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Snagmaster E · Post by **Snagmaster E** » Tue Apr 26, 2005 3:45 pm

Sennheiser HME-800 (or is it 600?). Had them for a few and haven't had any problems at all. Only think is I'd suggest getting the gel ear seals as soon as possible.

Downside is that the stereo/mono switch is behind the ear cup, so youhave to take it off in order to switch. Bad local for it.

I've tried lightspeed - friggin vice grips in my opinion.

scm · Post by **scm** » Tue Apr 26, 2005 4:31 pm

twotterdriver wrote:
.... Get a pain right on top of my head after 15 minutes

it is probably a unique problem. i am bald and don't feel any pressure.

i would not mind if the bose had more clamping pressure though..probably would help when wearing glasses.

cloudrunner · Post by **cloudrunner** » Tue Apr 26, 2005 5:32 pm

Dog wrote:I have dc h10-13xl. My only complaint is that I can't find a good rechagable 9V. Anyone have a sugestion? I use a NmHi and I only get 5-6 hours out of it. The regular 9V laster 25-30...
I love it: comfy and quiet.

Go to your local avionics shop and ask him to give you any time-x'ed ELT batteries. They are 9 volts and will keep you going for 250-300 hours. Just need to stop at Radio shack and get the 30 cent, 9 volt connector and wire it up.

ei ei owe · Post by **ei ei owe** » Tue Apr 26, 2005 7:54 pm

Peltor 7004. Really light and cuts out alot of noise.

They're all I need for now and the price was right.

Pugster · Post by **Pugster** » Tue Apr 26, 2005 8:05 pm

cloudrunner wrote:
Go to your local avionics shop and ask him to give you any time-x'ed ELT batteries. They are 9 volts and will keep you going for 250-300 hours. Just need to stop at Radio shack and get the 30 cent, 9 volt connector and wire it up.

Can you give me anymore information on this setup? Do you have to "rig" a battery pack outside of the normal one - I've never seen an ELT battery outside of the box itself - how large is it?

I love the idea though - I've got a Flightcom Denali ANR and usually get about 30 hours - it would be nice to even double that figure!

No Conflict · Post by **No Conflict** » Wed Apr 27, 2005 6:58 am

cloudrunner wrote:
Dog wrote:I have dc h10-13xl. My only complaint is that I can't find a good rechagable 9V. Anyone have a sugestion? I use a NmHi and I only get 5-6 hours out of it. The regular 9V laster 25-30...
I love it: comfy and quiet.
Go to your local avionics shop and ask him to give you any time-x'ed ELT batteries. They are 9 volts and will keep you going for 250-300 hours. Just need to stop at Radio shack and get the 30 cent, 9 volt connector and wire it up.

I didn't think the ELT battery lasted that long when it was "on".. Hmmm... now just gotta figure out if it'll fit in the little DC ANR battery box!

Dog · Post by **Dog** » Wed Apr 27, 2005 8:15 am

cloudrunner wrote:
Dog wrote:I have dc h10-13xl. My only complaint is that I can't find a good rechagable 9V. Anyone have a sugestion? I use a NmHi and I only get 5-6 hours out of it. The regular 9V laster 25-30...
I love it: comfy and quiet.
Go to your local avionics shop and ask him to give you any time-x'ed ELT batteries. They are 9 volts and will keep you going for 250-300 hours. Just need to stop at Radio shack and get the 30 cent, 9 volt connector and wire it up.

Thanks ! I'll be trying that one.

cloudrunner · Post by **cloudrunner** » Wed Apr 27, 2005 11:02 am

The ELT batteries that I used were simply 6 D-Cells enclosed in a form-fitting plastic case, with two wires sticking out.(can't remember the name, red in colour) You just have to snip the connector for the ELT off, and attach the 9-volt connector, the ones I had needed to be "red-to-black and black to red" to work. (the battery pack is rather large so leave yourself enough wire to stash it in a side pocket or somewhere out of the way). Then just click the two ends together and ...voila ! (I just left the bottom cover off of the DC battery pack)
In 780 hours of flying over 2 seasons, I almost went through 3 of these packs. Didn't cost me a dime.

Dog · Post by **Dog** » Sun May 01, 2005 9:27 am

I just did the ELT battery mod. Just like cloudrunner said: I went to the local ELT shop and the guy was like "please take all my batteries". I have a box of all differnt colors and sizes. Lots of 9v packs (six cells) ranging from AAs to D's. I'm trying out the Cs first. I'll let you guys know how long they last. I'm in and out of different planes or I'd just hook the monster up an park it under the seat.
Email me if you want pictures.
Cheers

DEFPOTEC · Post by **DEFPOTEC** » Sun May 01, 2005 4:11 pm

whatever's in the plane

LostinRotation · Post by **LostinRotation** » Sun May 01, 2005 5:36 pm

DC H-10 13.4

Had them since my days in air cadets.

