period that should be left before flying is 24 hrs after deep and/or multiple dives, 12 hours for single shallow dive. I dive with a dive computer that will actually give me a suggested "time to fly" time that is based on my dive profile. But I'll leave at least 24 hours if I can.

Brampton Flying Club's Chief Flight Instructor and General Manager, the late Rick Wynott - passed away in June 2004 from the 'bends' during a scuba dive. Rick being a stickler for rules - would have been following all the guidelines.

Regarding Rick Wynott of BFC... he was a super guy, and we sometimes chatted about diving, but he did NOT pass away from the bends. I was working for him when it all happened. He suffered an aneurysm WHILE diving, not because of it. Sadly, it could have happened while he was driving to work.

[bizjets101]

Thanks for the update on Rick, I was aware it was on vacation in the Caribbean, and that he lost his life while diving. Not being a diver, I didn't recall the details of his passing.

[Louis]

I dive with a dive computer that will actually give me a suggested "time to fly" time that is based on my dive profile.

One thing I find that TC might take in account in its recommendations that certification agencies typically don't is pressurization failure.

Does your computer?

Other than that, diving is a blast and I don't get to do it nearly as often as I'd like.

[4hrstovegas]

One thing I find that TC might take in account in its recommendations that certification agencies typically don't is pressurization failure.

Does your computer?

But I'll leave at least 24 hours if I can.

[Panama Jack]

It's a bit of a moot point, Louis, as a pilot who has never dived could suffer from decompression sickness, either following a decompression of a pressurized aircraft or flying at high altitude in an unpressurized aircraft.

http://www.pilotfriend.com/aeromed/medi ... ession.htm

Strictly speaking, the human body was never designed to fly, dive, or travel at more than 18 km/hr.