The Bum is dead!!!!

[Dash-Ate]

We know he has WMD!! Oops wrong lie.


"The most important thing is for us to find Osama bin Laden. It is our number one priority and we will not rest until we find him." September 13, 2001, President George Bush

"I don't know where bin Laden is. I have no idea and really don't care. It's not that important. It's not our priority." March 13, 2002, President George Bush

June 18, 2006: FBI says, it has "No hard evidence connecting Bin Laden to 9/11

[azimuthaviation]

My persective, if it wasnt a big deal that he wasnt caught on april 30, its not a big deal that he was caught on may 1st.

[Nark]

Azimouth

He wasn't caught on either days, he was shot in the head.

Good riddance...

[Rockie]

Best line from one of the late night comics:

"I need a house full of Navy Seals like I need a hole in the head"

[Dash-Ate]

Dead men (and women) tell no tales - from today's Pakistani Observer.
Remember war is a good business and the first casualty of war is the truth. We know he has WMD! You still believe these people??? Crazy.

Did Osama really die on Monday in Abbottabad?
Observer Exclusive
Akhtar Jamal

Islamabad—The claims regarding Osama bin Laden’s death began almost immediately after Sept. 11, 2001 American invasion of Afghanistan.

In 2010 a website released photo of the body of Osama bin Laden and claimed that he was killed several years ago. But what is more surprising is that the very same photo was being circulated Monday after U.S. forces reported that Osama bin Laden was killed early Monday.

It was not clear why the same photo of “dead Osama” which was available with several regional agencies were released Monday once again to the media.

This led to speculations that “Osama’s body might have been brought in to be later ‘discovered’ from the scene of clash with other Al-Qaeda militants.

The discovery of Osama’s body from Bilal Town, Abbottabad has increased pressure on Pakistani security forces.

Some experts expressed surprise over official confirmation of Osama’s death at highest level in the United States just within a few hours of Osama’s death. Experts say that a DNA test cannot be done within a few hours and professionals cannot be satisfied with DNA tests conducted within three or four hours after death.

American, French, Saudi and even Pakistani leaders Benazir Bhutto and President Zardari had claimed that Osama was long dead.

In 2007, Benazir Bhutto in an interview with U.S. TV channel claimed that the Al-Qaeda leader was ‘murdered’ years ago. In the interview, she identified the man who killed the notorious al-Qaeda leader as one Omar Sheikh. A few weeks after her statement Benazir Bhutto was assassinated on December 27, 2007.

The report that Osama bin Laden’s body had been buried at sea, claiming it was in accordance with Islamic law, has also raised several questions. It is also a fact that burial at sea is not an Islamic practice and Islam does not determine a timeframe for burial.

Here is the time-line on claims of Osama bin Laden’s death since 2002.

July, 2002 FBI counter-terrorism chief Dale Watson tells a law enforcement conference: “I personally think bin Laden is probably not with us anymore, but I have no evidence to support that.”

August 2002, an American radio host Alex Jones announces, citing high-level Bush administration sources, “that bin Laden died of natural causes and that his family has given the body to the CIA.” Jones added, “they’re gonna roll him out right before the election, he’s on ice right now.”

May, 2003 French military analyst announces that bin Laden was killed in an American air raid in Tora Bora shortly after the invasion of Afghanistan in 2001.

February, 2004 Iranian Radio reports that bin Laden was captured in the Afghan-Pakistan border area “a long time ago”—but the official announcement was delayed because “Bush is intending to use it for propaganda maneuvering in the presidential election.”

April, 2005 The Israeli press picks up an account from a radical Muslim London newspaper: “We now report that the al-Qaeda organization has announced the death of Osama Bin Laden.”

September 2006 French intelligence document says that Saudis believe bin Laden had died of typhoid in Pakistan.

June 2008: Citing two unnamed officials, Time magazine reports that a recent CIA study has concluded bin Laden has long-term kidney disease and “may only have months to live.”

