Booze in the cockpit

CClub · Post by **CClub** » Fri May 06, 2005 2:18 pm

I was just sent an e-mail from a non-aviation friend. It mentions that on their last flight from Point A to Point B they observed the flight attendants taking wine and beer into the cockpit. I hope this isn't SOP for any airline. But i'm hoping there is a perfectly valid reason for why booze was brough to the cock-pit.

Any suggestions?

I left out actual cities as it would be very obvious as to which airline.

frog · Post by **frog** » Fri May 06, 2005 2:22 pm

If there is 8 hours between take-off and landing, no problem!

Tango01 · Post by **Tango01** » Fri May 06, 2005 2:25 pm

How about a reality check. Pilots drink and smoke. Yes, even when they fly.

yycflyguy · Post by **yycflyguy** » Fri May 06, 2005 3:04 pm

Air France still permits their crew to have one glass of wine with their meal.... Mexicana permits their pilots a bottle of Mezcal

TTJJ · Post by **TTJJ** » Fri May 06, 2005 4:06 pm

VERY probably, they were stocking up for the "happy hour" in someone's room on the overnight.

Standard airline stuff, it just doesn't get advertised much for obvious reasons.

CClub · Post by **CClub** » Fri May 06, 2005 4:29 pm

TJ wrote:VERY probably, they were stocking up for the "happy hour" in someone's room on the overnight.

Standard airline stuff, it just doesn't get advertised much for obvious reasons.

That's what I was assuming.

frog · Post by **frog** » Fri May 06, 2005 4:43 pm

I am sorry but I really don't think that Air France crew can drink even a glass of wine when on duty. The non-drinking rule is pretty international.
I remember studying my recreationnal permit in France, and the 8 hours rule applied.

yycflyguy · Post by **yycflyguy** » Fri May 06, 2005 5:55 pm

frog wrote:I am sorry but I really don't think that Air France crew can drink even a glass of wine when on duty. The non-drinking rule is pretty international.
I remember studying my recreationnal permit in France, and the 8 hours rule applied.

....but what about Mexicanas bottle of Mezcal? Arriba las faldas!!!

frog · Post by **frog** » Fri May 06, 2005 6:01 pm

Entonces dos bottellas !

xsbank · Post by **xsbank** » Fri May 06, 2005 7:59 pm

On AC, taking booze off the a/c by crew is grounds for dismissal.

Right Seat Captain · Post by **Right Seat Captain** » Fri May 06, 2005 8:19 pm

Considering the destination and point of departure would give away the airline, I doubt it's AC.

alpha speed · Post by **alpha speed** » Fri May 06, 2005 8:26 pm

I had been told that years ago Air France Pilots were served a glass of wine with their meal.
Now about the booze in the flight deck issue here.
I have witnessed front end and back end purchase a couple of drinks for the hotel. This was usually the case if they were arriving late. Also the incharge would always keep the booze till everyone was off the plane.

ahramin · Post by **ahramin** » Fri May 06, 2005 9:08 pm

Many, many years ago when Air France pilots were told they couldn't have wine with thier meals anymore they were very unhappy, but i don't think many of them quit because of it.

Panama Jack · Post by **Panama Jack** » Sat May 07, 2005 7:13 am

CClub wrote:I left out actual cities as it would be very obvious as to which airline.

Saudia?

Yoyoma · Post by **Yoyoma** » Sat May 07, 2005 7:27 am

You should always report suspicous behaviour to TC...hum hum...

No but seriously,

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frog · Post by **frog** » Sat May 07, 2005 8:24 am

ahramin wrote:Many, many years ago when Air France pilots were told they couldn't have wine with thier meals anymore they were very unhappy, but i don't think many of them quit because of it.

I know french people are supposed to brush their teeth with a glass of wine, but for this matter it is just like Canada, pilots don't drink on duty. If they do they are fired

Rudy · Post by **Rudy** » Sat May 07, 2005 10:19 am

Swiss Air SOP's state each crew member is allowed to bring one St. Bernard
with keg of brandy on long haul flights:

rhumrunner · Post by **rhumrunner** » Sat May 07, 2005 7:37 pm

i fly best with a double in me...kindda sharpens the cross hair.

CLguy · Post by **CLguy** » Sun May 08, 2005 10:54 am

I know Cathay Pacific can drink in their cockpits during there shut downs and post flight checks. It is not uncommon for the flight crew to be sipping a glass of wine with the cockpit door open while saying goodbye to the deplaning passengers. Of course they are not allowed to do this at any North American destinations.

It is also common for Air Tanker Pilots in Europe and South America to have wine with their meals while on duty.

oldtimer · Post by **oldtimer** » Thu May 12, 2005 9:56 pm

Talking about booze n the cockpit I am reminded of a story-- or is one of the urban legends-- about a miserable old Captain who was always gruff and rude to the F/A's. One old gal who was about to retire after a distingushed career was on an out and back with this miserable old Captain, who had made crude remarks about her age. Seems like an FAA type was in the cockpit doing a ramp check when this old gal poured a real stiff one, came into the cockpit and said. "Here you are Captain, Your usual -- OH! Sorry, I did not realize you were busy." Captain spent weeks convincing everyone he did not have a drinking problem. Good story.

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