MIFR Renewal on Redbird Sim at Cornwall

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MIFR Renewal on Redbird Sim at Cornwall

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That time again. I needed to renew my MIFR and this year, for a change, I decided to try the new "Redbird" sim (with motion) that I keep hearing about. I don't like to pull throttles on the big twin engine aircraft that I fly, so I normally rent a duchess or seminole for the MIFR test.

I should mention that I am not a 70x sim guy. I am a stick & rudder guy, and last time I logged time in a sim was 20 years ago, and it was this horrible thing that sat on a desk and didn't fly anything like a real aircraft. Not an enjoyable experience.

So, off to Cornwall (CYCC) I go, to see if you can teach an old dog new tricks.

First thing was the autopilot. I suppose you could hand-fly it all the time, but it's got a pretty good autopilot and it makes sense to use it. I think it would really help to read up ahead of time on the intricacies of the particular autopilot in this sim. Not sure if there is such a pub, but it would have really helped me.

It has a G530/430 stack, with what looks a lot like a KR87 ADF. All very familiar. Graphics were good, and my inner ear really appreciated a bit of motion. A couple years back I tried the non-moving sims at Seneca in Toronto with the full wrap-around screens, and I almost got motion sick. Graphics were good, but the complete lack of motion really screwed me up. After flying for decades, I am really used to feeling the motion of the airplane.

Anyways, I did a training session on tuesday, and the ride Friday, and it went pretty well. Most stressful thing for me was to ensure that I was doing the right thing with the autopilot. Normally I try to read up ahead of time on stuff like this, but I scraped through.

It was cheaper than flying a duchess or seminole, and the sim was fully approved for known icing conditions. Also it was neat to try some different emergencies, like static port plugging during descent.

The engine failure was a non-event. The sim instructor on Tuesday failed it on the downwind, miles from the localizer. Straightforward.

The engine failure on the ride was much more interesting - it was after GS interception. Newbie mistake is to raise the gear (for drag reduction) but an old dog knows about that scenario, and just left the gear down - I was descending on the GS, I didn't need to climb or even level off - so I just feathered the dead engine and trucked on in for a single-engine approach and landing.

One thing the sim makers could do, is when an engine fails, give you a much more audible THRUM THRUM THRUM - you know, that horrible beat frequency you get when the props aren't synched. Apart from that, actually, it was a very good sim. I will go there again in two years :wink:

In summary, a very educational, economical and positive experience. I recommend it for your next MIFR renewal!
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Good to know Hedley! That's my plan in February. How many days did you spend there and what was the approximate cost. (Ballpark figure) I'll be coming from Oshawa so I'm curious whether I should plan to spend a week or just a couple days.
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How many days did you spend there
Good question. Initially I had a training ride booked at 10am and a re-ride booked 2pm the same day, but I was wiped after nearly 3 hours of sim fun, and even an old dog knows you don't do a ride tired, so I booked a ride on the next open slot, which was a couple days later.

It didn't really matter to me, because I am only 1.5 hours by car (416/401), and 0.7 by light trainer from CYCC.

I might humbly suggest you book one (or two, depending) training slots, one in the morning, one in the afternoon, and book the test the next day (morning).

You can try to do it all in one day, but remember, if you're tired and blow the test, the examiner is obligated to remove your instrument rating from your licence, and you must go find a "qualified person" to give you remedial instrument training and recommend you for the ride - just like an initial. That's going to cost $$$.
what was the approximate cost
For one training flight and the test, it came in under $1000 (total) for me, and as I mentioned above, I had quite a lengthy training session. You might need less (or more), depending upon how current you are, and how fast you learn the avionics.

Main thing I would recommend to anyone considering a redbird sim for the MIFR renewal, is that they read up ahead of time about the autopilot. That was the biggie for me, because I was pretty used to the G530/G430/KR87, and since you are flying traditional approaches with them, they're pretty straightforward to use - just dial in the freq with the flip-flop and remember to ident!
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Thanks! It all sounds good to me. I'm going to do it in February so I'll try and get it booked ASAP to get it done in 2-3 days.
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I did it in Aug, a hot day to boot, and did the sim training and flight test successfully the same day. I was glad to hit the road home though :wink:

Incidentally, there is a lot of chatter on the AOPA forums about the Redbird, seems most there don't 'favour' it.
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I'm guessing they fixed the 430/530? When I was there in the summer it was still Redbird's 'simulation' of a 430/530 and a bunch of the features didn't quite work right...
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sstaurus wrote:I'm guessing they fixed the 430/530? When I was there in the summer it was still Redbird's 'simulation' of a 430/530 and a bunch of the features didn't quite work right...
Actually thats normal for Redbird's version because they didn't get a licence from Garmin to 'exactly' duplicate those units.
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