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Thomas Cook in Jeopardy?

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First of all I'm not trying to stir the pot as I work at Jazz. I heard a disconcerning rumor the other day that Thomas Cook isn't very pleased with our performance. In particular, we have had to frequently cap the passenger loads due to a shortage/book offs of flight attendants. Just curious if any of the 757 guys can confirm or deny as to whether there is any truth to this? Thanks.

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The answer to the question is simple ... hire enough to have an actual reserve. Quit this skeleton crewing BS and stop relying on people to do WDO's. Hire enough crew to run the operation properly.
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Not to mention pissing off our much bigger customer who makes up most of our revenue with cancelled flights due to insufficent staffing.
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Who wants to bet that management will lay blame on the crews, and not on their piss poor crew planning?
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I sure hope this is not true and I cannot speak to rumors you heard Character. If it helps for the first month of work we had 100% flight completion and 90% OTP.

In my opinion we are doing a disservice to our fellow pilots hard work by implying anything else on a public forum. Perhaps the ALPA forum would be a better to ask if you want to find the answer?
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Localizer wrote:The answer to the question is simple ... hire enough to have an actual reserve. Quit this skeleton crewing BS and stop relying on people to do WDO's. Hire enough crew to run the operation properly.
I agree, the situation is getting better on the pilot side, but I think when the Jan bid is over, it will show that Jazz is still understaffed by an X number of guys.

As for F/As, I've heard the same story, if not worse, so another G/S or two would be great!

Maybe, if I keep my fingers crossed someone 'important' at Jazz, will actually read our posts here on AvCanada and act on it immediately :lol:
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I sincerely hope that my inquiry did not come across as a question of the pilots performance. My cause for concern was solely directed at management. In the event that this rumor is even remotely true, it is, in my opinion, the managements wholehearted responsibility to manage the crewing requirements. As a pilot it is our responsibility to ensure that a flight, whether it occurs on a 757 or a Dash, will be conducted with safety in mind first, and all things being equal, do our best to ensure OTP. I have no doubt that our pilot group would accomplish those goals with the utmost professionalism. We, as a pilot group can't help with crewing requirements in the back end but if it is infact true that flights have been capped with respect to passenger loads our only option is to voice our concern bc it could affect our pocket book as a result. I believe that at this juncture we will see as to whether this management group has the ability to properly manage. This contract is much different than our CPA with AC and I believe requires a bit more of a hands on approach. IMHO.

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Re: Thomas Cook in Jeopardy?

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At the last hiring spree (2005-2007). Jazz introduced what 20 RJ to the operation (or something like that anyways). At the same time just about every airline out there was poaching pilots from Jazz. Although there were times that I thought we were short, we were properly staffed. We were never as understaffed as we are right now!!!!

We were having Groundschool every 2 weeks for both pilots and FAs. We had vacancy bids on top of the Bi-annuals bids. So what happened? Did the company forget how to hire people?

Clearly this is management playing with fire.......

I do agree this should be disscussed in the ALPA forum or at the very least the Jazz private forum below.

From what I have heard, aside from a few growing pains in the back end (which they are sorting out). The 757 operations is going quite smoothly. We are only 2 months in.
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genetic jack hammer wrote:Who wants to bet that management will lay blame on the crews, and not on their piss poor crew planning?
Nothin' else new here ...
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Dark Helmet wrote:\

From what I have heard, aside from a few growing pains in the back end (which they are sorting out). The 757 operations is going quite smoothly. We are only 2 months in.
Is thar any more info about the 757s and how they are running? What are the trips like? For how many years seniority does it take to get to fly the 757?
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This topic was restarted under the private forum out of respect for those that asked.
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COMETer wrote: Is thar any more info about the 757s and how they are running? What are the trips like? For how many years seniority does it take to get to fly the 757?
With the first bid, 4 years got ya right seat. The next one will be alot more though

Now, I rarely defend mangement here but what you have to also take into account that on the CPA side we were reduced a couple aircraft and now Air Canada increased our flying 6% for the forseeable future. So with that being a short notice increase in the CPA and the TC stuff yes just maybe Management was caught blind. Now its January they should have everyone hired and in training to make up the shortfall by now.
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