Air Canada Interviews

[yycflyguy]

They are always respectful to current employment commitments and try not to "pillage" employees from one operator. Calls have been made to CPs/HR departments so as not to disrupt their business. Seniority is everything at AC so the only person you are hurting by delaying your course is yourself. They will respect your requirement to give 2 weeks notice or complete a contract (within reason).

[thunderbolt]

i had a interview 6 weeks ago and have not got a PFO or a Medical? i have another job offer that has a huge bond so should i hold out for AC or take the job?

[No Conflict]

Anyone have any info on the medical? Standard eye-pee-ear or in depth with blood work and such?

thanks!

[FL020]

pee test, blood tests, ecg, blood press, hearing test, Lung capacity test, physical, eye tests as well.

[hnl]

i had a interview 6 weeks ago and have not got a PFO or a Medical? i have another job offer that has a huge bond so should i hold out for AC or take the job?

Huge bonds are disgusting. That particular company should be boycotted just on principal.

[beech girl]

For the ones that had an interview during the 2 last weeks, anyone got called for a medical yet?

Best luck to all

BG

[Wheels]

What's the difference between a company that starts you out at respectable wage but requires that you sign a training bond so that you don't pocket the PPC and leave..... and a company that doesn't make you sign but starts you out at a ridiculously low wage for two years?
Everyone says that AC doesn't require a training bond but they do.
Instead of making you sign a promissory note they just go ahead and deduct it from your pay check for the first two years. Am I wrong?

[yycflyguy]

Everyone says that AC doesn't require a training bond but they do.
Instead of making you sign a promissory note they just go ahead and deduct it from your pay check for the first two years. Am I wrong?

Correct.

I would just add that culpability on AC new hire pay be shared with ACPA as they negotiate and approve how salary is to be distributed.

The "other" hidden training bond with AC is how pilots are married to their DB pension without portability.

[HuD 91gt]

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[Joint-venture]

FYI Interviewed late June. Contacted for a medical 2.5 weeks later. Called last week for a course August 22nd. Super stoked! Anyone else get a call?

[The Raven]

FYI Interviewed late June. Contacted for a medical 2.5 weeks later. Called last week for a course August 22nd. Super stoked! Anyone else get a call?

Welcome...Have fun on the course. It looks like your options will be Embraer FO or B777 RP. All based in YYZ. Subject to change of course.

By the way, what is your background? How many hours, university, college, etc?

[FLYaJET]

Anyone interview at the end of July get a call for medical yet?

[mcrepitz]

FLYaJET, I also interviewed late July, no call for a medical yet.

beech girl, anything on your side yet?

Any other contributions appreciated!

[beech girl]

FYI interviewed mid July and got the call Friday for a medical next week.

BG

[HuD 91gt]

Anyone have any idea on the next few GS dates? I heard one starts the 22nd, and 28th. Anything tentative in September yet?

[Prospect]

I got a "yes" call 8 business days after my interview. Apparently I was an outlier considering the long wait time. Not sure why it was so quick.

[Heater]

Well Prospect, I think you got it because you did very well during the interview and testing! Congrats!

For the rest of us, still hoping all works out. I have been waiting for 2 weeks now, but still think there is chance.

BG, good to hear you got the medical,

Good luck everybody,

Heater

[Fanblade]

I got a "yes" call 8 business days after my interview. Apparently I was an outlier considering the long wait time. Not sure why it was so quick.

Ladies and Gentlemen talk to this person and people like him or her. I bet you will find that in most cases they just went in and did it sort of speak. They were just themselves and didn't try to out think anything. Close Prospect?

This is how the system works.

-You go through the process and get scored.
-If you score below the last person in the pool? You get the immediate please try again later.
-If you score within the pool? You take your spot according to your score. That could be at the top, middle or bottom.
-Ground schools are made up of the top scoring applicants in the pool. They are not made up from how long an applicant is in the pool.
-If the pool gets over a specific size the bottom person gets kicked out. This is the late please try again later letter.

-So if you get a quick Ground school? You scored high and went to the front of the pack.

WHEN YOU RUN INTO THESE INDIVIDUALS------TALK TO THEM

If you get PFO'd? Try again. During the last hiring the failure rate on the first attempt was well in excess of 50%. Second attempts were much higher.

[groundtoflightdeck]

Looks like a Sept 25th course planned too.

[Oleo 4]

how many candidates in a pit course or a groundschool?

[Takeoff OK]

If you get PFO'd? Try again. During the last hiring the failure rate on the first attempt was well in excess of 50%. Second attempts were much higher.

What a colossal waste of time and money for everyone involved.

[Fanblade]

If you get PFO'd? Try again. During the last hiring the failure rate on the first attempt was well in excess of 50%. Second attempts were much higher.

What a colossal waste of time and money for everyone involved.

I agree with you but hey they didn't call me to ask for my opinion.

Just mentioning it because I have seen really good people rejected on attempt number one. Some took it personally and never reapplied. A shame.

[PC12flyer]

Just interviewed, how often does the hiring board meet to assess files for your score into the pool.

[Takeoff OK]

If you get PFO'd? Try again. During the last hiring the failure rate on the first attempt was well in excess of 50%. Second attempts were much higher.

What a colossal waste of time and money for everyone involved.

I agree with you but hey they didn't call me to ask for my opinion.

Just mentioning it because I have seen really good people rejected on attempt number one. Some took it personally and never reapplied. A shame.

Yeah, I got where you were coming from, and I think it's valuable info for those out there that may have been rebuffed on the first try. It just makes me wonder as to the validity of their screening process if they're accepting such a high number of people on their second attempt. It's like giving someone an award for memorizing the test. I'm not sure you would see that with any other major corporation.

[sepia]

I think that an alarmingly high percentage of people show up at their first interview without the slightest clue of what is about to transpire. This isn't like any other interview they've ever done before. They're not going to joke with the new CP about how they watched their buddy puke off a bridge, or talk about fishing stories. They're not going to be asked what the maximum take off weight was for the Navajo, or how many spars the 1900 has. They show up without a clue of how a behavioural interview works, or how to construct an answer that will score optimum points. One friend who got turned down who answered "what do you consider your biggest weakness?" with, "I hate losing at golf". Anyone even slightly conversant with behavioural interviews will tell you that despite being a funny answer, will score a 1 if they're lucky. In such a tight field, scoring a 1 where a fellow interviewee scores a 4 or 5 can be the difference between a letter and a phone call.

Many of these same people also have no idea what the psych test is looking for. They see questions like "have you ever lied?, "have you ever abused alcohol?", "have you ever broken the law?", and think that only a fool would answer yes to them. They fail to realize that by lying on the psych test they're sewering any hope they had of squeeking through after their botched interview.

I think that a lot of the "good" people out there take the PFO as something to learn from. They analyse what went wrong, and go about correcting these mistakes. They show up at their second interview understanding how to answer the questions correctly, they show up with honest answers to the psych test. It's a credit to Air Canada's hiring policy (and there's not many pros for the system), that they do allow people to have more than one interview.