Maclean's gets public funding??? What?

[the_professor]

Uh, why the hell does Maclean's get a subsidy from the government anyway? Is it a government publication, or a news magazine? I never buy the damn thing, but I can't see why they'd qualify for money in the first place. Either stand on your own two feet, or get out of the business, I say.


Maclean’s no longer worthy of public funding, senator says
JOE FRIESEN
From Saturday's Globe and Mail
Published Friday, Dec. 17, 2010 7:11PM EST

A Canadian senator is asking the federal government to revoke federal subsidies to Maclean’s magazine over an article on university enrolment that focused on Asian-Canadian students.

In a letter to Heritage Minister James Moore, Senator Vivienne Poy says the public outcry over the article is enough to justify axing $1.5-million in funds for the national news weekly. She said periodicals that contain offensive content, “defined as material that is denigrating to an identifiable group,” can be deemed ineligible for federal support. She also mentions Maclean’s articles about corruption in Quebec and about Islamic groups that have raised the ire of some readers.

Her intervention follows a vote by Toronto city council this week to demand an apology from the magazine. Victoria and Vancouver city councils have also passed similar motions.

Maclean’s has said it did not intend to cause offence with the article, which was published in November’s annual university rankings issue. It was originally given the headline “Too Asian?,” which has since been changed on the magazine’s website to “The Enrolment Controversy.” In its defence the magazine points out that the headline “Too Asian?” was phrased as a question and taken from a report referred to in the article.

In a statement Friday, Maclean’s said, “We disagree with the Senator’s characterization of our journalism.”

A month after the article first appeared, critics continue to agitate against Maclean’s and its parent company, Rogers.

Organizers have begun distributing 12,500 buttons with the words “Too Asian for Maclean’s” and “Too Asian for Rogers.” Protests are being organized at the University of Toronto, the University of Victoria, McMaster University and Ryerson University, according to Brad Lee, who created a Facebook page as a venue for criticism. He said his page received more than 17,000 hits in the last 24 hours, and more than 100 groups have endorsed a letter opposing anti-Asian racism.

“As Canadians we strongly believe in freedom of the press,” he said. “As taxpayers we don’t want our money spent on a media outlet that misrepresents us.”

[BibleMonkey]

.......... I can't see why they'd qualify for money in the first place. Either stand on your own two feet, or get out of the business, I say.

I agree with that.

.......“As Canadians we strongly believe in freedom of the press,” he said. ...”

No we don't. We believe in free speech as long as it doesn't offend anybody

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_Steyn ... _complaint

[crazy_aviator]

IN Canada, we are also told to believe in supression of certain truths IF said truth offends ,,, this is PC and is supposed to be an indicator of a mature, "enlightened" society BULLCRAP !

[grimey]

You're surprised? This is the same country that provided public funding to a crappy porn movie with a washed up porn star.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0115771/combined

[The Old Fogducker]

Nina Hartley?

Well Grimey .... at least she washed before the film was made ... she likely would have been quite gooey ... LOL

Say what you may, she has great taste in shoes!

[North Shore]

^ Nice legs....for a rugby player

Foggy, you're not going 'Mr. Blackwell' on us are you? How on earth do you know what type of shoes those are?

[Joe Blow Schmo]

Not sure why they get funding to begin with. However to threaten to withdraw that funding because you don't like what they write is even worse!

I haven't read the article on corruption in Quebec, but why would that cause offense?

[xsbank]

BibleMonkey is right - PC will finish us all off, we will end up like African tribes hacking at each other if we can't learn that some people's opinions are annoying and won't be the same as yours. But they are still valid. Ad hominem will be the death of us.

[xsbank]

If anyone bothered to read the article, What McLeans readers are really cheesed off about are the characterizations of non-Asians as party fools who put the "experience" of university ahead of grades. The Asians were characterized as grade-centered to the exclusion of all else. Seems Canadian parents are not as focused on succes as Asian parents are. Stereotypes again......

