TMA DHC-6 has a very hard landing during a training flight

[Apollo]

The Civil Aviation Department has said that it will wait to complete an investigation into the crash landing of a Trans Maldivian Airways (TMA) seaplane near Biyaadhoo Island Resort during a training flight this morning, before considering amendments to flight policy in the country.

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When asked about the number of incidents investigated in relation to the country’s seaplane operations from the start of this year, Jaleel said he did not have the exact figures on him at the time of going to press as aviation authorities investigated incidents of varying severity in the course of their work.

However, the aviation department director general told Minivan News that in terms of events like a crash landing, this was believed to be the first case of such an incident occurring in 2011.

Back in December 2010, the Civil Aviation Department confirmed that a collision had occurred between a Maldivian Air Taxi seaplane and another aircraft at Male’ International Airport that resulted in no injuries or major damage being recorded.

Authorities said at the time that investigators had found the collision to be a minor accident involving the wingtip of an aircraft colliding with another craft, an event which was not seen as “a major safety concern” for future operations.

Good to hear that both pilots made it out safe and sound. Wondering what they were practicing, if I had to guess, it looks like maybe a flapless landing?

[sean.j]

flapless landings on whips are very doscile hell even maldivians could do them.

[cdnpilot77]

Single engine flapless landing?

[crazy_aviator]

An airplanes worst enemy is "the Pilot"

[sean.j]

Single engine flapless landing?

yup, dosen't matter how many engines as the power leavers are at idle on touchdown. whips are a joke compared to caps

[Yankee]

There are a fair number of experienced "local" drivers in the Maldives. I wouldn't be so quick to slight them.......
In what way are the whips a joke compared to the caps?????

[sean.j]

There are a fair number of experienced "local" drivers in the Maldives. I wouldn't be so quick to slight them.......
In what way are the whips a joke compared to the caps?????

their so much easier to handle. flap less landings on caps are considered to dangerous to train for so their just briefed where as whips without flaps aren't even considered an emergency.

[Yankee]

I'll buy that. Prefer the caps for smooth wata........but I'll take the whips in rough seas.

[Apollo]

Any more information coming out of the Maldives regarding this one?

[Rowdy]

Glad all are OK. And anyone that wants to comment on the skill of the maldivian born crews must ask themselves.. how many wrecks have their been in the republic and of those wrecks... tell me how many had expats in the front seats.

[sean.j]

Account banned - Sulako

[Cat Driver]

You are way out of line Sean.j and you are insulting one of my friends.

This forum has enough assholes already, hopefully you will disappear.

[grimey]

And anyone that wants to comment on the skill of the maldivian born crews must ask themselves.. how many wrecks have their been in the republic and of those wrecks... tell me how many had expats in the front seats

your kidding right, you spent how long in a hospital cause you wrote off a beaver and your going to act superior to them cause they had an accident?

Good to know that they no longer teach reading comprehension in school. How many accidents in the maldives have had a maldivian in the pilot's seat, as a percentage? Rowdy wasn't acting superior to anyone, dipshit, you were.

[sean.j]

I'm just saying it's awfully close to the situation tonight in my kitchen when the pot and the kettle were having a racial argument.

[Blakey]

You're wrong as well as off-side. Rowdy never wrote off a Beaver.

[iflyforpie]

And anyone that wants to comment on the skill of the maldivian born crews must ask themselves.. how many wrecks have their been in the republic and of those wrecks... tell me how many had expats in the front seats

your kidding right, you spent how long in a hospital cause you wrote off a beaver and your going to act superior to them cause they had an accident?

Wow, they don't teach reading comprehension in Mount Royal, do they? How is he acting superior when he is saying that expats have been a factor in crashes vs nationals?

Be very careful what you post here. Aviation is a very small place and no shiny piece of paper will save a tarnished reputation.

[Apollo]

First - do we know that it was two divvy drivers? So far, all I've heard is just training flight, hard landing. Dunno where any other information is coming from.

As for Rowdy, well, I'm sure he's learned from his bent metal experience, and won't do it again.

[Rowdy]

Firstly, I dont think you've ever flown in the 'dives or probably anywhere for that matter.

Second, It wasnt in a beaver, it wasnt on floats. I got caught in a really shitty spot and made a mistake and paid dearly for it. Would you come out and say that bullshit to me face to face in person? Doubtful. You're a big man on the internet though.