April, 2009 President Asif Ali Zardari tells the media that his country’s intelligence services “obviously feel that (bin Laden) does not exist anymore”.

Finally on May 2, 2011 American President Barak Obama announces that the U.S. killed bin Laden in Pakistan.

[bizjets101]

Motion to quash all outstanding warrants on Bin Laden . . .

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/05/04/nyreg ... ndex.jsonp

[Brewguy]

You know you've screwed the pooch pretty badly when the Afghan government is criticizing you:

Afghan official says Pakistan must have been aware bin Laden was living in military town
By Heidi Vogt,Rahim Faiez, The Associated Press | The Canadian Press – 33 minutes ago

KABUL - The Afghan government said Wednesday that Pakistan must have known Osama bin Laden was living in a military garrison town near the capital, echoing international suspicions about Islamabad in the aftermath of the deadly strike against al-Qaida's chief.

The two countries have long had tense relations, especially over the issue of Pakistan failing to target Taliban militants using its territory as sanctuary to launch cross-border attacks against Afghan and international forces.

"Not only Pakistan, with its strong intelligence service, but even a very weak government with a weak intelligence service would have known who was living in that house in such a location," said Defence Ministry spokesman Gen. Mohammad Zahir Azimi.

The house where bin Laden lived in the town of Abbottabad was close to the gate of the Kakul Military Academy, an army run institution where top Pakistani officers train, Azimi said, adding that many neighbouring houses are home to military officials.

"There are lots of questions that need answers," Azimi said.

Others have made similar remarks.

Britain's Prime Minister David Cameron said Tuesday that bin Laden must have had an extensive support network in Pakistan in the years before his death. And White House spokesman Jay Carney told reporters that the U.S. is committed to co-operating with Pakistan despite questions about who in the Islamabad government may have known bin Laden was in hiding in the compound in Abbottabad.

Afghan officials have long said that the real war against terrorism is not in Afghanistan, but across the border in Pakistan. And while they have welcomed international troops who are fighting back the Taliban insurgency in Afghanistan, they have also criticized these forces for backing a Pakistani government that Afghan officials say is double-dealing.

Azimi went on to say that Afghanistan is bracing for revenge attacks following the bin Laden strike, but expects that the al-Qaida leader's death will eventually make it easier to defeat the Taliban.

The nearly 10-year war in Afghanistan started as a manhunt for bin Laden in 2001. Many inside Afghanistan and in foreign countries fighting the war have raised questions about whether his death will shorten or ease the battle with the Taliban insurgency, but the U.S. and others pledged there wouldn't be a rapid withdrawal.

On the day that bin Laden's death was announced, Afghan President Hamid Karzai called it a blow to terrorism but made no predictions about how it would affect the war in his country.

Azimi, for his part, predicted al-Qaida revenge attacks in the immediate aftermath of the terror chief's death.

"The first phase will be for a short period of time, a revenge phase in order show that even if he is gone, others are keeping the network together," he said, adding that Afghan security forces have already increased their presence in key areas and their readiness in anticipation of such attacks.

"Then slowly the situation will become more normal and that will start to show how Osama's absence effects the structure of the network," Azimi said.

International forces say a persistent campaign against insurgents over the summer has driven them out of their traditional strongholds and destroyed the weapons caches they depend on to mount their seasonal spring offensive.

The Taliban, however, have started the spring fighting season with high-profile attacks apparently designed to show their strength and their ability to infiltrate the government. In April, the insurgent group launched deadly attacks from within the Defence Ministry in Kabul, the main police headquarters in southern Kandahar city and a joint U.S.-Afghan base in the east. The militants also managed to break more than 480 of their compatriots out of the Kandahar city prison with an elaborate tunnel escape.

On Wednesday, U.S. officials confirmed that two rockets had struck inside Bagram Air Field — the main U.S. base in Afghanistan — the night before.

The strikes resulted in only "a couple very minor injuries," said Lt. Col. Patrick Seiber, a spokesman for U.S. forces in the east. He also noted that rockets hit inside Bagram about once every two or three weeks.

