Bachelor / Master's degree - long distance learning

[rotateandfly]

Is there such thing as a Master's / Bachelor's degree program in Canada that will give credit for an ATPL / work experience and offers long distance learning? Basically looking for the Canadian version of Embry Riddle (in the US). But that program is just ridiculously expensive!

[Nark]

I can't answer for the Canadian portion of the question, but can suggest a few other schools down here that offer credit for certificates. I think Middle Tenn state, ASU and there are a number of others that offer credit.

Embry-Riddle is the best marketed flight school in the US. Ridiculously overpriced. I never see embry ID lanyards. Most graduates are laughed at when they mention they went there.

[flying4dollars]

Embry-Riddle is the best marketed flight school in the US. Ridiculously overpriced. I never see embry ID lanyards. Most graduates are laughed at when they mention they went there.

Whys that? How do you know this? I always thought Embry Riddle was well respected.

[Nark]

It has much to do with the excessive amount of kool-aid the students drink. Talk to any ERAU flight student, they think they're the cat's ass. Most I've met have ego's even a 747 couldn't lift.

Now, talk to any ERAU graduate after a few years, they'll be the first to tell you that they overpaid for their education.

It's also standard to ask if you ever plant the bird on "Where'd you learn to fly, Embry-Riddle?
Purdue, and U North Dakota are also acceptable.




You know what most people are called after spending $120, 000+ for school?
Doctor.

[fingersmac]

Athabasca University in Alberta will give you credit towards a degree for a commercial license earned at an 'approved flight school' (not sure what is deemed an approved flight school). They are an industry leader in distance education and specialize in recognizing prior learning outside of a formal education setting. Plus they are a publicly funded university, no different than University of Calgary, McGill, UBC, etc.

Athabasca University CPL Credit

[wirez]

Do ERAU. I'm doing my courses there right now, and the online courses are not overpriced, they are quite comparable to a typical Canadian university at about $5000/yr.

[Panama Jack]

Sounds like sour grapes, Nark. Yes, the program is expensive but most US College tuition is unless you can slip-in as a State resident. Embry-Riddle still is well regarded in the industry. As far as attitudes, there is no monopoly on that from some 'Riddle Alumni.

[scopiton]

embry riddle is quiet (very) expensive but services offered are well worth it (you can borrow books from the library they'll send them for free anywhere in the world)
1 course is 900$ (online for a Bsc) but if you have good results they'll offer you 50% less from time to time.
as for the ego, I never met ER students so I can't say but exchange on courses' forum are always well informed and productive.

[rotateandfly]

yeah i was talking to some students already enrolled telling me overall costs would be somewhere close to $30,000 +
I was looking for something to fill standby / reserve days but not something that will bankrupt me..

[Broken]

Here is the cost of tuition for a BS in environmental policy management from an online school in the states.(Kaplan)ER seems pretty cheap
Total cost of tuition $66,780.00

[rigpiggy]

ERAU=Seneca, btw kennedy got his license there. how'd that work out

[Bede]

I did my undergrad through ERAU. The courses were comparable in price to Canadian tuition. Advantage it you need less courses because they give you credit for the courses you would take in their Aeronautical Science program. The other nice thing is you can "challenge" up to 5 courses. You basically take the courses final exam, and need 70% to pass. I did this for Computer Science 101 (How to use Word and Excel), and another couple courses. I failed my Aviation Law challenge exam, which was not at all similar to "Air law" as taught to pilots, but aviation law as taught to lawyers doing aviation related work.

[groundpilot]

I just finished the ERAU MBA. It was paid for so nothing out of pocket for me but my opinion was that if I was paying for the classes, I wouldnt have finished the program. Its just not worth the money. Classes were about $2500 each. Although some of the classes were alright, I just don't think online education is all that good unless the profs really put the effort in and unfortunately most didn't.

As for Narks comments, yikes. I fly with a US marine right now and he is a totally different person than you!! Thank god we have him and not you, wow.

[Nark]

Not all Marines are roses and sunshine.

[flying4dollars]

I think my program (I'd be alumni now of course) offers a correspondence through ERAU to obtain a degree. My credits for my diploma are recognized by them and I've been tinkering doing the correspondence course to get a degree in a Bachelor of Science in Aviation or something. Anyone do this program by any chance?

[just curious]

If you went to an Av college, then the odds are good that they have an articulation agreement with several universities. Sault and Seneca both have ERAU and I believe UND.
As a general rule, Athabasca offers more bang for the buck in terms of credit off-sets.

[Expat]

I work in recruitment now, and on-line diplomas have a bad smell to them. I myself sat for 5 years on wood chairs to get a B Adm and 2 years of B Eng., and have little respect for people who just fork over money for a diploma. My own friends told me how they managed to get on line education, without studying. You have to write a paper, then you go on line, and buy it. Then submit it. As a recruiter, I have to laugh at the cases we see here...
On line education is a scam. I would never pay a cent for it. Universities offer it to get revenues... credits and offsets are just a publidity scam to get more students in.
I happen to vividly remember the Critical Path Method Project Management I learned 37 years ago! I use it now on special projects. Actually, I still remember everything I learned then.
Nothing beats studying...