Progressive Parents Raise Genderless Baby

[JakeYYZ]

Meet the Progressive’s: David Stocker and his wife Kathy Witterick. Guess what Stocker does for a living?
Stocker teaches at City View Alternative, a tiny school west of Dufferin Grove Park, with four teachers and about 60 Grade 7 and 8 students whose lessons are framed by social-justice issues around class, race and gender.
Witterick doesn’t work, but has given workshops to teachers in “violence prevention” — whatever that means .
They have 3 children; Storm, Jazz and Kio. Jazz and Kio have picked out their own clothes in the boys and girls sections of stores since they were 18 months old. Just this week, Jazz unearthed a pink dress at Value Village, which he loves because it “really poofs out at the bottom. It feels so nice.” The boys decide whether to cut their hair or let it grow. …
The boys are encouraged to challenge how they’re expected to look and act based on their sex.
Storm’s the new addition to the family. They aren’t telling anyone whether their third child is a boy or a girl. The only people who know are Storm’s brothers, Jazz, 5, and Kio, 2, a close family friend and the two midwives who helped deliver the baby in a birthing pool at their Toronto home on New Year’s Day. According to Dad, it’s “obnoxious” for parents to chose their children’s gender.
Read the rest: http://www.parentcentral.ca/parent/babi ... der-secret

The moonbat mom and dad are oblivious to the train wreck they are making of their children’s psyches.
“We spend more time than we should providing explanations for why we do things this way,” says Witterick. “I regret that (Jazz) has to discuss his gender before people ask him meaningful questions about what he does and sees in this world, but I don’t think I am responsible for that — the culture that narrowly defines what he should do, wear and look like is.”
You got that? It’s all the fault of normal people for not being militant weirdos.
I see a clock tower rifle scenario in this family’s future.

[hz2p]

No kidding. Ernest Hemingway was dressed up as girl when he was a child, and he spent the rest of his life compensating for it, travelling all over the world killing legions of unarmed animals.

[bmc]

Good approach to teaching coping skills and how to exist in your community.

We had friends visiting us a while back. Their two kids were below the age of seven. Neither had heard the word "no" before. The parents believed that "no" was a negative word that would stunt their growth by limiting them.

I'm sure they did well once they started at school.

Parents should have to pass a test to have parents. What these nutjobs are doing, amounts to child abuse.

[Shiny Side Up]

Is it just me or are there getting more and more crazies in the world? Maybe they're just comming out of the woodwork since it seems to be the order of the day to put up with this kind of bizarre behavior. I always wonder what produces these sorts of people.

Nevermind that, but if one supposes that they have some sort of point with this social experimentation they're doing on their own children, to what end is it? Will these children exibit some sort of advantage with their androgynous upbringing? I have trouble believeing society would be better off if we were all "Pats".

[Beefitarian]

I think in this and some other cases the internet/chain mail makes these stories get around better.

[v6g]

He's gonna be one tough kid by the time he finishes his first term at school.

[Dagwood]

What exactly are parents for anyway? When I was growing up, my folks set the bedtime, mealtime, and I had to help with chores around the house. Homework had to be done, "questionable" friends avoided, and I had no allowance. It was a tough life.

I guess that is all old-fashioned now. Kids today will be so much better off without rules.

[Siddley Hawker]

Kio, Jazz and Storm. They must hate the poor little buggers to hang something like that on 'em.

[Cam]

I wonder if they vote Conservative?

[rigpiggy]

Should have called him Sue

[niss]

I don't want to sound like I'm supporting them because I'm far from it. But:

Could someone here please write down how to perfectly raise perfect children go are guaranteed to become perfect members of society?

A few paragraphs will do. I'll wait. It's for a book I'm writing titled "the way we have always done things is perfect, and there is never ever any reason to progress beyond established norms".

[Darkwing Duck]

Kio, Jazz and Storm. They must hate the poor little buggers to hang something like that on 'em.

Sound like the parents were either X-Men fans or they are trying to name the kids after the car they were conceived in.

But really, how can you have a genderless child. The Good Lord created us as either a boy or a girl and programed us to act either masculine or feminine. There ain't no two ways about it. You is what you is. These parents have been into the piyote way too much.

[niss]

The Good Lord created us as either a boy or a girl and programed us to act either masculine or feminine.

How do you explain the hermaphrodites and transgendered that The Good Lord created?