But the strike are a reminder that violence continues unabated in Afghanistan despite the removal of bin Laden.

Separately Wednesday, NATO forces rejected accusations that they had killed a private security guard under contract to protect a road travelled by their supply convoys. The international military coalition said that the man who was killed was not working for a security company and was a militant involved in setting up an ambush.

Afghan police and the man's alleged employer — Watan Risk Management — have maintained that it was a Watan guard who was killed while trying to protect the road.

[cdnpilot77]

Here is the time-line on claims of Osama bin Laden’s death since 2002.

July, 2002 FBI counter-terrorism chief Dale Watson tells a law enforcement conference: “I personally think bin Laden is probably not with us anymore, but I have no evidence to support that.”

August 2002, an American radio host Alex Jones announces, citing high-level Bush administration sources, “that bin Laden died of natural causes and that his family has given the body to the CIA.” Jones added, “they’re gonna roll him out right before the election, he’s on ice right now.”

May, 2003 French military analyst name??announces that bin Laden was killed in an American air raid in Tora Bora shortly after the invasion of Afghanistan in 2001.

February, 2004 Iranian Radio reports that bin Laden was captured in the Afghan-Pakistan border area “a long time ago”—but the official announcement was delayed because “Bush is intending to use it for propaganda maneuvering in the presidential election.”

April, 2005 The Israeli press picks up an account from a radical Muslim London newspaper: “We now report that the al-Qaeda organization has announced the death of Osama Bin Laden.”

September 2006 French intelligence document says that Saudis believe bin Laden had died of typhoid in Pakistan.

June 2008: Citing two unnamed officials, Time magazine reports that a recent CIA study has concluded bin Laden has long-term kidney disease and “may only have months to live.”

April, 2009 President Asif Ali Zardari tells the media that his country’s intelligence services “obviously feel that (bin Laden) does not exist anymore”.

Finally on May 2, 2011 American President Barak Obama announces that the U.S. killed bin Laden in Pakistan.

How many of those were from RELIABLE sources in the KNOW with any shred of PROOF??

[JakeYYZ]

Did anyone check the stiff for freezer burn?

[Brewguy]

I'm sure they'll release the kill-shot photos soon.
.... off topic, anyone know how long it takes Madame Tussauds to make a realistic wax figure? What if it's a 'rush job' for a high-profile client?

[bizjets101]

Click Here Obama Administration NOT releasing photo.

[JakeYYZ]

Why the multiple versions of events? You would think that they would have reviewed the tapes, and “got their stories straight” before trotting out to the media and addressing the American people. This administration is embarrassing.

[Dash-Ate]

Was FOX lying in 2001 or just too lazy to check?? The elites rulers know we have short memories, they can tell us anything on TV and we believe it. If it's on TV it must be true! Let's make war.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,41576,00.html

Report: Bin Laden Already Dead
Wednesday, December 26, 2001

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Usama bin Laden has died a peaceful death due to an untreated lung complication, the Pakistan Observer reported, citing a Taliban leader who allegedly attended the funeral of the Al Qaeda leader.

"The Coalition troops are engaged in a mad search operation but they would never be able to fulfill their cherished goal of getting Usama alive or dead," the source said.

Bin Laden, according to the source, was suffering from a serious lung complication and succumbed to the disease in mid-December, in the vicinity of the Tora Bora mountains. The source claimed that bin Laden was laid to rest honorably in his last abode and his grave was made as per his Wahabi belief.

[cdnpilot77]

The Taliban and Al Queda leaders wouldnt lie to the world saying Bin Laden was dead to take the US focus off of him would they? They must be the honourable ones where the Superpower Tyrants of the world have NO ability to speak the truth!! Unbelieveable dude!! do you need a hug? Must be hard to live such a skeptical life

[iflyforpie]

Was FOX lying in 2001 or just too lazy to check?? The elites rulers know we have short memories, they can tell us anything on TV and we believe it. If it's on TV it must be true! Let's make war.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,41576,00.html

Report: Bin Laden Already Dead
Wednesday, December 26, 2001

E-MailRespondPrintShare:
Usama bin Laden has died a peaceful death due to an untreated lung complication, the Pakistan Observer reported, citing a Taliban leader who allegedly attended the funeral of the Al Qaeda leader.