[flyinggreasemonkey]

Canada is WAY too obsessed with not offending anyone. If you think you might be offended by something, DON'T read\watch listen to it...
Free thought and opinion are one of the basic rights and freedoms in Canada and it's being oppressed in favour of trying to give everyone a warm fuzzy feeling about the world.

The article in question only pointed out the asian's inclination for much higher learning. If you find that offensive, you've lived life in a bubble.

[Siddley Hawker]

it's being oppressed in favour of trying to give everyone a warm fuzzy feeling about the world.

Better known as the Lloyd Axworthless 'soft power' version of Trudeaupia. Like trying to screw with a limber dick. Or row a boat with a rope, something like that.

[flyinggreasemonkey]

Except your opinions are based on a senseless and unexplained bias and one sided stories.

[The Old Fogducker]

Tee hee .... chortle, chortle ..... guffaw, guffaw.

Well said greasemonkey.

[JakeYYZ]

I agree, professor, government subsidising any for profit publication is bad policy.
According to
http://www.pch.gc.ca/pap/publctn/report ... ex-eng.cfm

the “Publications Assistance Program” provided McLean’s with 3,042,567 in subsidies (2009-2010). At the link you’ll find hundreds of Canadian publications receiving financial support. Progressive Canadian governments over the years have spent BILLIONS of our taxpayer dollars trying to create a “Canadian culture”. Progressives don’t trust citizens to create their own culture.. we might do it wrong!

[JakeYYZ]

If anyone bothered to read the article, What McLeans readers are really cheesed off about are the characterizations of non-Asians as party fools who put the "experience" of university ahead of grades. The Asians were characterized as grade-centered to the exclusion of all else. Seems Canadian parents are not as focused on succes as Asian parents are. Stereotypes again......

I’m going to go ahead and be offended by being called a “non-Asian Canadian” while Asian Canadians are called Asian Canadians. Yup. I insist on being called a Canadian Canadian. I’m a Canadian Canadian, darn it.

[cdnpilot77]

Except your opinions are based on a senseless and unexplained bias and one sided stories.

Yes, because my motivation is somehow relevant when it comes to assessing court records and facts. Get a grip.

Did you forget that you posted this?

xsbank wrote:
if we can't learn that some people's opinions are annoying and won't be the same as yours. But they are still valid. Ad hominem will be the death of us.


I can agree with that. I see it every time I post something on here.

Kind of shows that you really are delusional doesn't it? Flyinggreasemonkey gave his opinion and because it differs from yours, he must be wrong. This is every single one of your posts dude, you have no concept of right vs wrong, you only know me vs you. Time for a reality check Mr. Cpl_atc, join us in the real world, you might enjoy it!

[cdnpilot77]

Kind of shows that you really are delusional doesn't it? Flyinggreasemonkey gave his opinion and because it differs from yours, he must be wrong. This is every single one of your posts dude, you have no concept of right vs wrong, you only know me vs you. Time for a reality check Mr. Cpl_atc, join us in the real world, you might enjoy it!

You should Google ad hominem. You clearly have no idea what it means, or the context of those remarks. Fool.

Point proven once again, you are a one trick pony....goodbye!

[grimey]

Except your opinions are based on a senseless and unexplained bias and one sided stories.

Yes, because my motivation is somehow relevant when it comes to assessing court records and facts. Get a grip.

Kind of shows that you really are delusional doesn't it? Flyinggreasemonkey gave his opinion and because it differs from yours, he must be wrong. This is every single one of your posts dude, you have no concept of right vs wrong, you only know me vs you. Time for a reality check Mr. Cpl_atc, join us in the real world, you might enjoy it!

You should Google ad hominem. You clearly have no idea what it means, or the context of those remarks. Fool.

So you're worried about ad hominem? Ok. I'll work those out of my arguments. In the meantime, work these out of yours:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hasty_generalization
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confirmation_bias
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anecdotal_evidence
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poisoning_the_well

And yes, your motivation is VERY relevant, as it points to bias, which leads many of the fallacies listed above. By the way, calling you an idiot is only an ad hominem if I base my argument on it. If I don't, it's just an insult. Also, thank you for admitting last night that you think you have a lower than average intellect.