Central Mountain Air

[flying4dollars]

Did you even read this thread?

Is his question not a valid? Seems to be. A company posts it's minimums for direct entry hires. How many of those successful applicants had exactly what was posted? Sounds like a fair question to me.[/quote]

The 1000 hour line is a hard one, however a note of caution about pushing for 1000 hours to skip the ramp line - once you do have 1000+, your resume goes in the direct right seat pile (and it's a big pile). Don't count on the phone call for a while. In the last couple years the average call-back time was in the 2500 - 3500 neighborhood (with a solid internal reference).

Not sure about anyone else but I understood the question to be how many 1000 hour guys get on DEFO, not what the average is.

[Les Habitants]

Well it's kind of hard to count the number of people who get on with EXACTLY 1000 hours. Logic dictates to me that he's asking because he wants to know if it's worth pushing 1000 hours to get direct entry FO (Why else would he ask?).

Nothing wrong with asking a question, but a pet peeve of mine is people who ask without looking.

[loopa]

The 1000 hour line is a hard one, however a note of caution about pushing for 1000 hours to skip the ramp line - once you do have 1000+, your resume goes in the direct right seat pile (and it's a big pile). Don't count on the phone call for a while. In the last couple years the average call-back time was in the 2500 - 3500 neighborhood (with a solid internal reference).

That seems very high...

In that case it looks like you'd be better off applying to Porter with times like that, as their company min for f/o seems to be more accurate at what they hire. 2 friends just got hired there around that time, and a third just got his upgrade.

Perhaps once you hit the 1000 hour line, go up north, fly a king air or something, apply to porter, upgrade, apply to WJ/ACA.

I've heard of people getting hired at PASCO with lower time, this is very out dated information however. Could have changed. Westwind ? ... Lots of good operators out there that can earn you good multi turbine time recognized towards your future.

Don't forget about Air Georgian out East... are they hiring in the 2500-3500 range? Or are they closer to the 1500 mark?

[airborne121]

Hi there. Few questions for anyone at CMA. Just curious, how many 1000 hour guys truly get on with CMA direct entry f/o?

Did you even read this thread?

Did you read what I asked? I didn't ask for an average, I asked exactly what I asked. Think next time before calling me out

Thanks Flying4dollars, you understood right. I asked how many actual 1000 hours get hired. For example, WestJet's requirements are 1500 hours (so they say), but how many hires actually have 1500 hours?

Also just wondering if people get hired directly onto the Dornier, or is that all done internally? Thanks

[AJV]

Hi there. Few questions for anyone at CMA. Just curious, how many 1000 hour guys truly get on with CMA direct entry f/o?

Did you even read this thread?

Did you read what I asked? I didn't ask for an average, I asked exactly what I asked. Think next time before calling me out

Thanks Flying4dollars, you understood right. I asked how many actual 1000 hours get hired. For example, WestJet's requirements are 1500 hours (so they say), but how many hires actually have 1500 hours?

Also just wondering if people get hired directly onto the Dornier, or is that all done internally? Thanks

I have heard that guys do get on at or close to 1000 but I would think it really depends on your references, if you know someone there that is in good standing and they are willing to go to bat for you then I think you have a much better chance, as for the D I have no idea as I don't work there but would like to someday.....

[AJV]

BTW it would be nice if people would actually provide useful information rather than arguing on the forum....

[Les Habitants]

Hi there. Few questions for anyone at CMA. Just curious, how many 1000 hour guys truly get on with CMA direct entry f/o?

Did you even read this thread?

Did you read what I asked? I didn't ask for an average, I asked exactly what I asked. Think next time before calling me out

Thanks Flying4dollars, you understood right. I asked how many actual 1000 hours get hired. For example, WestJet's requirements are 1500 hours (so they say), but how many hires actually have 1500 hours?

Also just wondering if people get hired directly onto the Dornier, or is that all done internally? Thanks

You asked exactly what you asked....lol, sorry, I just found it an amusing statement.

Apologies, I'm not trying to harp on you, but it seems like a slightly wierd question to ask, and I suppose I misunderstood WHAT exactly it was you were asking.

[BE02]

Hi guys,

Some people are hired with the 1000 hour minimum, however the average I would agree would be closer to 2300TT. Usually the people hired with 1000 hours have multiple internal references and even then it is not a guaranteed interview. The stack of resumes from people with 1000 hours I would assume is very large, so if they can get people with more then why not? It seems they have been after people lately who can upgrade quickly due to the high level of attrition to AC/WJ that has recently been experianced.

Hope this helps

[modi13]

How much weight is given to the type of flying the candidate has done? Would they take a 1500 hour pilot with 1200 hours right seat on a Beech twin turbine over someone with 2000 hours single-engine PIC? Or does total time play a much greater role?

[airborne121]

You asked exactly what you asked....lol, sorry, I just found it an amusing statement.

Apologies, I'm not trying to harp on you, but it seems like a slightly wierd question to ask, and I suppose I misunderstood WHAT exactly it was you were asking.

All good mate. No harm done

Does CMA have a Dash 8 now? I noticed the flight attendant posting in the job ads and there's mention of a Dash 8-300. I wasn't aware they operate Dash 8'snow. But it's cool that they're expanding their fleet like that.

[whiteguy]

How much weight is given to the type of flying the candidate has done? Would they take a 1500 hour pilot with 1200 hours right seat on a Beech twin turbine over someone with 2000 hours single-engine PIC? Or does total time play a much greater role?

I bugged them for a while. When I was below 1000 the answer was always "1000 is our minimums". When I got over 1000 it was "we are hiring Capts or contrail". Stopped calling them last fall when I had 1400 hrs with 500 of it on the 1900 and 7 or 8 references within the company. Never got called.

[Lpsi]

Hello Whiteguy,

Rumor has it if you change your Handle to WXXXeGirl your odds should improve

I'd say Study up on New Zealand, Skiing in YYD, and prepare to submit your AVCANADA Handle during the interview and I'd say your Good to Go! The Big Guy " The one with the Old Blue Sweater" is Sometimes hard to understand " Thick Accent" Verrrry Thick.

Its a Great place to build with and I do mean that!

Good Luck

[whiteguy]

Hello Whiteguy,

Rumor has it if you change your Handle to WXXXeGirl your odds should improve

I'd say Study up on New Zealand, Skiing in YYD, and prepare to submit your AVCANADA Handle during the interview and I'd say your Good to Go! The Big Guy " The one with the Old Blue Sweater" is Sometimes hard to understand " Thick Accent" Verrrry Thick.

Its a Great place to build with and I do mean that!

Good Luck

I guess.

Just giving an example of what they may or may not be looking for. I've moved on. Thanks for the advice though. I think?