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flyalmaguin · Post by **flyalmaguin** » Wed May 04, 2011 10:40 am

Oops

Guess this plane has a larger turning radius than we thought....

http://www.thestar.com/news/article/985 ... t-mud?bn=1

vortac · Post by **vortac** » Wed May 04, 2011 11:52 am

“This pilot was experienced, but he kind of went a little wide I guess on making the turn,” Fitzpatrick said.

Note how airlines use the word "experienced" pilot/crew in post incident interviews so arbitrarily. Yet in many cases that is not even true, especially when the ink is still wet on the PPC.

How about admitting that perhaps our newly minted tiller operator was just in a hurry to get his four round trips to Montreal over with and was just not careful enough. I'm sure they'll be much more careful during an IMC IFR approach into YTZ though.

cggnl · Post by **cggnl** » Wed May 04, 2011 12:06 pm

Maybe surfin' the net on the IPAD!
cggnl

dashx · Post by **dashx** » Wed May 04, 2011 12:27 pm

It happens.

Next time keep your hands off the shiny new Ipad2.

bombardierfixer · Post by **bombardierfixer** » Wed May 04, 2011 3:48 pm

Could be worse...

http://avherald.com/h?article=4169c1a8

cyeg66 · Post by **cyeg66** » Wed May 04, 2011 4:34 pm

Perhaps he looked in the dictionary and selected the wrong definition of "tiller"?

square · Post by **square** » Wed May 04, 2011 5:17 pm

cyeg66 wrote:Perhaps he looked in the dictionary and selected the wrong definition of "tiller"?

There's a tiller joke to be made here.. but that is definitely not it.

Flying Nutcracker · Post by **Flying Nutcracker** » Wed May 04, 2011 5:20 pm

The joke I see involves the loadfactor of 16 passengers...

teacher · Post by **teacher** » Wed May 04, 2011 5:31 pm

Flying Nutcracker wrote:The joke I see involves the loadfactor of 16 passengers...

How many passengers did Porter have when they started their service? Yah, I thought so.

dashx · Post by **dashx** » Wed May 04, 2011 7:01 pm

Don't worry. Porter has had their own "minor" issues. A tail strike would be just one of them.

Sinking in the mud is (still) just an inconvenience.

DR0231T ..TIRE−34 X 10.75−16, 16 PLY (V97153) (POST MODSUM 4−900582)

Perhaps "high floatation" tires may be the order of the day (or in this case season).

flyincanuck · Post by **flyincanuck** » Wed May 04, 2011 8:35 pm

This isn't funny. Careful what you laugh at...karma has a way of taking names. We've all had our bloopers...let's keep it professional.

Glad no one was hurt.

teacher · Post by **teacher** » Thu May 05, 2011 5:47 am

flyincanuck wrote:This isn't funny. Careful what you laugh at...karma has a way of taking names. We've all had our bloopers...let's keep it professional.

Glad no one was hurt.

Exactly folks, don't make fun at someone else's mistake, you can easily be the next one.

cyeg66 · Post by **cyeg66** » Thu May 05, 2011 12:20 pm

One day, this tiller walked into a bar..... No, sorry, that's not it either.

teacher wrote:
How many passengers did Porter have when they started their service? Yah, I thought so.

But then again, we're not really talking about a startup....

teacher · Post by **teacher** » Fri May 06, 2011 5:25 am

cyeg66 wrote:But then again, we're not really talking about a startup....

True but the service is a start up. I'm sure the loads will improve pretty fast but honestly, there's only so many passenger that can/want to fly out of YTZ.

co-joe · Post by **co-joe** » Fri May 06, 2011 2:16 pm

The joke I saw was the title of this thread referencing a thousand lawyers at the bottom of the sea.

winds_in_flight_wtf · Post by **winds_in_flight_wtf** » Fri May 06, 2011 3:41 pm

teacher wrote:
Flying Nutcracker wrote:The joke I see involves the loadfactor of 16 passengers...
How many passengers did Porter have when they started their service? Yah, I thought so.

True, and how long has Air Canada been around ? "Starting up" is a bullshit excuse and does not have any merit. People would rather fly Porter when possible for obvious reasons. Also, AC is just a few miles away from their dominatrix hub. ... so yeah , thought so.

KK7 · Post by **KK7** » Fri May 06, 2011 4:32 pm

It's still a start up - new route, new service. They were supposed to start in Feb, but they didn't end up starting until May. To a member of the public, why would you book tickets in advance on a flight that may not even happen. Once people see that they do in fact go every day, and are actually started up, then they will start booking. New routes don't usually have many pax on them at first, startup company or not.

whiteguy · Post by **whiteguy** » Fri May 06, 2011 5:29 pm

winds_in_flight_wtf wrote:
teacher wrote:
Flying Nutcracker wrote:The joke I see involves the loadfactor of 16 passengers...
How many passengers did Porter have when they started their service? Yah, I thought so.
True, and how long has Air Canada been around ? "Starting up" is a bullshit excuse and does not have any merit. People would rather fly Porter when possible for obvious reasons. Also, AC is just a few miles away from their dominatrix hub. ... so yeah , thought so.

Wow, you thought that was a joke? you must have had a good laugh when Porter was running to MDW with 7 people on board!

winds_in_flight_wtf · Post by **winds_in_flight_wtf** » Fri May 06, 2011 6:34 pm

A new Airline (Unfamiliar to people ) , starting up an attractive niche which was a turn on to many people ....in an airport which was seldom used by the airline world. Understandably ops were slow. But now that Air Canada, (the worlds most amazing gift from God airline) has started ... it would make sense that their flights are completely full because they offer nothing but the best ........ right

scgyob · Post by **scgyob** » Sat May 07, 2011 1:42 am

vortac wrote:
“This pilot was experienced, but he kind of went a little wide I guess on making the turn,” Fitzpatrick said.
Note how airlines use the word "experienced" pilot/crew in post incident interviews so arbitrarily. Yet in many cases that is not even true, especially when the ink is still wet on the PPC.

How about admitting that perhaps our newly minted tiller operator was just in a hurry to get his four round trips to Montreal over with and was just not careful enough. I'm sure they'll be much more careful during an IMC IFR approach into YTZ though.

SAME BLABLA DIFFERENT DAY. The captain was a highly trained captain and test pilot with Bombardier

Have a nice day dumm.....

dashx · Post by **dashx** » Sun May 08, 2011 12:58 pm

captain was a highly trained captain and test pilot with Bombardier

I would have said "the captain was highly trained (on the Q400) and a Bombardier test pilot" but that's just me.

Now hold on here...... A test pilot put in the mud?

A Bombardier test pilot?

Oh wait I think I'm beating a dead horse here.

Intentional Left Bank · Sun May 08, 2011 2:53 pm

From 2008-06-16 Cadors Number: 2008O1179

The Porter Airlines Inc. de Havilland DHC-8-402 aircraft (operating as flight POE133) was taxiing in preparation for departure on an IFR flight from Toronto (City Centre) Airport (CYTZ) to Newark (Liberty) International Airport, NJ (U.S.A.) (KEWR). The aircraft taxied too close to the edge of taxiway CHARLIE and got stuck. Once loose, the aircraft had to cancel the planned departure to permit a shut down and inspection of the wheel. The flight subsequently departed after hours at 0313Z. Ops. impact -- unknown.

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