Third, There is nothing racial about it. Look at the facts and the history before you start flapping your gums. The TWO MAT crashes which thankfully didnt result in any injuries were both Maldivian crews. I was there for one of them. The TMA machine that ended up on the runway (pretty sure that was a lack of flaps selected) also maldivian crew. Based on the time of year, and the picture, I'm going to assume it was a maldivian crew out doing some initial training. Maybe for a freshly minted co-pilot? but again, merely speculation and I could be 100% wrong there. Different culture, different strengths, different weaknesses. There are a handful of highly skilled local pilots. If there is any racism going on down there its towards the expats. Thats my Honest opinion after having lived and flown there, and I plan on going back. No superiority here.

And apparently I'm the one who doesnt know what I'm talking about? You've lost all credibility here champ. Now back to the topic at hand. Anyone with some solid info?

[sean.j]

This thread has a bad karma to it. so this will be my last post on it.

your right my memory had you wrecking a beaver, upon researching it it wasn't a beaver and it wasn't on floats. Your way off base on the experience and knowledge that I have but this thread isn't about that. It's about a regrettable indecent half way around the world and not Monday morning quarter-backing.

Sean

[Cat Driver]

So sean.j tell us about how much experience you have accumulated in the last four years since you left flight school.

You seem to be an expert on Twin Otters on floats judging by your stating that flap less landings in a Twin Otter on Cap floats are to dangerous to teach.

What did I not know thirty six years ago when I was training pilots on the T.O. on Cap floats, because unless you could demonstrate a flap less landing I would not have hired you.

[sean.j]

O.K. one more

So sean.j tell us about how much experience you have accumulated in the last four years since you left flight school.

You seem to be an expert on Twin Otters on floats judging by your stating that flap less landings in a Twin Otter on Cap floats are to dangerous to teach.

What did I not know thirty six years ago when I was training pilots on the T.O. on Cap floats, because unless you could demonstrate a flap less landing I would not have hired you.

what T.O. operator using cap floats trains the flap less landing these days? I heard stories of many a bush pilot your age putting away a flat of beer over the course of the day's flying. Does that mean that it's a good idea?

[rigpiggy]

sj pardon my french but, your a sphincter muscle.

[pez]

O.K. one more

So sean.j tell us about how much experience you have accumulated in the last four years since you left flight school.

You seem to be an expert on Twin Otters on floats judging by your stating that flap less landings in a Twin Otter on Cap floats are to dangerous to teach.

What did I not know thirty six years ago when I was training pilots on the T.O. on Cap floats, because unless you could demonstrate a flap less landing I would not have hired you.

what T.O. operator using cap floats trains the flap less landing these days? I heard stories of many a bush pilot your age putting away a flat of beer over the course of the day's flying. Does that mean that it's a good idea?

I usually lurk and rarely post, but this is now the third time I've written what is effectively the same post. The first two times I deleted it so as not to distract from a) the Mount Royal thread and b) Sask Air Am hangar damage thread.

sean.j, you come off as an arrogant little sh*t. And this in a community with more than its share of arrogant pricks (and I'm certainly not excluding myself here). Glad to hear that you're uniquely able to do no wrong, based largely on your "superior" Mount Royal education.

You've launched personal attacks on at least three folks on here, all of which are entirely baseless, and just rude. And that, coupled with your overall attitude, just pisses me off.

So - can we perhaps make an attempt to keep things civil?


-Colin

[Midnight Sun Flyer]

The Civil Aviation Department has said that it will wait to complete an investigation into the crash landing of a Trans Maldivian Airways (TMA) seaplane near Biyaadhoo Island Resort during a training flight this morning, before considering amendments to flight policy in the country.

...

When asked about the number of incidents investigated in relation to the country’s seaplane operations from the start of this year, Jaleel said he did not have the exact figures on him at the time of going to press as aviation authorities investigated incidents of varying severity in the course of their work.

However, the aviation department director general told Minivan News that in terms of events like a crash landing, this was believed to be the first case of such an incident occurring in 2011.



Back in December 2010, the Civil Aviation Department confirmed that a collision had occurred between a Maldivian Air Taxi seaplane and another aircraft at Male’ International Airport that resulted in no injuries or major damage being recorded.

Authorities said at the time that investigators had found the collision to be a minor accident involving the wingtip of an aircraft colliding with another craft, an event which was not seen as “a major safety concern” for future operations.

Good to hear that both pilots made it out safe and sound. Wondering what they were practicing, if I had to guess, it looks like maybe a flapless landing?

Was it a hard Landing or Fatigue caused by corrosion from all them landings in the salt water ?

[seniorpumpkin]

what T.O. operator using cap floats trains the flap less landing these days?

I can't speak for many other operators, but Westcoast Air for sure does. Even co-pilots are trained for it.