"The Coalition troops are engaged in a mad search operation but they would never be able to fulfill their cherished goal of getting Usama alive or dead," the source said.

Bin Laden, according to the source, was suffering from a serious lung complication and succumbed to the disease in mid-December, in the vicinity of the Tora Bora mountains. The source claimed that bin Laden was laid to rest honorably in his last abode and his grave was made as per his Wahabi belief.

You need to have a lung complication of your own to believe that....

[Indanao]

The way it is, " washing out" they may have got him. If the neighbors are mostly high ranking military officials, they knew who was living there. As the Pakistan Government hasn't come out to say, " that wasn't Osama Bin Laden" - then it appears as if they are conceding it was.

[North Shore]

And the email jokes start flying. In my inbox today:

The newest cocktail at the bar: the 'Bin Laden'

(wait for it.....)

Two shots and a splash of water!

[JakeYYZ]

I think in these situations, the most important thing to us is showing religious respect.
Therefore, the raid was done between prayer times... NOT during! And when Osama was shot in the face, he was facing westward. I'm not sure that's actually religiously important, but if it is, then, yes, he was doing that. And when he was shot, the traditional Muslim expression of "Allahu Akbar!" was shouted -- except it was an English translation, so it was something like, "Thank you, Jesus!"

[Siddley Hawker]

[JakeYYZ]

They say “buried at sea” I say “naked and chained to a metal bed frame with a car battery connected to his bollocks whilst being beaten for answers”.

[cdnpilot77]

They say “buried at sea” I say “naked and chained to a metal bed frame with a car battery connected to his bollocks whilst being beaten for answers”.

Either way, he gets what he deserves

[azimuthaviation]

So now the rapidly changing information says that rather than several armed men firing RPG's from the rooftops and room by room battles, only one person was armed and was killed early. No one else opened fire. Ok so they got their man after 10 years (or 30 years if youre russian) but the big hollywoodesque description? please. How about some perspective. Why spoil the moment with all that self masturbatory overly dramatic fictional account of events? I thought I was reading the old testament. Some event of profound historic importance turned into a B action movie just to stoke the spirit and ego of the masses? Oh well the SEALs had their moment, their biggest achievement being they were able to helicopter in a group of 24 men and take on one armed man and leave with (most of) their helicopters. Not bad.

[AEROBAT]

Bin Laden got started on his infamous career fighting the Russians in Afganistan. He was funded by the CIA and the Saudi government. That is not conspiracy theory BS it is true and easily researched.

He led one of many Jihadist groups fighting the Russians. They were based out of Pakistan and would cross over into Afganistan fighting the Soviets. Eventualy the Taliban became the leading Jihadist faction fighting in Afganistan and ultimately formed the "government".

The next major use of Bin Laden, by the West, was getting him to organize and recruit volunteers to go into Yugoslavia and stir up trouble with the Serbs. Remember that war? That is the one where the Moslems were supposed to be the good guys.

I believe he was killed recently as he had outlived his usefullness. If he really expected to be taken out I would think he would have had been a little more prepared. He was living only a few blocks away from a Pakistani military academy.

The Pakistani secret service is reportedly one of the best in the middle east so I am sure they knew he was there all along.

[North Shore]

I believe he was killed recently as he had outlived his usefullness.

And dead men tell no tales....

[AEROBAT]

I believe he was killed recently as he had outlived his usefullness.

And dead men tell no tales....

Exactly. People have very short memories. Kosovo has turned into a human trafficking and drug trafficking center. Members of the KLA [Kosovo Liberation Army] have been in Haiti helping to establish a government there for the past decade. Seems to be going well. At least they have the dope dealing and prostitution sewn up.