Taliban at YYZ ???

[Hiflyer2]

So I am driving on Derry Rd just north of the FEDEX complex off of rwy 23/05 at YYZ. I see this fellow displaying this picture on the back of his jeep! How does this make you feel? It kind of makes me think he is mocking our society, our soldiers, all the men and women that have been killed in Afganistan etc. Would an American or Canadian drive down the streets of a foreign country with a picture of the local war enemy on their car??

I think I will send this in to the Canadian National Security Hotline. Does anyone else feel strongly about something like this? The guy driving looked very similar to the fella carrying a weapon of some sort, on his back window.

I am over reacting?

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[Vickers vanguard]

I don't think that's a picture of a Taliban, it looks like an Indian Sikh....

[The People's Pilot]

He was a sikh extremist from the early eighties who was trying to liberate the state of Punjab from Indian oppression.

The Indian army killed him (and thousands of bystanders in the process) in 1984 and his death is what ultimately led to Indira Ghandi being killed as well as the subsequent Air India bombings.

I don't agree with making matyrs out of extremists, and placing that picture on a car is in my opinion silly, but it's basically the equivalent of having a picture of Che Guevara.

[Tim]

I am over reacting?

only insofar as not every person that wears a turban is in the taliban...

[crazy_aviator]

Theres a saying " its easier to take the boy out of the country than to take the country out of the boy. If i ( A canuck) retire in the Philippines , I FULLY intend to be a filipino FIRST and Canadian SECOND,,,,HARD thing to do i imagine. MOST immigrants in Canada are (" " ) First and Canadian second. Thats life ! Not right BUT thats the way it is!

[YOWza]

Yes, you are over-reacting. It's a free country...let it be.

[pizza__73]

Sooo, what does this have to do with flying again? Except to say you've never flown to India?

[Johnny#5]

They're free to put that on their vehicle...not a great idea, but they're free to do it nonetheless.

Whats the guy carrying?...is that a harpoon?....maybe he was also an amateur whaler.

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[Dash-Ate]

Haha omg a t...t..terrorist! So they do exist not just in the nightly 6pm Fearcast.



And this is why the USA is now sending troops into Uganda...better report yourself as a terrorist if you support his,


Fresh Uganda Oil Find ‘Africa’s Biggest’

By The Times

14 Jan 2009 "The Times" - -Heritage Oil announced details of a large oil discovery in Uganda yesterday, which the company claimed could be the largest onshore discovery in sub-Saharan Africa.

Heritage said that its latest discovery – Giraffe1 – in the Lake Albert region, could total at least 400 million barrels of oil.

However, Paul Atherton, chief financial officer, told The Times that the wider field it was developing, dubbed Buffalo-Giraffe, had several “billions of barrels of oil in place”, although it was unclear how much of this would be recoverable.

He said that the field, which is 9,000 square kilometers in size – or six times the size of Greater London – was unquestionably the largest onshore discovery made in sub-Saharan Africa in at least 20 years, possibly ever.

Mr Atherton said that of the 18 wells the company had drilled in the basin so far, all had produced oil. “Clearly the entire basin is full of oil,” he said. “It’s a world-class discovery, the most exciting new basin in Africa in decades.”

Previously, the largest onshore fields discovered in sub-Saharan Africa were at Rabi-Kounga in Gabon, where 900 million barrels were found in 1985, and at Kome in Chad, where 485 million barrels were found in 1977.

Mr Atherton said that it would take at least another three years to start commercial production. The crude could be exported by road or rail, he said, but analysts believe that the most practical solution would be to build an 806-mile pipeline to take it to Kampala, Uganda’s capital, and then the Kenyan coast. The pipeline would need to be heated and designed to traverse swampy and mountainous land. It would cost an estimated $1.5 billion (£1 billion) to complete.

Heritage and its partner Tullow Oil, which also has a 50 per cent equity stake in the project, would need to demonstrate that the field could produce at least 400 million barrels of oil to justify the cost of building such a pipeline. Richard Griffith, an Evolution Securities analyst, said the latest discovery “thrashed” this commerciality threshold.

See Also - Uganda : Pressure Mounts To Make Public Oil Agreements:Uganda's oil discovery is already attracting major players like Italian oil giant Eni Spa, U.S. Exxon Mobil, France's Total and of recent the China National Offshore Oil Company

[nightbird]

Theres a saying " its easier to take the boy out of the country than to take the country out of the boy. If i ( A canuck) retire in the Philippines , I FULLY intend to be a filipino FIRST and Canadian SECOND,,,,HARD thing to do i imagine. MOST immigrants in Canada are (" " ) First and Canadian second. Thats life ! Not right BUT thats the way it is!

Try it out and let me know how you do. What your asking its almost impossible, after 22 years of living in my home country and only 4 living here there's no way I'm gonna feel canadian, I just happen to live in Canada and that's it.

[longjon]

You actually thought the picture in that vehicle was an Afgan Taliban??

I'd suggest you travel outside of the province of ON or even Canada, see the world, or maybe read a newspaper, jeez I find it hard to believe an adult would actually think that.

[Inverted2]

You actually thought the picture in that vehicle was an Afgan Taliban??

I'd suggest you travel outside of the province of ON or even Canada, see the world, or maybe read a newspaper, jeez I find it hard to believe an adult would actually think that.