When I went to buy them I asked alot of questions. Then I was asked a good one in return. " Is this going to be a hobby or do you want to make this a career choice ? " After I told the sales person I wanted to pursue aviation he reccomended the DC's

Saved for over 5 months. The fact they've lasted me this long without a single problem tells me I made a good choice and you sometimes "get what you pay for"

-=0=LIR=0=-

125 · Post by **125** » Wed May 04, 2005 11:48 am

Vmo, I switched from H10-13.4's to the Bose X, and I'll never go back.

Check out this topic. There's a link to hearing loss in pilots.

http://www.avcanada.ca/forums2/viewtopic.php?t=7431

Doc · Post by **Doc** » Wed May 04, 2005 1:54 pm

I use a ten year old DC 10-40, with up to date head pad and newer gell ear pads. My 10-30 died MANY years ago when I backed over it with the car. Go figure. Would like to upgrade to a 10-13.4, I've heard good things about them. Want to try a Bose X, but I would have to take out a second mortgage! How much $$$$ are these things??
Cheers

125 · Post by **125** » Wed May 04, 2005 5:00 pm

Doc: I saw some Bose X's at Aviation World in YVR last week, going for $1195 or so. I know it's pricey... but in my opinion the're worth it.

I urge everyone to consider using an ANR (active noise reduction) headset weather it be Bose, David Clark, or any other type. If you can try to test the different models on a typical day in your aircraft to see which model feels best on your head. (I know Bose offers a 30 day trial period)

One of the interesting things I discovered when I made the switch from my 13.4's and Telex 750's to the Bose 10X, was I ended up turning all my radio volumes down by about 50%, as they didn't have to be loud to overcome the engine/cockpit noise. (a lower signal to noise ratio) Also HF communications, and understanding international ATC became alot easier.

Type "pilot hearing loss" into Google, or your favorite search engine. Once you sift through the garbage, you'll find quite a few interesting articles. Awarness of this problem is just starting to come into the light. And for those jet pilots out there that don't think they fly in a loud cockpit, the frequencies put out by those seemingly "quiet" turbofans can be just as damaging as spending a day behind, or between radials and turboprops. Please trust me on this one folks. As pilots maintaining good hearing is important not only in our careers, but life in general! (we'll save eyesight, and that extra 20lbs for another thread

)

DHQ · Post by **DHQ** » Wed May 04, 2005 9:16 pm

I've got the DC 13.4 and just bought an aftermarket ANR kit which I will install tomorrow. Heard good things about it, so hopefully this kit works nicely.

Tried the Bose X, nice headset, really comfortable but it feels like you don't have as good of a seal around your ears. Not sure if that actually affects noise coming in or not. Pad for the top of the head was a little weak too, in my opinion.

cloudrunner · Post by **cloudrunner** » Thu May 05, 2005 4:29 am

I'd been using the DC H10-13X for several years in a Beaver which seemed to work quite nicely, aside from the occasional "popping" which occurs when you don't get a perfect seal. Did a great job of bringing the "growl" down to dull "humm". Using the Bose X in a T206H now, which is outstanding. Not as much squeeze as the DC's but seems to make no difference at all. In fact, even with sunglasses breaking the seal, the noise cancelling is stellar. Would have to recommend the Bose if you can make it happen.

moe · Post by **moe** » Thu May 05, 2005 7:02 am

nothin but bose.

Ryan Coke · Post by **Ryan Coke** » Thu May 05, 2005 7:46 am

125 wrote: And for those jet pilots out there that don't think they fly in a loud cockpit, the frequencies put out by those seemingly "quiet" turbofans can be just as damaging as spending a day behind, or between radials and turboprops. Please trust me on this one folks. As pilots maintaining good hearing is important not only in our careers, but life in general! (we'll save eyesight, and that extra 20lbs for another thread )

I couldn't agree more. I fly with alot of guys that came off of a turboprop onto a jet and all think it's so quiet, so they all leave an earpiece off one side (or buy the one ear models) and yell across a cockpit. Meanwhile we all slowly go deaf in one ear. Drives me nuts. It's all company culture---I used to fly an even quieter airplane, and everyone used the intercom, and many used noise cancelling versions as well. So much more comfortable, less fatiguing, better and easier ATC communications, and, oh yeah, it preserved our hearing.

The Dude · Post by **The Dude** » Thu May 05, 2005 1:12 pm

DC 13.4 works well for me. Only issue for me is that noise levels are noticeable higher with glasses on. Are there any headsets that are designed to work better with glasses on?

Doc · Post by **Doc** » Fri May 06, 2005 6:24 am

Had a look at a Bose X in the 'peg. WAY too many $$$, there's NO way that thing would stand up like a DC. Maybe if you fly a "gentle" type of op, but not for us bush rats.
The Dude....Do you have the gell seals on your 13.4? That's a trick when buying a headset...try it on with glasses. Wonder if "Bubbles" uses a DC?

The Dude · Post by **The Dude** » Fri May 06, 2005 10:56 am

Doc, I've got the gel seals but the frames do break the seal. Maybe I should get smaller frames, what do you think?

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