U.N. votes on Palestinian Statehood

[JakeYYZ]

Discuss...Good/Bad ............

[Expat]

Yoo bad they do not use Florida voting machines.

[Dash-Ate]

Kind of related, people had enough of their country being detroyed by the West:


US NATO Hands off Libya! Hands off Africa! Coalition marchers who were arrested by the police on Wednesday for unlawfully demonstrating against the invasion of Libya by western powers have been released from custody after being detained.

Members of the coalition were arrested for not abiding by a court injunction to postpone the demonstration till September 28, 2011.

Spokesman for the group, Sekou Mwanza Nkrumah, including a 70-year-old man and their other colleague demonstrators, was arrested at about 11am when they were matching towards the US Embassy in Accra to register their displeasure about the country’s participation in the invasion of Libya.

But the group believes their arrest by the police was a shameful act, especially on the birthday of Osagyefo Dr. Kwame Nkrumah, insisting that the Ghana Police Service had tinted its image by acting on the instructions of the U.S. Embassy.

‘What justifications does the US Embassy have for orchestrating the arrest of these Africans who were participating in a peaceful march that will benefit Africa’, asked Sekou.

Another member of the group, Lord Koranteng Hamah, who was also arrested, said they were not served with any court order until the time of the demonstration, adding that ‘the marching stopped, we did not proceed but they beat us and shoved us, we did not resist but we were manhandled.’

He said the inhumane action was nothing short of a demonstration of the explosive and ruthless actions of the imperialists to oppress and beat down Pan -African movement and African people.

‘When we went to seek audience with the Regional Commander of police, DCOP Rose Bio Atinga said the US Embassy was not happy with the situation’, he stated.

For this reason, leadership of the group noted with emphasis that the police service was not democratic enough since the action they took was ill motivated.

‘With further advice from our legal assistance, we will proceed to the human rights court for redress,’ it noted.

The police on the other hand, had earlier stated that the action they took was necessitated by the group’s refusal to oblige a court order which was granted by a Circuit Court Judge, Patience Mills Tetteh, which read, ‘The organization calling itself US/NATO Hands Off Libya and Hands Off Africa Coalition are hereby prohibited from demonstrating on September 21.’

http://globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=26758

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Will the vote enable the Palestinians to get more food and medicine past their friendly neighbours' blockade?

[Siddley Hawker]

Not to mention new stuff for the shopping mall.

http://www.tomgrossmedia.com/mideastdis ... 01127.html

[System Message]

As far as I know there is a state of Palestine. It is called Jordan.

[Inverted2]

http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/story/2011 ... inian.html



Look at this babbling fool and the pin he is wearing!

[azimuthaviation]

As far as I know there is a state of Palestine. It is called Jordan.

You obviously don't know much in that case.

[System Message]

Enlighten us.

[bmc]

Enlighten us.

Waste of time.

[azimuthaviation]

Enlighten us.

Waste of time.

Exactly

[bmc]

Nice to see Israel proceed with 1,000 new homes on stolen land.

Poor Israel.

[Spokes]

Will the vote enable the Palestinians to get more food and medicine past their friendly neighbours' blockade?

Not to mention all the weapons, rockets bomb making material etc...

[bmc]

Will the vote enable the Palestinians to get more food and medicine past their friendly neighbours' blockade?

Not to mention all the weapons, rockets bomb making material etc...

Why not? When their neighbor has no interest in peace.

I can't think of two peoples more made for and deserving of each other.

[bmc]

Let me see if I have this right. According to Harpo and Obama, the Palestinians should negotiate their statehood and a peace agreement, despite the PLO having done so in the past ( and recognizing Israel's right to exist), despite Israel's announcement to build 1,100 new homes on stolen land.

I'm sure the intelligent ones on this thread can enlighten me on it. While you're at it explain how Israel has any remote interest in Peace.

Let's the bombers have fun.

Ya gotta admit that 30 to 40 deaths a year from suicide bombings is a small price to pay for the land grab.

[photofly]

recognizing Israel's right to exist

The devil, as usual, is in the detail. They don't recognize it as a Jewish state which destroys any value such recognition would have. It's good for headlines but that's about it.

[robertsailor1]

Well with 40% of the Americans believing in Armageddon there are really lots of reasons to keep them fighting.

[System Message]

Waste of time.

You understand the middle East very well.

[iflyforpie]

I think Palestinian Statehood is an awesome idea.

Have a nation with sovereign borders, it's own flag, political leadership, armed forces, and seat in the UN. It will do a bunch of things.

-Get rid of Israel squatting on Palestinian land or retaliating militarily without solid international reaction.
-Make the State of Palestine solely responsible and accountable for any terrorist acts that originate from its territory.
-Finally give these refugees a homeland to call their own.

The problems will be:

-Israel's willingness to allow a neighbour so close so armed.
-Whether Palestine will blow it again like they did in 1948 trying to get a bigger piece of the pie.
-Jerusalem.

To be fair, Israel hasn't blown up Dome of the Rock and actually forbids its own Jewish citizens from going there. I think it would be better for Jerusalem to be an international city administered by the UN (yes, I read Sum of all Fears), but I highly doubt anybody would go for that. Israel won't give up the most important prize it has won, and the Palestinians would simply see it as a pro-Israel or Western UN meddling.



Not holding my breath though...

[Expat]

Well with 40% of the Americans believing in Armageddon there are really lots of reasons to keep them fighting.

I believe that if they were exposed to more balanced news, less Americans would so blindly support Israel.

[azimuthaviation]

Zionist/Jews and the rest of the west never shared the same ideals and when they align with each other as they are now in this unbholy alliance between Zionist Jews and Evangelical Christians will burn them both.

It was 100 years ago this week the European fascists started building concentration camps. And the Jews loved them, immigrating en masse to the new colony in Libya with their new found friend Mussolini. Hundreds of thousands of Muslims died in these camps, with the Jews happy to assist. It was hardly 20 years later that the same Jews found themselves in the same concentration camps.

Your friends who you think are your friends today may not be your friends tomorrow.

[photofly]

I think Palestinian Statehood is an awesome idea.... It will ... Get rid of Israel squatting on Palestinian land or retaliating militarily without solid international reaction.

Wouldn't the whole point be to make sure that Israel has no need for or reason to retaliate?

Unfortunately not enough people in Israel are sufficiently confident that creating a Palestinian state would satisfy the Palestinians - without removing Israel - to to want to risk it. "International reaction" will never bully Israeli citizens into feeling secure about setting up a new Arab neighbour. Only the Palestinians and the wider Arab world can do that.

[photofly]

It was hardly 20 years later that the same Jews found themselves in the same concentration camps.

I believe this shows a profound misunderstanding of the different ways people use the words "concentration camp".

[azimuthaviation]

It was hardly 20 years later that the same Jews found themselves in the same concentration camps.

I believe this shows a profound misunderstanding of the different ways people use the words "concentration camp".

Yes because dead Muslims are worth a lot less than dead jews, I stand corrected

[photofly]

Hundreds of thousands of Muslims died in these camps, with the Jews happy to assist.

I'd like to read some background on what you're referring to there. Can you pm me some links or something?

I'm not sure if your point was that the Nazi Holocaust was somehow excused or excusable because of a wrong "the Jews" (whoever they might be) had done in the past, but if that it what you were saying I don't accept it.