I think it looks more like one of the guys at the airport that goes around picking up all the Smart Cart baggage carts than a Taliban in my opinion.

[bmc]

You actually thought the picture in that vehicle was an Afgan Taliban??

I'd suggest you travel outside of the province of ON or even Canada, see the world, or maybe read a newspaper, jeez I find it hard to believe an adult would actually think that.

Ya but, he was wearing one of those thingies on his head. Don't all terrorists where a thingy?

[bmc]

Theres a saying " its easier to take the boy out of the country than to take the country out of the boy. If i ( A canuck) retire in the Philippines , I FULLY intend to be a filipino FIRST and Canadian SECOND,,,,HARD thing to do i imagine. MOST immigrants in Canada are (" " ) First and Canadian second. Thats life ! Not right BUT thats the way it is!

As noble as that is, when you see a Somali refugee walking in your neighborhood, knowing they have Canadian passports, do you consider them to be Canadian? I sincerely hope that you are opening your door to welcome these people into your home to make them feel like true Canadians that are welcomed there.

I'm a Canadian living in Switzerland. I continually hear from my Swiss friends that the problem with their immigrants is that they don't integrate and make themselves Swiss. When I ask, as an immigrant, what concrete steps I have to take to be considered integrated, they are at a loss of words.

Seeing that you have given this some thought, tell me what MOST immigrants need to do to become "Canadian", whatever that means. I ask this not to engage in an argument, but because I am truly interested to know what has to be done. Should they:

1. Shop at the local stores
2. Send their kids to local schools
3. Dress like you do
4. Drop their language in public
5. Go to your church

What efforts have you, personally, made to help immigrants become more like you, a Canadian?

Your arguments are not unique. I've heard them in all four countries that I've lived in. None of my local friends seem to have thought it through to giving concrete answers to my questions.

Over time, I have concluded that it really boils down to the following: Most immigrants look different, sound different and dress different and don't belong here.

Am I off base?

Btw... both my Swiss and French friends say I fit in well. I suspect it's because I'm white and catholic

[Nark]

bmc

Or is it that you don't against the grain of Swiss society, that you fit in?

[bmc]

bmc

Or is it that you don't against the grain of Swiss society, that you fit in?

What do you mean?

[cdnpilot77]

bmc

Or is it that you don't against the grain of Swiss society, that you fit in?

What do you mean?

"with the grain, Fitting in"


Judging by the photo you sent me, I would say you are fitting in just fine

[bmc]

cdnpilot.....you're a twisted wreck, mate.

[Nark]

I have a very good feeling that once you arrived in the land of Clocks and Chocolate, you were respectful of your new surroundings.

I'm also willing to bet you took the time to learn the customs and courtesies of Switzerland.

My point is, not all those who come here do the same, be it Canada or America.

[bmc]

Clear

I did, and truly love the country. As with anywhere, there are good things and less than good things. But, out of respect for the locals, I do speak French with them all the time. Even when they answer me in broken English. It's their country. It's their language, at least in this part.

I have a good buddy and work colleague who supports the far far right wing party. Since I have no stake in national politics, I can listen dispassionately to his rants about Muslims, blacks, Asians, Africans. The arguments presented are the same as we hear in Canada. I have fun with these arguments because I'm an immigrant. I share a hell of lot with every taxi drive in Toronto. I came from a different country and I want to stay.

What I also share with those immigrants is the comfort found in surrounding yourself with people that understand you and where you came from. Our closest friends are, you got it, Canadians and Americans. We share customs, popular culture and history. I now understand why the Indian community in Surrey hangs out together. It's comfortable.

On that basis, I question the notion of integration. What does it mean? What does one have to do to be considered integrated?

This thread should be moved to the Water Closet.

[av8tor_assrope]

You actually thought the picture in that vehicle was an Afgan Taliban??

I'd suggest you travel outside of the province of ON or even Canada, see the world, or maybe read a newspaper, jeez I find it hard to believe an adult would actually think that.

You'd be surprised. I've actually met people that think Canada is in Iraq or that Toronto is the Capital of Canada. Anyways it's Canada, put whatever you want on your car......but I'd like to see that Jeep drive through the state of Texas with that sticker.

[KK7]

Canadians love to tout their multicultural society, then turn around and insist that immigrants be assimilated. Not saying one is better than the other, but we can't do both. So which one is it?

[niss]

I thought immigrating to this country and forcing your way of life on the indigenous population was the most Canadian thing we could do. Shouldn't we encourage the newcomers to force us onto reserves if we want to maintain our culture and have them do as they wish on the rest of the land?

Perhaps they could take us away from our families to schools where they teach us about Islam or the Sikh religion and beat us for speaking English or French.

The joke will be on them though when another civilization comes and does the same to them, then they'll be pissed about this new group of people refusing to assimilate to Canada.

My history book isn't broken is it?

[MZUNGO]

the difference between Canada and Switzerland is, the Swiss have had thier culture for over a thousand years, whether it was called switzerland back then or not.
the Canadain population (except for the natives) is based on immigration. any country outside the americas and Australia has has a distinct culture and identity for a very long time. Why should the Swiss have the same immigration policies as us? I don't think they ever colonized another country like Britain, so there should be no people from those colonized countries with rights to live there.

IMO they should be asking immigrants to assimilate or gtfo.