[Shiny Side Up]

Could someone here please write down how to perfectly raise perfect children go are guaranteed to become perfect members of society?

Like everything that can be lumped into the big scheme of things that can be called "life" thre is no best or perfect way of doing it. People have been raising kids with various means and using various methods for generations and largely being successful, if the simple indication that the population continues to grow and survive. But while success in terms of life is an elusive, amorphous thing, failure at the process is fairly obvious. In the old days, it was also fairly well defined, usually by the indication of a failure to survive. These days its not as obvious. One's job as a parent is to ensure that when the child becomes an adult they are going to be equipped to survive the physical world and the social one. Do you think that this is their goal with what seems to be a social experiment on their part? Or are they doing this to satisfy their own curiousity?

[niss]

My point was to Dagwoods post.

Just because he was raised a certain way does not guarantee good well adjusted children. There are different parenting styles and each yield different results.

I do not agree with or support what these parents are doing, but just because it is different then how you or I were raised does not make it incorrect, how it is different is what makes it odd.

[tca]

I don't want to sound like I'm supporting them because I'm far from it. But:

Could someone here please write down how to perfectly raise perfect children go are guaranteed to become perfect members of society?

A few paragraphs will do. I'll wait. It's for a book I'm writing titled "the way we have always done things is perfect, and there is never ever any reason to progress beyond established norms".

I sure don't know how to be a perfect parent (my kids are far from perfect, but I kinda love that about them), but I am fairly certain that these parents have it wrong. I am fairly progressive (despite being a conservative nutjob!) and I do recognize that for some people, their gender and their sex don't agree. But trying to ignore the whole notion of gender effectively devolves our society. I haven't pushed any macho masculine ideals on my boys, yet they still love cars and trucks and machines -- it's a matter of nature, not nurture. At the same time I haven't and won't discourage them if they show interest in "girly" things because I don't think that kids should be limited like that. If they want to dance, let them dance! (plus chicks dig a guy that knows how to dance!). You only get to be a kid once, but I can tell you I wouldn't want that one time to be as one of these guy's kids!

[niss]

Well put!

[bmc]

We have two daughters. We never approached our role as raising children, but rather as raising adults. We gave them responsibility when they were capable of handling. Today, they are solid grounded women that are very comfortable in their world. We never had any difficult period with them. No teenage crap from them. Not quite sure how we avoided that, but we did.

We tried hard to teach them coping skills. How to think and analyze choices before making decisions. It's worked well so far.

[. ._]

They'll probably grow up to be Wall Street speculators- to do coke, make lots of money, and finally get American citizenship- just to piss off their parents.

[Darkwing Duck]

The Good Lord created us as either a boy or a girl and programed us to act either masculine or feminine.

How do you explain the hermaphrodites and transgendered that The Good Lord created?

Listen, I can't explain why some turn out to be transgendered or hermaphrodites (can you) but I do know that in most cases we are genetically programed to either sway toward manly things like tools and trucks and guts and fighting and what not and some of us like the womanly things like cuddling and knitting and baking cookies and playing with Barbies. You know the sugar and spice and everything nice and the snails and pails and puppy dog tails. To tell your kids that they are an "IT" is taking it a little far. I can just imagine if one of the kids is a girl and she starts here womanly cycle what mom and dad, if the parental units are called that, would say. How to explain that one when the brothers do not have to go through that.

What baffles the hell out of me is there is a school out there that promotes this crap, and people FORCE thier kids to believe in this shit. Give me a fricken break.

[niss]

Fair enough. I do not disagree.

[SuperchargedRS]

Well lets see how it turns out, my guess is not well. Not choosing their gender, maybe I missed something but I think the thing the dictates the gender is, THEIR GENDER, do I need to give a anatomy class here? Not socializing children should be considered child abuse, probably causes more damage then beating them. Guess these parents just like to swim upstream.

[trey kule]

what I dont understand, is that if you are a parent, and you are happy with yourself , why would you not want your kids brought up the same way you were?

I simply cannot understand why parents would put their chhildren through this. Years ago calling parents adult friends by their first names was the rage..It all got changed the first day at school when they decided to call their teacher by their first name.

These poor little kids will step out into the world and quickly realize their parents are flakes.

[robertsailor1]

Some parents teach their young children religion..are you Ok with that??

[hz2p]

They'll probably get over it when they get older, with no permanent damage. Children are usually quite resilient.